60 sen is merely a fair value for the company considering the latest performance. It is not spectacular by any means. Even if the company can make 20 mil a year if they continue on this so called turnaround it will give the company a p/ e of 14 which is still quite pricey compared to some of it's more consistent peers. Until there is some consistent track record , it is a one off performance which is still very low compared to Tambun. This is what the market thinks and that's why share price is not going up. It is fully valued despite the latest quarterly profit.
I follow trend to invest ma. In fact, few months back, I thought plantation stocks would have gone Holland due to massive planting taken placed 2 to 3 years ago. The excess supply would flood the market this year onward. Who knows dry weather and potential El Nino joined the game. I have almost changed my entire portfolio structure. It is a very good opportunity to whack plantation counters now.
I don't enjoy much abalone or bird nest. What I enjoy is treasure hunting. We will be able to hunt the treasure swiftly through sharing of information.
Don't waste time promoting this company . All indications that their high end mega project will not do well . Sp setia latest result already shows that. Mah sing will be next
I have checked earlier postings and noticed how you cursed other fellow members for their view on ivory. Your hatred for the major shareholder (for whatever reason) had clouded your mind and poison your heart.
I am open minded towards different view. If the pudu deal is badly done, I would cash out. Why should I defend them for something that doesn't make sense ? I have no emotional attachment to any stock
Whether or not the mega project will really ruin the small-mid cap developers is often in my mind as this represent a great transformation from the company to change from the "Ikan Bilis" to "Landmark" player in the industry and this require a bold vision from the management as well as support from shareholders.
Before I go on further,I need to tell that I am not a shareholders of this company yet but Ivory has been in my watch list since I noticed that they are aggressively expanding when I saw it through the Penang world project. I am not holding it for now is not because I do not like their business model just that they have not reached the price that I required which I think could compensate for the risk and efforts as well as required returns.
Growing company from mid to big scale is not easy as this required big fundings as well as taking into account of business risk (project cant generate reasonable sales),and thus borrowings are unavoidable.The gearing level will further increase if Pudu land deal are passed as they do not have enough cash in developing it.
All this represent (financial and business risk) negatives aspect of the company. To add further,both of this project will definitely be impacted as governments measure to tackle mid-high price prop (future 1 years annual results may not good,possible) and but all this will be temporary.
Coming back to the investment aspect,I regard this stocks as a high-growth stocks and all this depends on the company ability to coming out with the project that meets market criteria (from requirements as well price). I am even suspect there may be further cash call via private placement or rights issues to accumulate more moneys as I think their cash flow ability are not feasible but all this should not be problem if you believe in the company management.Invest in this company is like riding on the Bold Dream of the company management.
When the price is right,I will definitely support this vision as there are not much company have such vision. Whether the megaproject will really drives the company future growth, currently all this is still a doubt,the only things we can do is only tracking their sales closely and wait for the right price if you wish to participate in this company.
When all dust have clear, I think we will never see the price at this level.
I am still waiting for opportunity. For those who have bought the shares,just hold and wait for 3 years and we can see whether it is a "trap" or a fruits.
I have gone through many rounds of debates with other forum members. We have torn apart the company to examine each and every parts (please refer to ealier discussions at this thread)
I believe I have reached a saturation point as far as public information is concerned. No further amount of analysis can help me to mitigate my risk.
All I can do now is to wait for them to report their quarterly. Let the results speak for themselves
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Posted by impartiality > 2014-03-03 10:08 | Report Abuse
60 sen is merely a fair value for the company considering the latest performance. It is not spectacular by any means. Even if the company can make 20 mil a year if they continue on this so called turnaround it will give the company a p/ e of 14 which is still quite pricey compared to some of it's more consistent peers. Until there is some consistent track record , it is a one off performance which is still very low compared to Tambun. This is what the market thinks and that's why share price is not going up. It is fully valued despite the latest quarterly profit.