Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:02 | Report Abuse

Quote: "Religion unites people. That is the function of religion"

That's too superficial - seeing from one side of the coin. Not the big picture

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:03 | Report Abuse

The hegemons have their narrative...the problem with hegemons is they have forgotten the value of negotiations....being hegemons too long will lead to their down fall

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:03 | Report Abuse

What really promote unity is this: Promoting education that fosters empathy and understanding among the next generation is a crucial step toward preventing war and reducing divisions based on false beliefs and dogma. Encouraging critical thinking and tolerance can help bridge gaps between people and reduce the impact of divisive ideologies.

Posted by OnTime > 2023-10-29 10:03 | Report Abuse

the sutras say humans are all iniquitous beings, all imbue with the 5 poisons of greediness, hatred, wrong views, condescendence, and suspicion.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:04 | Report Abuse

What u talk la.... No mutual respect u want peace? How long can u be hegemon?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:05 | Report Abuse

In a school where young minds bloom and grow,
Fundamentalism's shadow, an unsettling blow.
It divides the children into groups so stark,
Believers and nonbelievers, a division in the park.

In the core of their faith, they firmly stand,
An ingroup formed by beliefs so grand.
But in this division, the outgroup takes its place,
Isolation and ostracism, a sad and bitter taste.

Polarization brews, prejudice takes hold,
Innocent hearts, once warm, now turning cold.
In the classroom, intolerance rears its head,
Cooperation and understanding, too often left for dead.

Let's strive for unity, in diversity we'll find,
A world where all beliefs peacefully bind.
For in the hearts of children, there's hope to be seen,
A future where acceptance reigns, in every shade and sheen.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:06 | Report Abuse

by EngineeringProfit > 7 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Second question: Which religion has brought to the world more



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S.tuoid question...if u want war, go and question people religion la.

Posted by Sslee > 2023-10-29 10:09 | Report Abuse

qqq3 must be joking to name Mao Zedong civil war as revolution. The real revolution of Modern China founder DR. Sun Yat-Sen

Mao is just another side of a civil war who claim the mandate of heaven to beat KMT General Chiang Kai-Shek

Only barbarian will use the term "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:17 | Report Abuse

Main stream media main stream opinion is dictated by those in power, the richest, the most powerful, the hegemons,...that is almost by definition ..what I like about China is that new China will stand on the side of the global south....it's the natural thing for China to do.

Posted by Sslee > 2023-10-29 10:19 | Report Abuse

Hamas longstanding goal is of an Theocracy Caliph Islamist Palestinian state covering all of the area of today's Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip, and that the State of Israel is illegal and illegitimate.

If this is the case can you say Isreal is force into war with Hamas for their survival? And actually who is rejecting two state solution?

Posted by Huangbk72 > 2023-10-29 10:24 | Report Abuse

Jewish are settlers on Arab Palestine land.

If your tenant evict you from your house by force... what do you do.

I am neither side supporter.. This above compelling reason alone, will show no peace until Jews are driven out from Israel.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:27 | Report Abuse

Quote:"Hamas longstanding goal is of an Theocracy Caliph Islamist ...."

It's important to note that some religious scriptures clearly contain passages to justify coercion or force conversion, as well as prescription of discriminatory treatment of those who reject conversion.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:29 | Report Abuse

Quote: "Jewish are settlers on Arab Palestine land...."

History of mankind must be taken in the full stretch of timeframe. Their kings David and Solomon had settled there, right? Why not their land?

Posted by Sslee > 2023-10-29 10:32 | Report Abuse

If you are talking about history then how far of a history you should go into?

History the land belong to Jewish or Arab Palestine all depend on how far you want to go into history.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:32 | Report Abuse

And all Sapiens migrated out of Africa anyway - and settled somewhere , made their claims somehow

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:32 | Report Abuse

The argument that Israelis have entitlement to their land due to the historical presence of King Solomon and King David is rooted in the historical and religious narratives of the Jewish people. While it's important to note that historical claims can be complex and subject to interpretation, here's an argument based on this perspective:

1. Historical and Religious Significance: King Solomon and King David are prominent figures in Jewish history and religion, playing essential roles in the establishment of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and the construction of the First Temple. Their presence in the land is significant to the Jewish identity and faith.

2. Biblical Promises: For many Jews, the land of Israel is central to their religious beliefs, as it is often seen as the promised land given to them by God. The biblical narratives, particularly in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), highlight the divine covenant with the Jewish people, including promises of the land as their inheritance.

3. Centuries of Jewish Presence: Throughout history, there have been Jewish communities living in the region, even after periods of exile and dispersion. This continuity of Jewish presence in the land is seen as a strong historical claim.

4. International Recognition: The establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 received international recognition and support, in part due to historical ties and the injustices suffered by Jewish communities over the centuries.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:34 | Report Abuse

Just imagine - one day we Dayaks, Jakuns and Penans want to reclaim Sundaland

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:35 | Report Abuse

And expel our land occupiers

Posted by Sslee > 2023-10-29 10:37 | Report Abuse

And if you go far enough into history then both Jewish and Arab Palestine are the same, sons of Abraham faith.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:40 | Report Abuse

Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, etc etc

Posted by Huangbk72 > 2023-10-29 10:41 | Report Abuse

It happened in 1917.. not too long ago and Arab people remembers. Land never belong to Jews.

Arab has every right to take back what is theirs.

Jews has every right to use Balfour Declaration to stay...

So no peace is possible until 1 side is defeated.

Posted by Sslee > 7 minutes ago | Report Abuse

If you are talking about history then how far of a history you should go into?

History the land belong to Jewish or Arab Palestine all depend on how far you want to go into history.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:42 | Report Abuse

After all, all blue eyes link back to a single ancestor who lived between 6000 and 10000 years ago.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:43 | Report Abuse

Science unites. Religion divides - the people, you see

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 10:43 | Report Abuse

Good one. Hahaha!

Posted by Sslee > 7 minutes ago | Report Abuse

If you are talking about history then how far of a history you should go into?

History the land belong to Jewish or Arab Palestine all depend on how far you want to go into history.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:47 | Report Abuse

A common human body contains approximately 4 x 10^27 hydrogen atoms and 2 x 10^27 oxygen atoms. Even if we accumulate these atoms randomly, on average, each of us has hundreds of billions of atoms that once resided inside every other person and pig on Earth a year ago.

(Furthermore, your body not only contains atoms from all the people on Earth but also from King Solomon and dinosaurs that existed thousands and millions of years ago, respectively.)

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:49 | Report Abuse

Deep understand of science unites the ppl deeply. Religion unites superficially, but divide unconcilably

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:50 | Report Abuse

somewhere , made their claims somehow


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Posted by EngineeringProfit > 12 minutes ago | Report Abuse

The argument that Israelis have entitlement to their land due to the historical presence of King Solomon and King David is rooted in the historical and religious narratives of the Jewish people. While it's important to note that historical claims can be complex and subject to interpretation, here's an argument based on this perspective:

1. Historical and Religious Significance: King Solomon and King David are prominent figures in Jewish history and religion, playing essential roles in the establishment of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and the construction of the First Temple. Their presence in the land is significant to the Jewish identity and faith.
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Red herrings that lead no where. It does benefit the status quo....but revolutions are because the Dao is not followed. The Dao says the weak shall submit the strong shall rule by kindness. No kindness, no love, no mutual respect, no soft touch and all u have is hegemony, u are asking for trouble

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:52 | Report Abuse

Important for the Jews to understand...giving people a way to live is to give yourself a way to live.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 10:54 | Report Abuse

Quote: "...lead no where. It does benefit the status "

Status quo and unchanging Dao are illusions. Change is the only constant in the universe

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 10:54 | Report Abuse

It seems this is the only way out to living peaceful for our descendant.

Posted by Sslee > Oct 29, 2023 7:42 AM | Report Abuse

What good will that bring in wanting and finding the root cause when the patient die immediately.

The English has been fighting French for thousands of years and so were all the so called countries in Europe fighting and killing each other for thousand and thousand of years (WWI and WWII). So what were the root cause then. Is it helping in peace building?

Please have the life-long courage to live and to forgive. I am not asking Palestine and Isreali to be as magnanimous as the late Mr. Nelson Mandela but try to be an average European citizen that after century of bitter and apocalyptic war and trying to kill each other they now live in peace cleared of hatred and what remains is life-long forgiveness and distant memory of war

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 10:57 | Report Abuse

Main stream media main stream opinion is dictated by those in power, the richest, the most powerful, the hegemons,...that is almost by definition ..what I like about China is that new China will stand on the side of the global south....it's the natural thing for China to do.

To prove my point. The most popular most honoured guest in the recent Hangzhou games are the Assad's. Internet sensation in China. China and the public loves under dogs, loves that Obama wants Assad's to die but the Assad's are still here.....lovely couple., Assad and wife. Did all the right things in China. It's natural for China is stand on the side of the global south as China sees itself as victims of the imperial west. And nowadays because of the American sanctions.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:00 | Report Abuse

I had said many times. They learn from Jesus. God took a piece of Adam's rib bone to give life to Eve.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:03 | Report Abuse

Please have the life-long courage to live and to forgive. I am not asking Palestine and Isreali to be as magnanimous as the late Mr. Nelson Mandela but try to be an average European citizen that after century of bitter and apocalyptic war and trying to kill each other they now live in peace cleared of hatred and what remains is life-long forgiveness and distant memory of war
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Go and pressure the weak so much for what? Go and pressure the strong la

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 11:09 | Report Abuse

One word...pity on you. Your life is full of fear and negativity.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:26 | Report Abuse

Steps to end the war:

1. Rekindle the spirit of all sapiens as descendents from the Last Universal Common Ancestor. De-religion the issue.

DickyMe > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

".. religion unites,"???

It divides people into factions, it creates chaos and bloodbath.
Millions of lives have been sacrificed in the name of religion over the millenniums.
Religion has a gory history.

DickyMe > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Religion is still the number one cause for unrest in the world.

stockraider > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Remember Religion is generally divisive unless u embrace & join a particular religion, but then u only unite within that religion loh!


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Posted by stockraider > 3 weeks ago | Report Abuse

The uniting factors for our children are sports, make money schemes, having funs and celebrations

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:30 | Report Abuse

The wisest are the Chinese. They have seen everything. And China loves all the 56 tribes, no exceptions.


The trouble with people who go and criticise Muslims for what? U also want to start a war? So ridiculous

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:34 | Report Abuse

People send me videos of Celtic football fans stand in solidarity with Palestine. That is the right thing to do. Millions marching in western capitals to stand in solidarity with the Palestinians. That is the right thing to do.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:35 | Report Abuse

Wrong time to criticise islam

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:35 | Report Abuse

Right time to stand in solidarity with Muslims.

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 11:36 | Report Abuse

What is the different between and knife and religion? It depends on us.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:36 | Report Abuse

Jews are smart but no wisdom. All the smartness also no use

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:38 | Report Abuse

Jews who are logical should just leave Israel.

Israel no future.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:40 | Report Abuse

The fact is knife and religion are no different from one another as both have to be handled with care, kept away from the children and can cause harm and misery to the countless innocent people

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 11:41 | Report Abuse

It's not possible of not using knife in our life. Guide the children nicely to use the knife with a proper manual.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > Oct 29, 2023 11:38 AM | Report Abuse

The fact is knife and religion are no different from one another as both have to be handled with care, kept away from the children and can be cause harm to the innocent people

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:42 | Report Abuse

Quote:"Israel no future...."

Whether got or not very much depends on the outcome of this war - the ultimate war against terrorism

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:42 | Report Abuse

Harmony do not need the Chinese to criticise the Muslims.

Harmony just need mutual respect and win win.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:43 | Report Abuse

Quote: "It's not possible ..."

Wrong. Nothing is impossible. With new tech. With robotic AI. No one needs to touch knife in the near future. You'll surprised

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-29 11:47 | Report Abuse

You should ask why the Americans and Jews forgot the need for diplomacy? Need for negotiations and compromises. Forgot about win win.


And why should Chinese side with the strong to kick the weak? U think Chinese so s.tupid one meh?

Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-29 11:49 | Report Abuse

By then, the new tech, robot AI or laser has turned into knife (function as knife and beyond). What is knife?


Posted by EngineeringProfit > Oct 29, 2023 11:43 AM | Report Abuse

Quote: "It's not possible ..."

Wrong. Nothing is impossible. With new tech. With robotic AI. No one needs to touch knife in the near future. You'll surprised

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-29 11:49 | Report Abuse

Quote: "Harmony just need mutual respect and win win."

Did the Muslims try to that with Israel?