Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:01 | Report Abuse

So yr last year 15% return gone n becomes -1% as at now..

Posted by GreatWarrants > 2018-04-04 17:03 | Report Abuse

Margin calls coming in. Break below 1800 points tomorrow.

Posted by Up_down > 2018-04-04 17:15 | Report Abuse

It seems mid cap prices crashing.....too many options now. @@

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-04-04 17:18 | Report Abuse

Actually every event will eventually rebound.
Great depression -> Asian Financial crisis -> 911 -> 2008 subprime -> Oil crash -> Brexit -> Trump won. lol

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 17:29 | Report Abuse

Eh pls. Paper loss is more than that! :)

Cause 17% (actually) drop you need 18.3% to gain back. Not to mention i got much more money in the market now than what i started with last year.

CharlesT So yr last year 15% return gone n becomes -1% as at now..
04/04/2018 17:01

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 17:30 | Report Abuse

And every event, people think wont rebound.

UnicornP Actually every event will eventually rebound.
Great depression -> Asian Financial crisis -> 911 -> 2008 subprime -> Oil crash -> Brexit -> Trump won. lol
04/04/2018 17:18

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:52 | Report Abuse

Eventually everything will rebound...provided u survive thru first

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:52 | Report Abuse

For those heavily in margin will kena 9966...dont play play...

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:53 | Report Abuse

Dejavu to 2008 n 1998...

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 17:54 | Report Abuse

CharlesT, im thinking of going into margin if my paper loss exceed 35% and i bolui.

Max margin limit is 50%

You got more experience in market than me. Safe enough boh?

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:55 | Report Abuse

Timing is everything...so fast out of cash oredi..

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 17:56 | Report Abuse

Use margin for good counters with consistent div at great discounts

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 17:56 | Report Abuse

Haha i dont time market. And my name not warren buffet.

Only got 8% cash now =(

Hopefully this drop will drop summore and last longer.

Posted by CharlesT > 2018-04-04 18:00 | Report Abuse

Bro icon8888 dont busy cooking seacucumber n waiting for durian runtuh...do keep us posted when the time is ripe

Posted by VenFx > 2018-04-04 18:08 | Report Abuse

Kali ni ialah rumah runtuh kat ?
Nada buah durian,
China mau balas kenakan Trump...
Satu kampong ikut tunggu durian jatuh.

Posted by OPMS > 2018-04-04 18:50 | Report Abuse

hahaha wait till grizzly bear dead..

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 20:43 | Report Abuse

So what crash, just buy all the way down with cash and hold, kaotim loh.


Posted by myongcc5 > Apr 4, 2018 08:42 PM | Report Abuse

Icon, The last fought with bear in 2015 cud b very different fm current scenario!
It's better to b cautious as the melt down since beginning of tis year may turn into world financial crisis!
Unprotected capital may melt down to a point where many yrs needed to return, that is provided a strong company!
Many signs pointed to potential crash, just need a trigger!

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 20:51 | Report Abuse

Haha not a trader. So i can just swallow all the way down.

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 20:54 | Report Abuse

Good luck to you too.

May i suggest you consider value investing if crisis/downtrend happen.

Value investing works best when everything is dropping like flies. :)

Posted by tecpower > 2018-04-04 21:12 | Report Abuse

Don't run away too fast.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Wednesday he expects trade actions between the United States and China will likely lead to a negotiated deal, but that it was unclear whether such talks would happen by the end of May or later.

"It wouldn't be surprising at all if the net outcome of all this is some sort of a negotiation," Ross said in an interview with CNBC. "It's very difficult to put a specific time denomination on negotiations that are as complex as these."

Posted by tecpower > 2018-04-04 21:13 | Report Abuse

Haha

China's response is a surprise for some people," said Julian Evans-Pritchard, senior China economist at Capital Economics, noting that neither said had yet called for enforcement of the tariffs.

"It's more of a game of brinkmanship, making it clear what the cost would be, in the hopes that both sides can come to agreement and none of these tariffs will come into force," he said.

Beijing's list of 25 percent additional tariffs on U.S. goods covers 106 items with a trade value matching the $50 billion targeted on Washington's list, China's commerce and finance ministries said. The effective date depends on when the U.S. action takes effect.

Posted by PotentialGhost > 2018-04-04 21:16 | Report Abuse

Lancau lo Malaysia market , now market same as 2008 , take money go fark girl first . LOL

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-04 21:17 | Report Abuse

How to make big money like that?

The big money is made buying in crisis mah. You wait water clear d, big money people make d. And now the shark and crocodile all come in.


Posted by myongcc5 > Apr 4, 2018 08:56 PM | Report Abuse

I m both trader n value investor but will shun during crisis n b back when the water is clear!

Thanks fr yr suggestion!

Posted by tecpower > 2018-04-04 21:56 | Report Abuse

Fed’s Bullard sees no reason to hike interest rates further
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-bullard-sees-no-reason-to-hike-interest-rates-further-2018-04-04

Posted by tecpower > 2018-04-04 22:00 | Report Abuse

This trade war will not happen. Bet on it. Expect a rally

Posted by Alex™ > 2018-04-04 22:01 | Report Abuse

Then trump said... Aiya... Trade war gg la... Cancel cancel...

Posted by Up_down > 2018-04-05 11:51 | Report Abuse

Is it Trump trying to create reasons (chaos) to dump market sentiments pathing the way for FED board to block interest hike in the remaining months...high probability. lol

Posted by Up_down > 2018-04-05 12:40 | Report Abuse

We may witness DJ to break new high in coming months in the absent of interest rates hike.

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-04-05 13:08 | Report Abuse

Imo, people who play margin are greedy people.
If no money, don't play stock market.
If got enough money, just use the disposable one.

Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-04-05 16:02 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/04/05/sun-bears-trapped-and-killed-then-made-into-rendang-curry/


Icon, were you recently in indonesia ah? Haha

Posted by aiinvestor > 2018-04-05 23:00 | Report Abuse

Trump retains positive approval rating in Missouri, but lags in many other key '18 Senate race states
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/trump-retains-positive-approval-rating-in-missouri-but-lags-in/article_d4c18fba-0bda-5fe0-8bf5-dcd7096b7e00.html

Posted by aiinvestor > 2018-04-05 23:01 | Report Abuse

Trump’s Monthly Approval Rating Hits Record Low in March
https://morningconsult.com/2018/04/05/trumps-monthly-approval-rating-hits-record-low-in-march/

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-23 16:42 | Report Abuse

Mr. Bear is staying for breakfast, tea break, lunch, branch, dinner and supper.

Posted by yfchong > 2018-12-23 16:43 | Report Abuse

Bear bear is coming

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-12-23 16:49 | Report Abuse

Don't fight the bear. Kill it instead by punting index put warrants. You can't fight the bear because official economic data is showing economic downturn coming which may eventually lead to recession. Or you may just hug your millions of cash and go hibernate until 2021 which is confirmed a bull market reborn.

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-23 16:59 | Report Abuse

This coming recession will be massive. Our economy depend too much on oil, trade n export. Weak in domestic consumption coupled with higher tax. I think bull may return after 2021.

Posted by freetospeak > 2018-12-23 17:04 | Report Abuse

the fed still can cut rate 9 x how to recession...lol

Posted by jellyfish > 2018-12-23 17:11 | Report Abuse

dont be surprise if there will not be a recession as trump seek re-election as president and china economy slow , they will give n take and announce a trade deal

Posted by jellyfish > 2018-12-23 17:13 | Report Abuse

feb will pause on rate hike as dow drop..

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-23 17:21 | Report Abuse

The major U.S. stocks indexes accelerated declines in the last hour of trading after White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said the United States and China might not reach a trade deal at the close of a 90-day negotiating window unless Beijing can agree to a profound overhaul of its economic policies.

Posted by J For Janice > 2018-12-23 17:27 | Report Abuse

When next year jan come,the democrat will impeach trump

Posted by jellyfish > 2018-12-23 17:28 | Report Abuse

us indexes dropped last fri because of the us goverment impending shut down due to the border budget dispute

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-23 20:20 | Report Abuse

All news indicates it will head south till new year

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-12-24 11:42 | Report Abuse

Hmmm... Looks like people gave no shet about the bear..

Posted by Nicholasming91 > 2018-12-24 11:42 | Report Abuse

I guess the bear even doesnt want to be a bear anymore..

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-12-24 11:53 | Report Abuse

I guess stock market works like this.
Firstly a bad event like 911 or recession fear comes. Then the panic ones all exit first, left those unafraid ones holding. Then after a while interested outsiders came buying bit by bit while the fearful ones still stay sideline. So at this point the stocks will start rising again. Then until a certain high point those fearful ones came in again chasing high. And bad event happens again, cycle repeats...
WOW IM SUCH A GENIUS !!!

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-12-24 11:59 | Report Abuse

The most important point is you must exit before the panic ones rushing out. And collect when the market is quiet like Arctic.

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-24 12:01 | Report Abuse

Lol.. LFM pushing high for this round. Not sure how long it may last.

Posted by UnicornP > 2018-12-24 12:04 | Report Abuse

wat LFM?

Posted by feimah > 2018-12-24 12:06 | Report Abuse

Local fund manager