Evergreen loses shine long ago. Too much to list out it's problems that caused it degraded to this worst state.
Profit margin continue to be eroded with inconsistent earnings. All the yoy profit growth have been negative for 7 straight quarters.
Worst is that it has huge pile of borrowings from banks amounting to RM 217,296,000 now and these borrowings were increased from RM 205,257,000 yoy a year ago that is 5.87% yoy increase in borrowings for the wrong reason. Take a look
Cummulative net profit for 2013: -42,776,000 (loss making) Cummulative net profit for 2014: 170,000 (kacang earnings) Cummulative net profit for 2015: 92,561,000 (amazing but sun setting thereafter) Cummulative net profit for 2016: 71,679,000 (-22.56% yoy) Cummulative net profit for 2017: 45,192,000 (-36.95% yoy)
Too much competition and costs of production rising, do u expect it's future earnings to be as rosy anymore? If management is smart, better pare down borrowings otherwise it will get messy in future when earnings keep degrading but borrowings ballooning.
Jupiter if my accusation is false, I've nothing to say but clearly something is not right with such huge debts where the incompetent founder son Henry Kuo has to resign last year and reshuffling of the audit committee and brought in MADAM NIRMALA A/P DORAISAMY. Definitely an integrity issues in company's accounting.
Passed by the factory at nine pm. Chimney emitting smoke. That means factory running at nite. Up to u all to deduce. Factory at Allgreen Segamat Industrial Park. Bulk of the loans used up in this factory.
haha... Mauxi the joker + hater... what a good clown show again...
1) First, he said evergreen will post a loss in the previous few quarterly reports.. he mentioned a few times... somemore with so-called insiders news.. haha.. ended Evergreen never posted a loss at all, with profits all the time...
2) then he said Evergreen is going to bankrupt.. wow.. he even heard the management quarrelled with the major shareholders (which are themselves).. So jupiter is right, he thought others are phycho like him who can quarrel with ownselves...
3) when proven to be a liar by Jupiter.. he quickly changed his tone... talked about loans.. which I had clearly mentioned earlier.. look at their CAPEX spending over the past few years.. they had spent almost all CAPEX now.. that means their cashflow will be much better going forward that they can reduce loans...
come on la Mauxi.. wanna spread fake news also do better homework la... what a clown.. haha
LMAO this dolly is really shameless keep talking from 1.00 to now. U think people kenot read ur stupid past comments ah? Tak malu one meh? Can giv u an Oscar for being sohai hollander. Who is da clown now?
Oppoosssss yaya.... new low liao... if more cheaper than top up lor.... im paper loss little bit nia... tat day got 1 bro said lower than 40 good entry
Need no introduction also everyone have eyes to read and know this kasinathan is also another shameless hollander who keep singing the same tune. Other than get stuck in this famous crawling down evergreen or should we say it is a scuba diver? It's amusing this idiot also started to appear on 8 feb this year only. Ouch must be too smart thinking it may rebound but too bad gone bad
Ya. No sign of bottom up yet. I rather miss it. There are more than thousand counters in bursa. I don't understand why some sorchai die die stick to it.
@moneykj bro.... when sign of bottom up can let me know r.... tqvm... actually i got buy in early 77... but little bit nia... tat time test warm only... need top up more when more cheaper.... hehe...
Mauxi,why keep talking bad about Evergreen? The company top management owe U a lot of money ? Even the profit margin n profit before tax is lower in these 2 quarter, Evergreen still making profits ....
Mauxi...I just taking about facts here ya... first of all, Henry Kuo is not a founder son. He is described as the GRANDSON of the founder. His position is non executive, non independent director. So he is not involved in the day to day running of the company. Not sure how can label him as being incompetent when he is not involved in the operations, be it good or bad results. He resigned from audit committee and remained as a director. I think the reason for that is new corporate governance rules where only INDEPENDENT directors can be in the audit committee. As Henry is related to the Kuo family who runs the show, he is considered non independent so he voluntarily resign in compliance with good corporate governance rules. Lastly, Evergreen brought in Ms Nirmala as an independent director again in accordance with good corporate governance by having 50:50 ratio of independent vs non independent directors ratio PLUS boosting it's ratio of women directors. Again, to me, Evergreen mgmt is showing their integrity and transparency by following good corporate governance guidelines and being a good corporate citizen.
I asked all to sell when the price at peak 2.49(after adjusted price 1.66) in Jan 2016 after I hv sold all. Now the price at discount 1.16.
Stock: [EVERGRN]: EVERGREEN FIBREBOARD BHD Jan 18, 2016 12:33 PM | Report Abuse
Chance to sell. 2.49 is the max.
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Since then I hv seen many sorchai cheer leaders came out to promote. One by one beaten off by the declining share price. Like changing baton. Starting in high spirit, at the end silently walk off. I'm sure kasi and dolly sorchai will follow suit.
maxlee0508 @moneykj bro.... when sign of bottom up can let me know r.... tqvm... actually i got buy in early 77... but little bit nia... tat time test warm only... need top up more when more cheaper.... hehe... 14/03/2018 19:39
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The share price started to climb from 0.33(adjusted price) in end of 2014. You may start to buy at 0.40 and avrg down. If lucky you may get v shape rebound. If the rebound is u shape you may need to wait 1 or 2 years consolidation before start to climb.
haha... Mauxi = mooxi.. the bomoh king... while Jupiter and I gave solid facts about the company... he keeps spreading wrong info (eg.. Henry Kuo)... this sounds very familiar to me as the previous idiot (starperformer) also mentioned about Henry Kuo...
same person using different ID again ya... haha... ok, hater started to use all fake news (bankrupt, debts alot bla bla bla) to sabotage...
i will say it once more, wont repeat in future (dun have time for idiot like u)
1) debt - we will see debts being paid down as most of the CAPEX is done over the past few years.. proof: look at the capital commitment in quarterly report... oh ya... idiot dun read report, just sabotage
2) bankrupt? making profit and no cash flow issue, how to bankrupt.. oh ya.. hater no common sense, no accounting knowledge...
btw, i cannot predict the price will go how low.. but i think the current price is almost bottom...
Looks like Evergreen is bottoming after a lengthy sell down.
Most of the Capex had already been utilised. Going forward there wont be huge Capex that will impact on its future cashflows.
So starting FY 2018, I expect Evergreen to generate good increasing positive cashflows as the investments made will position the company to earn higher gross margins/higher profits.
The Risk Reward now favours a Risk On bet on Evergreen's improving future financial performance.
It is trading at a respectable n reasonably undervalued PE at current price of 52 cts.
Market will rerate Evergreen upward as its EPS n future cashflows continue to improve
Improving positive future cashflows will enable the company to pare down its debts which was incurred to stregthen n empower the company's future earning capacity
Stock price reflect a company. U think the profits are real? Obviously they falsifying accounting. That is why they change the entire audit committee starting from founder's grandson Henry Kuo last year and the rest of the audit committee members this year. Check urself below each
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Posted by Mauxi > 2018-03-08 10:45 | Report Abuse
Evergreen loses shine long ago. Too much to list out it's problems that caused it degraded to this worst state.
Profit margin continue to be eroded with inconsistent earnings. All the yoy profit growth have been negative for 7 straight quarters.
Worst is that it has huge pile of borrowings from banks amounting to RM 217,296,000 now and these borrowings were increased from RM 205,257,000 yoy a year ago that is 5.87% yoy increase in borrowings for the wrong reason. Take a look
Cummulative net profit for 2013: -42,776,000 (loss making)
Cummulative net profit for 2014: 170,000 (kacang earnings)
Cummulative net profit for 2015: 92,561,000 (amazing but sun setting thereafter)
Cummulative net profit for 2016: 71,679,000 (-22.56% yoy)
Cummulative net profit for 2017: 45,192,000 (-36.95% yoy)
Too much competition and costs of production rising, do u expect it's future earnings to be as rosy anymore? If management is smart, better pare down borrowings otherwise it will get messy in future when earnings keep degrading but borrowings ballooning.