For example: I started buying Focus Lumber in 22nd Aug. last year after I saw its 2nd quarter announcement of 7.80 sen per share. Its first quarter EPS was 3.22 sen. It was trading between Rm 1.40 –Rm 1.60 per share. I continue to buy aggressively and as the price went up higher, I could borrow more to continue buying because my collateral value has increased.
Lying through his teeth again. He won't get margin call if he bought them at lower price. So I agree with Timetokoon that he bought them at very high price. Serve you right to get margin calls. Only God knows how many vicitms burn by his recommendation.
Posted by murali > Feb 18, 2016 12:05 PM | Report Abuse
Aiyo...now u only know meh...koon koon bought FLB ard 1.40-1.60 n only come to promote when price was ard rm2.40+...after price increased more than 50%
You fellows cannot make money still want to criticize people.
Just like KYY says.....you all want to remain poor the rest of your life meh?
People who open their eyes open their minds can always find things to learn, things to improve.....close minded cannot change one day become dinosaurs.
I have trading accounts with all the financial institutions in Malaysia and my loan limit exceeds Rm 100 million. I have always been using the loan to nearly the approved limits. As a result, I have margin call in the recent market down turn.
Stupid idiots are reserved for Ah Koon critics. Only victims get his appreciation like JT and Desa.
Posted by murali > Feb 18, 2016 12:52 PM | Report Abuse
Again,koon koon is selling when he recommended u all to buy...he doesnt need yr support but if u supported him he wouldnt say thank you to you..infact he may even teased u n call u stupid idiots...well i think he does have a point...
this article is misleading. how can you get a margin call when the stock is making money? he deliberately chose not to mention the margin call was for which losing stock in his account. selling something else to pay for another does not constitute an 'advantage' or profit.
Posted by stockraider > Feb 18, 2016 01:32 PM | Report Abuse X
Raider is a true practioner of Graham margin of safety.
The category of type of margin of safety can be classified as follows;
1) Big discount of share price to the Asset valuation, NTA, replacement cost, force sale value or even sometime to the company cash share holding and turnaround situation.
2. substantial high sustainable dividend yield against benchmark of other return
3. sustainable high profit relative to low share price resulting it low Pe compare with higher benchmark pe.
4. Sustainable high growth v the investment cost
5. Using Discounted cashflow giving a high NPV v the share price.
Basing above more than 50% of raider's margin of safety is using category 1.
Raider has start increasing investment using category 2 to 5 recently. Raider like to admit...why substantial category 1 is bcos it is easy to use and easy to find loh....!!
BUT INVESTOR MUST BE CAUTION OF 2 RISK...B4 U INVEST INTO MARGIN OF SAFETY STOCK.
RISK 1- VERY HIGH BORROWING RISK 2- POOR CORPORATE GOVERNANCE
RAIDER has been using Margin for many many years.....!! And Kena margin call few times....but always survive mah...!! Like Mr Koon says....if did not use Margin, Raider would make less loh...!!
Only late 2015 and early 2015 Raider had payoff all the margin...now net cash loh....!!
Btw...u can still get a margin call from the bank...when ur stock is making monies!!..bcos u may fully use your limit...or bank may capped your share value or when bank change some of the share valuation from marginable to non - marginable loh...!!
I know many ppl dont like KYY, i'm nature, but for FLbhd i have comment. i bought Flbhd mid of nov, pricing 2.5. my reason is because 1. Flbhd giving >50% dividend from net profit yearly. (mean they really have the money) 2. low debt ratio and cash rich (i assure you, it is very hard for company to have cash rich and low debt, at least my company are not) 3. improve in gross profit margin (mean better efficiency production, lower waste) 4. gain good position for USD rise.(4-4.2) 5. revenue increase yearly 6. 2015 Q1,Q2,Q3 EPS= 20.3cent, if Q4 eps=4 (let say not taken USD as advantage), the PE will around 10.5, which i think is reasonable. if Q4 eps=8 (take USD as advantage), PE will be around 9. (of cause no dividend expected in Q4)
the first 3 item are about quality of management, the last 3 item are catalyst for the recent boom.
of cause after DEC2015, the price start to drop, it comes to 2.39, i bought another round, 2.1, i bought another round. average fall around 2.36. in fact i plan to buy at 1.8 and 1.4 if it goes that low. my personal target price is 3 if the USD remain, of cause there will be different story if eps not meet.
so, i think KYY say "worth to buy" he mean "the price are reasonable for the next few quarter" in fact if you buy at 2.8 and out at 3.0, you still earn 7%.
at the end, investment are very subjected, if you just follow blindly, i assure you feel pressure, anxiety, cheated, unhappy all the time. learn to enjoy it. :)
Well said Murali. Lots of con man. No free lunch. Do your own homework. I'm sure now KYY buying others counters. He will tell when he wants to throw later.
What a good excuse for pocketing profit from the share market. Uncle meant ' In fact, I did't want to dispose the share since the company is still making good profit. I was very reluctant to sell but the margin call actually forced me to laugh all the way to the bank.'.
Desa, Make few k only kah? Go visit uncle k before chap Goh meh, if uncle's mood is good you can get ang pow bigger than the few k you gained over the last few days. After all, uncle k is keen to befriend you.
Oh my oh my.... I am so shocked... I way past that stage already... Oh my god... I didn't realize your foundation is so shallow... Oh my god.... Oh my god.... I think my profit last year is 10 times your existing capital... I am speechless....
Posted by Desa20201956 > Feb 18, 2016 09:19 PM | Report Abuse
One day I will have my millions. Rich like Koon.
Icon8888 > Feb 18, 2016 09:13 PM | Report Abuse
U don't have millions kah ? That is very small... LOL
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Posted by timetokoon > 2016-02-18 12:00 | Report Abuse
Ah Koon change story again. It was not last year. Can check my record. Ah Koon bought Flbhd at 2.44 Keep changing goal post.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/53120.jsp
For example: I started buying Focus Lumber in 22nd Aug. last year after I saw its 2nd quarter announcement of 7.80 sen per share. Its first quarter EPS was 3.22 sen. It was trading between Rm 1.40 –Rm 1.60 per share. I continue to buy aggressively and as the price went up higher, I could borrow more to continue buying because my collateral value has increased.