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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-24 21:38 | Report Abuse

y kcchongnz > Jul 24, 2019 6:34 PM | Report Abuse


Aiyo, you don't even realize how stupid you are.
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sure...U need students so no critical comments for KC Chong from NZ..........

KC...the way u write and choose your profession , u must think only u know about share market..............

truth is...only u and your kind are arrogant enough to choose this profession..............

warren buffet need paid students meh?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-24 21:42 | Report Abuse

kc...tell me why people like u reads a few books then already want to choose this profession?

nothing else better to do meh?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-24 21:44 | Report Abuse

kc...billion $ industry meh? u want a share of the billion $ industry?

how many must die in your hands first?

sampah

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Posted by sampah > 2019-07-24 23:25 | Report Abuse

That's why LENO appeared today, shouting loudly, in high tone,
to lure newbies to buy INSAS. (LENO sold)

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 00:26 | Report Abuse

kc...I know people who made lots of money from share market. They come from all walks of life, all kinds of professions.

I also know of people who paid lots of money to teachers, attend seminars and lost lots of money.................

moral of the story...difficult to find common denominators.

but sure as hell, no education is better self education, by intelligent people and ready ....if not ready and being pushed or lured by others sure lose money one.................

people can buy same same time and have very different results..........

me? I think the secret is this..............investments is buying good quality shares and have the patience to see the company perform, keep growing and growing................every thing else is speculation./ trading........................................if intelligent enough and ready, no need to pay anybody any fees.

Professionals are different...............professionals can pay for research................but that is one professional dealing with another professional on equal footings..............and both are ready.

no coercion, no lop sided relationship, and no student - teacher relationship...........

qqq3

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coolio

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Posted by coolio > 2019-07-25 07:13 | Report Abuse

hahaha..why this chap is mumbling non stop..need to go Tanjong rambutan

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-07-25 07:16 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha
qqq3, are you suffering from Masochistic personality disorder? If you like to be beaten up to a pulp, do it elsewhere. People are tired watching you so badly beaten up in the arena of i3 intelligent discourse. What are you trying to prove; your big bank account, your stupidity, your jealousy, your ignorance, your comedy, your PLP, your talk 3 talk 4 talk cock????? Please do your cycling and go get some medical help.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 07:31 | Report Abuse

sslee

its ok one....There will be at least one intelligent chap in a public forum...........

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 09:46 | Report Abuse

but SS right about cycling...........my favorite topic and hobby....Spend hours cycling and watching videos of cycling in Holland.

because Holland is a cycling nation, I nominate Dutch as most civilised people in the world...........but don't go holland, small cap.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2019-07-25 09:47 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 12:46 AM | Report Abuse

the relationship between between a beginner and a seminar leader/ subscription service is a lop sided one....Or as in the case of OTB, final decision is yours, but you know I have made millions and you nothing......U should know what to do.............

Ans :
I conduct my training course once in a year due to request from my subscribers and public.
There are many engineers, accountants, doctors, company directors and etc attending my training course.
I told them that I feel very shy to teach all these professionals.
They just answer me
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I do not care it is white cat or black cat, can catch a rat is a good cat.
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They told me they wish to learn from me because of my good records and the big profits I made from KLSE.
They are recommended to attend because many of my students recommend them to attend.
Many time I have my dinner in the restaurant, many time someone paid the bill for me without informing me.
Why ?
They appreciate my effort to help them.

There are many engineers, accountants, doctors, company directors and etc subscribed to my article every year.
They are richer than qqq3,
they are more honest than qqq3,
they are more humble than qqq3,
they have better social standing than qqq3.

Do you think that they are stupid to attend my training course and subscribe to my article ?
They are smart people judging from their social standing.

qqq3 keep on or continue to bad mouth me will not affect my social standing.
Thank you to make me more famous indirectly.

qqq3, I used my last finger already beat you flat.
Want to challenge me, wait for next life.

goh188

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Posted by goh188 > 2019-07-25 09:55 | Report Abuse

All because of EGO.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 12:35 | Report Abuse

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Jul 25, 2019 9:47 AM | Report Abuse


qqq3, I used my last finger already beat you flat.
Want to challenge me, wait for next life.
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that explains why u choose to be a small conman instead of leading a normal dignified life.

u think stock market is 1+1 = 2 meh?

never heard even Forest Gump can make millions?

qqq3

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Ooi Teik Bee

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 14:34 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 14:39 | Report Abuse

a guesstimate...........I must have trade , maybe 300 counters in last 5 years...........why these 8 ?

qqq3

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 14:44 | Report Abuse

Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?


stock market like that one meh?? U think stock market like being a mechanic or an engineer?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 14:56 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 15:39 |

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kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 15:41 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 2:34 PM | Report Abuse
u know where he dig all that them from meh? I don't.
maybe it shows, speculate / trade better than buy and hold because my portfolio went from $ 50,000 to $ 350,000 in last 5 years.........

You know with 12111 comments in i3investor, and that is only with the nick of qqq3, not including comments with other nicks such as Desa6769, Brightsmart, Loneranger, Stockmanny, etc,

1) People know what stocks you bought. We don't know the price you sold and whether you made money or not, although you claimed you had, months later that you claimed you had sold them. But we know what are the prices of those stocks now, and how badly they have tanked, everyone of them,and yet you claimed you had made money. A true "pro"indeed. Only thing is we don't know you are a "pro" of cheating, or pro of trading. We do know the pros in trading is less than 5% in the market. May be, who knows, you are one of them. Hack, we don't even know the method or process of your trading.

2) Those who are long in i3investor know what stocks you have touted in i3investor, and asked people here to sailang and margin, and the prices like Jaks and Sendai tanked by more than two thirds now.

3) Even those stocks tanked and newbies and beginners lost their pants, as the stocks prices of those stocks fell relentlessly, yet you claimed you have made killings for numerous rounds. That you have revealed the kind of person you are; manipulative, ruthless, as long as you make money, you will do everything hurting others. You have exposed your character in shameless PLP rich people and aim to benefit from that, but at the same time scorning and cursing all others, including many sincerely sharing knowledge and experience.

4) From your comments, people know details of your life and your family. How much you have(but confusing as sometimes you said you have RM100k, and later RM50k, what your children do, even though classifying one as an "änalyst"" although he have just gone through the first year of CFA programme, their salaries, where you live, how many cars and parking lot you have or don't have, your previous job as an "accountant", though I cannot fathom the knowledge that you are so lacked of doing your job.

TanDavid88

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Posted by TanDavid88 > 2019-07-25 15:48 | Report Abuse

qqq3 needs to see a doctor otherwise he will be in Tanjong Rambutan.
Capital is 100k, now say 50k, never trust qqq3.
Do not waste your time with this sick man.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 15:54 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 15:58 | Report Abuse

TanDavid88 > Jul 25, 2019 3:48 PM | Report Abuse

qqq3 needs to see a doctor otherwise he will be in Tanjong Rambutan.
Capital is 100k, now say 50k, never trust qqq3.
Do not waste your time with this sick man.
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the bottom in my present account is about $ 50,000 in 2014, it was $ 100k when I first appeared in i3...............now...$ 350,000...if it can repeat at that rate, I will be rich like kyy when I am 80.....hoping but not sure one............

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 16:00 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 2:44 PM | Report Abuse X

Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?


stock market like that one meh?? U think stock market like being a mechanic or an engineer?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 16:03 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 3:54 PM | Report Abuse
kc...what I have shared about myself is out of various casual conversation......but not relevant to what I say about u and OTB...2 little con men.

Conman?

I can easily show you are a big conman, not little but big, which I have shown numerous time on how you conned newbies and beginners to sailang and margin Jaks and Sendai and you have profited again and again. Actually no need to show, you told everyone here numerous times.

Can you elaborate how I am a "conman" with specifics? or is it "änticonman" because I have exposed a conman of you?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 16:06 | Report Abuse

TanDavid88 > Jul 25, 2019 3:48 PM | Report Abuse

n Tanjong Rambutan.
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not Tanjong Rambutan but habit of having contrarian views is useful for everybody.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 16:09 | Report Abuse

Can you elaborate how I am a "conman" with specifics?

my answer to that question.......


Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?
stock market like that one meh?? U think stock market like being a mechanic or an engineer?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 16:16 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 4:09 PM | Report Abuse
Can you elaborate how I am a "conman" with specifics?
my answer to that question.......
Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?
stock market like that one meh?? U think stock market like being a mechanic or an engineer?

A teacher, whether he teaches science or art, or the right way of investing, is a definitely a dignified career. I had had great teachers in my school and university days.

An accountant is also a dignified profession, of course not if you do hanky panky stuff and got sacked and banned from the profession. That is incredibly "Undignified".

Investment bankers and remisiers can also be a dignified career if they can help investors to build long-term wealth with low risk.

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2019-07-25 16:17 | Report Abuse

Wah still arguing ...

You guys very good stamina...

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 16:21 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 4:09 PM | Report Abuse
Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?
stock market like that one meh?? U think stock market like being a mechanic or an engineer?

Obviously OTB has a dignified job as many of his investors praise him. Even your master admires him because he had advised him not to invest in Jaks and Sendai as touted by you. His regret is listened to you instead of OTB.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 16:28 | Report Abuse

kc..........you should add........stock market education , billion $ industry some more..........


I think I have had enough of this topic, for now.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 16:42 |

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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 17:06 | Report Abuse

kc...I traded with about 300 counters last few years ( guesstimate)...not just Jaks / Sendai...............

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 17:09 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 4:09 PM | Report Abuse
Do dignified honest hard working people choose this profession ...they think they can help u make money one..........?

There are many people involve in this investing industry. It is not a matter of if someone is involved in this industry is a person with dignity, or if this industry is a dignified or not dignified. It is how one carries himself.

A person who is involves in this industry has dignity because,
1. He teaches people to invest in the right way, and to me, it has to be treating investing in stock like investing in part of a business.
2. He teaches them to avoid the pitfalls of investing, understand risks
3. He teaches them not to do risky things such as using margin finance, or swinging for the fence
4. He teaches them not to follow stock tips from anybody, rumours, and hypes.
5. He teaches them to invest in good companies, how to determine if a company is good or bad. And only invest if it is a good company selling at reasonable price, or a mediocre company at a great price.
6. Invest for long term, long term doesn’t mean holding a stock for long term, and not trading stocks.
Another person who has absolutely no dignity.
1. He touts stocks for himself or hand-in-hand with manipulators
2. He encourages newbies and beginners to sailing stocks
3. He relentlessly touting them to use margin
4. He glorifies his trading adventure and encourage others to do the same
5. He talks quality but trade rubbish stocks
6. He touts others to buy a stock and sell at the back and then proclaim he has made a killing
7. He PLP the rich and scorn all others who share their knowledge

Question, which resembles you and which resemble me?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 17:18 | Report Abuse

re jaks and sendai...the relevant question to ask is............would jaks and Sendai have drop to 50 sen and 40 sen respectively if there is no selling by a 30% shareholder over a few months...........


kc..so it is more about technical reasons and not that u are so smart.................

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 17:24 |

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kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 17:34 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 5:24 PM | Report Abuse
kc.......shares with syndicates such as OTB/KYY shares.......u must know when to in and out if u want to have any thing to do with OTB shares......................
what has that to do with education except one sentence?

What is that to do with education?

I can tell you for sure none of those who have learnt from me would have been cheated by you when you were shouting margin and sailang Jaks and Sendai.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 17:37 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 5:24 PM | Report Abuse
what has that to do with education except one sentence?

If someone has learnt from me about investing, or even just read my articles on them in i3investor, instead of listening to PLP thingy from someone else, he would not got himself burnt so badly to the tune of more than RM100m.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 17:39 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 5:24 PM | Report Abuse
kc.......shares with syndicates such as OTB/KYY shares.......u must know when to in and out if u want to have any thing to do with OTB shares...

In Jaks and Sendai case, if you knew it is a syndicate play, why you enticed those newbies and beginners to sailang and margin on them, and you at the back sold to them and caused them to lose their pants?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-07-25 18:03 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 25, 2019 5:18 PM | Report Abuse
re jaks and sendai...the relevant question to ask is............would jaks and Sendai have drop to 50 sen and 40 sen respectively if there is no selling by a 30% shareholder over a few months...........
kc..so it is more about technical reasons and not that u are so smart.................

So what do you think the reasons for the big shareholders selling Jaks and Sendai at such a huge loss?

Is it because they are great stocks, or is it because he finally knew they were rubbish stocks touted by you?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 19:06 | Report Abuse

kcchongnz > Jul 25, 2019 6:03 PM | Report Abuse

Is it because they are great stocks, or is it because he finally knew they were rubbish stocks touted by you?
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I so powerful one meh? I tout and kyy buys, the whole world buys?

lurk talks about computer , kc chong from nz is the computer.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-07-25 23:15 | Report Abuse

this kc chong from nz...for 2-3 years only know how to talk about Jaks and Sendai ( and now stupid Insas) want to consider himself stock market man............

kc...u think all Malaysians idiots? go back to sleepy NZ lah..............

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-07-28 20:01 | Report Abuse

Dear i3lurker,
I actually wrote an article in my blog on how I cried when I learn that my colleague and good friend is on MAS MH 17.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/178025.jsp

Thank you

3iii

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2019-07-29 20:10 | Report Abuse

How could value trap, when raider already make a few rounds in insas, ptaras and analab leh ??

If u r practioner of margin of safety, the probability of value trap over 3 yrs cycle is very low mah...!!

The risk of holding on overvalue Nestle at PE 50x with dividend yield of slightly above 1% pa is very much higher loh...!!


Posted by 3iii > Jul 29, 2019 4:07 PM | Report Abuse

Stockraider's value traps.

It is easy to learn of stockraider's recommendations. He had a lot of discussion with my fellow friend, Simple Soul in another blog and these were all part of the conversations raider had with Simple Soul.

It should be obvious to all that raider is full of hot air but when you actually does a thorough analysis of his claims, they all come to nothing.

I feel sad for him as he seems to be full of himself but rarely accepts constructive criticisms based on facts. Often, he twists and turns.

These have been the patterns for years.

Never mind, I learn a lot from raider's mistakes and for these I should be thankful.

stockraider

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