玩股票是要看风向和大环境。当我们知道石油己涨到六十美元时我己经开始买石油股了。我叫我朋友大量买石油股他绐了我他的username 和password我帮他买进了300lots Perdana at 33.5 cents, 95lots Penergy at 83 cents, 100lots Armada at 77.5 cents ,200lots Dayang at71cents.200lots Sapnrg at 71cents. 250lots Ekovest at93 cents.刚才他打电话问我可以卖了吗?我只告訢他只要他看到www.oilprice.com 的石油六十美元以上就收住不用担心。因为他是early Bird买进。我告诉他如果石油再涨到大六十五到七十美元他发了。当风向吹石油股热钱全部都进了那些石油股别的股就很难有人注意到又有谁买?没人或少人买那股又能够上多少呢?石油股才刚起步吧了。以前三到四元现在不到80cents上涨空间还很大。記得不要玩contra就好。
Flysmart-Read this paragraph in the edge newspaper "On Oct 23, 2017, Notion VTec had estimated the damage caused by the fire to be between RM150 million and RM200 million." Assuming out of RM200 million damage and RM150 million is high tech machinery and building cost. What is so big deal with RM15 millions of advanced insurance claim ? How many months Notion need to rebuild the building and how much of bank loan Notion get from bank to order and install back all new high tech machinery ? How much fixed overhead salary bank loan interest Notion need to bear for this few months without production ? How much compensation need to pay for delay of supply to buyers (if states in Agreement) ? How many existing big clients orders will loss in this few months ? How many big clients will switch to others Notion competitor in term of Lens supply by Notion ? I don't deny Notion is potentially good small capitals listed company in bursa. But fire destroys it for 2 time between 3 years. Do you think this advanced fire insurance claim can boost up Notion to 10 cents higher on next week ? Hope all the best to Notion die heart supporters.
I had disposed off all my notion shares at a loss after the fire incident. I believe Notion was not performing well even b4 the fire incident bcos their 4th Qtr results @ 30 Sept came out negative. They were lucky that ppl were focusing on the fire incident instead of this Qtr results which was b4 fire incident. Doubt the Mgmt credibility and integrity bcos 2 fire incidents within 3 years....... guess all their customers have already moved to their other competitors by now. The Mgmt can play up their shares to whatever price but I swear never to touch Notion again.
Let me tell you all the only oil and gas counter 89% share hold by 30 largest share holder is PEnergy. Only left 11% trade in the market each day. Total issued share is 321 millions. This counter very easy to push up because buyer and seller bit a few cents difference. Yesterday oil and gas counter very hot dealing intra day up 13 cents and closed up 6 cents. This counter only suitable for player able to pick up after bought it. Buy at your own risk.
flysmart i live in kuala Lumpur kuchai lama. My main focus is in property investment in year 2010 i and my wife had bought few property and shop before the property bull. Both of us own 13 property all tenanted. I retired in age 45 due to my neck cervical disc cant carry heavy things and can look into computer for long time. Before i retired i work as IT networking company. I play share more than 30 years my friend who gave me his HLE broking securities is company run a turn over business 280 millions a years. His HLE broking account total investmeny over 3.2 millions. very ugly results. When i saw his account the first sentences i told him is please stop pumping any more money to buy any share. If He want to buy share just sell or swap with the current sleeping share or not performance share before it delisted in KLSE. back to 24 Novmember morning he called me to login to his trading account buy PUC at 21 cents and sell all Hiaptek and Hiaptek-warrent . I immediate check on PUC share i told him this share since January 2017 from 5 cents up until 22.5 cents 24 November are you sure you want to buy this share. He said yes. i help him sold all his share bought 2000 lots PUC at 21 cents. I told 2 others classmate also his classmate in form six about this friend bought 2000 PUC i did asked him do you got any news about this he just smile. This 2 friends also bought 20 and 30 lots at 21 cents next day. Today PUC is already 33 cents he gain 250K from this counter. on 14 December i met him i told him to buy Ekovest related to Bandar 1 Malaysia. I asked him sold all his 450 lots rubberex it i not mistaken. bought 220 lots Ekovest at 93 cents balance money buy Penergy at 83 cents share. Since December i start to alert him looked into Oil and Gas counter it almost 55-57 dollar already. I start to asked him buy Dayang, and Perdana Share slowly accumulated Prepare hiS bullet to buy more. 4/12/2018 Thursday Oil touch 62 dollar in the morning i called him swap ALL BJcorp 735 lots utilize all money swap to Dayang, Perdana,Penergy Armada,Sapenry in the open market at 9:00am morning with extra 0.5 cents to 1.5 cents Wednesday closed price. Finally i manage to swap all share for him on Thursday total Oil and gas Share bought Dayang 400 Lots Sapenry 200 Lots Perdana 300 Lots Penergy 95 Lots Armada 100 Lots Ekovest 220 on 14 Dec another 30 lots on 4/12/2018 total is 250 Lots
5/12/2018 Friday morning i told him to sell off his 30 lots Supermax at 2.08 cents lose RM900 and top up 100 lots Dayang but only manage to bought 60 Lots Dayang due to over limit of 300K limit in his trading account.
Friday night he called talk about this Oil and gas counter. I told him sold other counter to buy more Dayang in next monday. That what i did for my friend i knew him since form six. All oil and gas counter i bought for my friend i did not write a comment in that forum. Because they are in the right channel now !!!
In share investment knowledge Lim Sin you just a standard 6 Student. I paid a lots of fees to learn in the past 30 years. 3 years ago i bought Notion share above RM1.00+ and i asked my friend buy Notion Warrant B at 25 cents. after Fire Notion share drop as low as 38 cents and warrant i asked my friend bought drop as low 2 cents. He is one of the 30 largest warrant holder. 2016 October Notion start to recovered from 45 cents to early January 2017 almost 1.22 cent i sold all lucky my friend Notion up to 30+ cents plus and he gain almost 50k before few months warrant date expired. That is a very good experiences to us for Notion share. I feel so sorry to asked him buy Notion warrant when warrant prices drop as low 2 cents in years 2016. Even thought to my friend few hundred lots warrant cost to him is nothing.
@Chung, Hi, I really believed what you have done for your friend no need to show me la ! Thanks for your sincere sharing anyway ... I think your advice to me will be cut loss and switch to Oil n Gas counter.
On Thursday night i talk to my friend why not sell 500 Lots PUC closed at 33 cents buy another 500 lots Perdana at 33.5 cents Friday morning. I told him Oil price is up to 62 dollar. This oil and gas counters will be hot again. his PUC is base on news. once announce news share may push up in few days only. "Buy on rumours sell on fact " finally PUC will slow down once day. But As long Oil price continue up you can see many oil and gas counters continue in Top 20 actives list. My wife advised me not to change his decision in PUC since he got new to hold. finally i stop pushing him sell PUC swap to Perdana on Friday. After Friday market closed Perdana up 10.5 cents from 33.5 to 44 cents. He called me How many Perdana i bought for him last 2 days. I said only 300 Lots. i told him you miss another 50k profit just for swap 500 lots PUC to Perdana. Friday PUC up 0.5 cent Perdana up 10.5 cents. Next Monday i continue to buy Dayang for him only. I told my friend if Perdana continue hot it will led Dayang up too..... is my comment clear to Notion die heart holders ?
Lim sin "advance claim payment of RM15,000,000.00 GOOD / BAD news ??? " I will congratulation to Notion share holder if this 15 Millions is profit from quarterly financial not fire claim. Fire caused 200 Millions damage whatever claim from insurance is your loss. Just a simple example you are grab car or lorry driver. Your car or lorry is you "Cari Makan" equipment. One day you car or Lorry had accident need to sent to work shop for 1 month repair. Insurance approved your claim repair your car or lorry. That fine new paint new spare parts to your car but does it infect your one month income due to no car or lorry to "cari makan" ?
Yoongcalyn is not too late to swap your counter to grab oil and gas counters condition you must hold it don't play "contra" Careful not all oil and gas counters can buy. Dayang is my first choice related to Sarawak local king counter. For safety investment Stay away from this even those is cheap. Alam KNM Daya Sumatac Perisai PN17
Lim Sin "we cant keep long term for oil & gas, i will agree short term" Let www.oilprice.com to answer your question. This wed got many professional fund manager invest in oil and gas. How this fund manager focus oil and gas will give you a tips when to sell when to continue hold.
Lim Beng Teik morning I don't have any icon info about this counter. You should go to Icon forum see some comments there. But don't 100% believe all comments there. Already go to www.oil price.com read fund manager focus about oil price news there.
LiM Sin "10:1 free warrant oh, who don want, +price is UNDER VALUE OH " Ask yourself Why Notion did not announce this so call good news before fire incident ? Main Reason could be the share price drop too much. Just to fish some buyers to buy and support share price further go down. Second reason maybe director pledge they share for personal mortgage loan for personal investment in Land or property. Bank Normally give 60-70% of that share value for the loan. example director Mr XXX pledge his share to bank for 20 millions base on share price before fire incidents. After fire incidents share value drop to 15 millions below than the value of bank loan. The banker will asked Director Mr XXX top up 5 millions money to secure the bank loan granted him. If Director Mr XXX no money to top up difference ammount requested by Bank. bank will do force selling Director Mr XXX share in the market at any buyer price. if after Total force selling share value is 13 Millions bank will request Director XXX pay another 7 millions to settle off his loan. LCL company delisted in KLSE is one of the good examples CIMB bank force selling all LCL CEO personal share pledge to bank when LCL suffer huge loses in middle east project during oil crisis and LCL share price drop much lower value than the CEO share pledge to Bank . LCL higher record per share is RM6.50 by delisted it value less than 1 cent.
请看今天星州日报财经如何报导。看二十大热门及大涨价股。请自行判断自己的投资。希望我的评谕不引响你买或卖本身的立场。To Lim Sin and others Notion share holders please continue your decision. I not responsible for any loss to my comments.
Hi Chung, your comments shared with us have been interesting and valuable to us. Thanks for your sharing and your sincerity in highlighting some of the rational strategy in stock market play. Hope to learn more from you. Take care
Chung, surprise to see you here, come back to dayang,haha. You are one of the person that i am following with. no point to argie with people thatjust speculate good qr without any reference. By the way, just curious why u focus highly on og midstream/service provider but not operator (hibiscus/reach)?
Why Perdana up 10.5 cents on Friday from 33.5 cents closed 44 cents? Perdana Relisting back to KLSE after suspended more than 2 years. Dayang hold perdana share more than 97% as Dayang fail to get 100% Perdana share and has requested by bursa minimum public shareholding spread has been regularised to 20.016%. Dayang distribute 302 Perdana share to each lot Dayang share holder as species dividend. Finally perdana re-listing back in KLSE. Dayang thru Perdana is involved in Provision of Maintenance Services, Fabrication Operations, Hook-up & Commissioning, Charter of Marine Vessels and Vessel Technical Specification. As today Dayang hold 60% of Perdana share. Oil price crash in 2014-2017 from USD120 per barrel to less than USD40 Per barrel. Many Oil and Gas company in global suffer great loss due to production cost higher than market prices. Some reduce or closed they Oil Rip production. This infected to Perdana business provided maintenance and others Vessels renting services to Petronas or Shell. For the past few years most Oil and Gas companys in Bursa suffer 100-1000 millions in a years. Some goes to PN17. Perdana suffer 142 millions for the past 9 months drag Dayang financially report loss 89 millions too. Last year May Perdana propose PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF UP TO 10% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ISSUED SHARES OF PPB. How Perdana determine the price of 10% private placement share price for new investor with additional 5-8% discount from current market price ? Normally this private placement share price will be pro-rata of 5 days Perdana trading closed market price with the date is fixed by both Perdana and new investor. How much new fund raise from this 10% private placement? If Perdana share price are trade around 30+ cents for the five days. The increase of oil prices to 60 dollar is the right timing for Perdana raise more fund from 10% private placement for the pro-rate price of Perdana share price. How do to that the answer is “ Goreng Perdana “ does this make sense to you do why perdana up 10.5 cents Friday ? will this uptrend continue in next week ? Please do your home work at www.oilprice.com check the most current oil prices. Because uptrend of oil prices above 60 dollar will continue make oil and gas counter in top 20 counter actives and top 20 gainer counter of the day indirectly Perdana will continue goreng by big shark lah and Dayang share price will led by Perdana up trend loh…….Please I not brain wash you to buy this oil and gas counters. Don’t scold me if you sell off your darling “ Notion” share switch to oil and gas counters and Notion limit up to Rm1.00 next weeks.
Thanks Chung for your sharing. I guess i should stop talking about OG stock here before tick others' nerve off here. haha. Anyway, always good to see you in i3 even though you are not that active. But still will always follow your update and have a good year ahead.
Anyway, notion is indeed a undervalue stock but definitely not now unless an improve QR shown. Congratz for those who catch it at bottom. but now should consolidate a while till a catalyst appear (improving QR etc). Good luck for all in this bullish 2018. (all thanks to GE)
yoongcalyn As long you can pick up the Oil and Gas counter your bought. I trust you will get good return. Base on closed market. All oil and gas counters and Ekovest up 3-6 cents. Today My friend conters i bought for him recover another 65k profit. He almost recovered 150K i sold this two counter BJcorp and Rubberex cost him paper lose is RM185k . Please Dont play contra. Another 35k to go.
maybe their previous customer came back to do business with them? imagine only insurance advance payment... what happen if full insurance payment? i wonder....
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Back from Topglov RM 8.77, it is seem not enter time for Notion, Lim Sin go to some other stock then come back