good123, u must be the pokai Vincent godson. your theory is like the beautiful England fairytales. anywhere , I dont buy theory at all but i can confirm the pokai Vincent is left hand selling to his right hand to push the price further down.
This is just a sweet dream. VT will sell bjtoto at high price to somebody else and the money keep in bjland then every year his whole family draw million million director fee and all sort of fee and enjoy starbuck coffee.
He don't need to accumulate so many shares (85%) to enjoy the million million director fees (In fact, he already doing this for years in different listed company) . In this case, declare dividend or privatize at low price shall maximize his benefit as the major shareholder. Anyway, foxy will always be foxy, no one know his plan.
Well, there is still possibility for VT to distribute bjtoto share to bjland shareholders, as he is the biggest shareholders of bjland. By doing this, he will get 34% of Bjtoto share (of cos not all under his personal account, as he hold bjland thru bjcorp as well). One of the ways VT cash out Bjland asset
One thing I'm not sure about privatization. VT's total share on BJLand are hold thru several companies (bjcorp and few sendiri berhad). So in the case, if bjcorp want to privatise Bjland, does it mean bjcorp need to pay cash/ share swap with those other VT's companies ? Base on latest announcement, Bjcorp only hold 77% (direct & indirect)
bjland holds 40% of bjtoto... say, minority shareholders hold about 15% of bjland shares. if bjland distributes bjtoto shares to bjland shareholders, minority shareholders get only 6% of bjtoto shares , 30% goes to vt and related bj companies. it is possible like umw did that too. then share swap with bjcorp needs much less bjcorp shares for privatization if any.
BJLand owns about 40% of BJToto, worth about RM 1.5 billion.
Awaiting sales include: 1) Vietnam property projects, book value 200+ million and said to bring significant profits if concluded, I shall use RM 400 million. 2) Vietnam hotel sale, completed last few days, with last payment of about RM 11 million 3) Kyoto Four Season, USD 700-800 million mentioned, I shall use RM 1.5 billion
Awaiting court ruling: 1) Jeju Island, VT mentioned RM 1.5 billion, I shall use RM 500 million. 2) China property project, book value before time value impairment, I shall use RM 550 million 3) Sungai Besi land sale, can't remember how much is sought, (since government no money and VT's Dr M good buddy) I shall use RM 100 million
Total value excluding other assets in book: RM 4.5 billion
Net debt excluding BJToto's: RM 1.5 billion
Thus, assuming BJLand sold BJToto and completed deals as mentioned above, money left will be approximately RM 3.0 billion. With 5 billion shares outstanding, per share value is RM 0.60 excluding other assets in book
Err... That's why I said, "excluding" other assets in book, BJLand is worth RM 0.60 per share.
My assumption is that those assets mentioned are relatively "liquid" that can be realized within 3 years, whether its deal completed or court ruling forcing payment or sold to another investor (in this case, BJToto)
Don't hope VT will distribute BJTOTO shares to BJLAND shareholders. It will never happen in your lifetime! Let's face the reality. One thing is certain - VT never consider the best interests of BJLAND shareholders. If he did, BJLAND share price would be very much higher than now. Don't bother to estimate the intrinsic value of the share. Without doubt, the privatization of BJLAND will happen in at least 3 years from now. Why at least 3 years from now? The first step towards privatization is the disposal of BJLAND assets/projects (and final settlement of all current court cases).......
Today and tomorrow share transaction price is interesting to determine the support level at 0.185. I am definitely buying at 0.18 and treat it as FD with 3-year tenure. Remember: No contra at least in the short term horizon.
3 years timeframe, how many stuck here got the endurance n store of ammo like Unorthodox to see this thru ? Thks , Unorthodox, for some sanity here .
For Unorthodox, he is all prepared for the long haul. 3 yrs unlike most here who thinks it will be realised this year. Unorthodox, is there really Gold at the end of the rainbow ?
Could it be like the OSK Boss style of privatization, where minorities are left shortchanged n bitter in the end ? Is it a self actualisation gold kind of thing for you n not so much the financial rewards ?
VT would not offer a good price for privatization for sure! As they say, life is relative. My decision is based purely on my expected buying price of 0.180 and the resolution of our country's high debt level expected to reasonable level in 3 years' time. Meanwhile, possible global recession within one to two year is real. Bosses such as OSK, VT, etc style of privatization always result in minority left shortchanged and bitter.
BJLand is indeed undervalued based on its asset on balance sheet and what VT has claimed he would do. Unfortunately, buying at current price is a high risk, not because its assets are in doubt, but VT and his BODs are of low credibility and failure of BURSA/SC to defend minority shareholders' interests.
1. Penta's deal with BJCorp failed to assure BJLand minorities BURSA/SC/VT have acted fairly and in the best interests of minorities/all. I have posted earlier, so no use writing further here.
2. BODs projects in court case, Jeju and China, do not offer much help into knowing the company is in capable hand. Oh, not to mention Vietnam property projects that are currently on sale...
3. VT's claim of selling Kyoto Four Season "soon" only to realize that the "soon" is who knows when. Well, think VT said to conclude soon but BODs said in touch to sale, or something like that. Those interested could find on BURSA announcement...
Why want to chase investors away by posting unreliable old news, doubt info and keep promote undeliverable market value , intrinsic assets sale for such long term with mostly shareholder loss to loose pants?
KUALA LUMPUR: Tan Sri Vincent Tan Chee Yioun, the founder of Berjaya CorpBhd, has upped his stake in Caring Pharmacy GroupBhd with the purchase of 3.1 million shares from Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB). The transaction was done via a direct deal on Tuesday, according to filings with the stock exchange today by Caring Pharmacy. No details on the value of the transaction were made available in the filings. Shares in Caring Pharmacy were last traded at RM1.94 on Thursday, July 4. This is the second time in two months that Tan has acquired shares in Caring from PNB via direct business transactions. With the latest purchase, Tan has amassed 18.37 million shares, or an 8.44% stake in Caring Pharmacy. He is the third-largest shareholder in the company behind PNB. The major shareholder of Caring Pharmacy is Motivasi Optima Sdn Bhd with a 50.35% stake in the company. Meanwhile, PNB's stake has been reduced to 20.9 million shares, or 9.6% after the latest disposal. In May, PNB sold 3.75 million shares in Caring Pharmacy to Tan in two transactions. Tan was one of the substantial investors in Caring Pharmacy before the company went public in 2013.
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Posted by unorthodox > 2019-07-03 13:09 | Report Abuse
Yes, no repeated posting of old announcements please!
Very irritating and it wont help in price movement!