Mr Ooi looks like you are also into fengshui, wear more red/orange then to bring on the Bing fire. Khsb is indeed a good start to the new year, I am thankful for the angpao.
The land in Sungai Buluh is near the MRT station, this land also worth a lot of money. Using the land cost to revalue this stock, at 0.76 is dirt cheap. If this company is not owned by Selangor govt, the share price will fly. The land in Pulau Indah and Sungai Buluh are worth more than 0.76.
Thanks Mr. Ooi for your rational advice and feedback. We need more ppl like you in this forum. We have many talking craps n shits in this forum! Hope there are more like you for the benefit of all!
Dear Mr Ooi, as I've said in a previous thread: the unconditional generosity of people like yourself and kcchongnz is what makes you a success. There will always be people in this world who are addicted to misery and who lack the capacity to take responsibility for the decisions that they make. That is why they look to blame others when they have made a bad decision. Be grateful when you come across people like this because they should remind you that you are the exact opposite of them! May you prosper greatly in this year
Mr Oii Teik Bee, could i ask u, 1. when do u think the price will be near 0.76 , say 0.745 may be?
no 2 is for loss the of today transaction, could u figure out for me/us , why do u think all the funds/investor, in the midst of contra buyer/sellers, don't snap the chance when it is now as low as 0.635, or do they think for the next day of trading for lower cost of buying?
and 3rd, last one , Do u think market is not confident of the deal or because of sentiment or what?
Would appreciate your comment on how you see market reaction when announcement of Parlaiment dissolved ( say Feb 22 ). From what I gathered, most Funds do not like uncertainty, so there will be a fall. Voting rumoured to be on 30 th March.
As a player from 1978, I agree that contra play is very dangerous as market swings unexpectedly in the short period. To expect to make lots of money, say >30% per year, DY of >10% is too much, but yet at a recent T3B System forum, that is what young people wants!!
On that note, is it wise to sell off Non performing shares tho at a big loss now, and with that money concentrate on active shares which have fallen after dissolution of parlaiment, and make up for the loss. Eg-(Losers-- Rce capital, Fajar-WA,Malton, etc) . Active - Pres Bhd,Pantech, etc.
Can we base our buying selling on Feng Shui, as it says second half better? In 2008, mkt rebounded after 6-9 mths from election.
Tq very much Mr Oii, sorry i want to ask u again about..today there is negative perspective at first page of NST, they said they analysts said : 1.the deal is confusing 2. the deal is to bailout khsb 3. the intention of the deal is not clear and has no purpose 4. the deal is a deal of buying KHSB from KPS, which is already a subsidiary of KDEB, meaning no purpose also 5. the deal is political 6. the deal could be off when/if BN take back Selangor after election 7. they also said the surge is temporary 8. they also said/advise who has the share to sell 9. they also said whoever one to make profit it is abit hard 10. it will be above 0.70 but temporary Sorry Mr Oii, they gave it boldly like that, check NST,... i know NST is a piece of shit, saying that...such as Permaju get more than RM1 billion logging right , this and that and so on...but they really want it to fail, 11. what do you think the perception of readers who read it 12. and , sorry 2nd last question , don't know how to make decision, some ask from where is KDEB going to fund this big cash deal 13. Lastly could the deal executed within time frame from the dissolution of parliament to election day? i hope u can give me/us detailed explaination, sorry Mr Oii for to much of this.
Posted by Maria Kamaruddin > Feb 16, 2013 12:40 PM | Report Abuse
I STILL THINK IT A BAILOUT..BE CAREFUL
Dear Maria Kamaruddin,
Below is the list of large piece of land in Selangor owned by KHSB :-
1,196 acres in Pulau Indah worth RM 1,196 Million @ 1 mil/acre 9.9 acres of land in Section 14 PJ worth 50 Million @ 5 mil/acre 4,975 acres of land in Berjuntai Bestari worth 498 million @ 100k/acre 285 acres of land in Bestari Jaya worth 570 million @ 2 mil/acres
Total value = 2,314 million Total debt = 586 million Paid up capital = 450 million
Net worth = 3.84 / share
Please note that KDEB is buying at 0.76 / share, is it a bailout ?
To me, it is dirt cheap for KDEB to buy at 0.76 per share.
I only count the large pieces of land, there are 57 pieces of land owned by KHSB in 2011 annual report.
The land in Bestari Jaya is near Sungai Buloh MRT station, hence I value at 2 million per acres.
Assume I am only 50% correct in valuing the land price of KHSB, the price per share should be 1.92 / share.
Maria Kamaruddin, please get your fact right. Is it a cheap sale or bailout ?
u are right Mr Oii, NST is cheapskate talking without any solid argument, what type analysts do NST refers to. So u told this is about credibility, u're right, i just hope i can share my opinion:
1. KDEB owns 60% of KPS, KHSB is >59% owned by KPS, and also wned by PKNS and other KDEB subs 2.NST cheapskate don't give fair analysis, not like an economic analyst just talking about losses for 4 years, hiding about the assets/lands 3. If really it is true that it's bailout or political, who cares, what is important is the deal...they never consider that? stupid NST 4. They ask people to sell, if the deal is done later, they will keep quiet... bloody, i hope some who knows can make reports against NST for many false news and analysis they'd reported 5. Your saying about the selangor gov to build reasonable/ cheaper for the rakyat, this is big prob for the selangor rakyat, not many can buy houses at RM300,000 or more, and i doubt many can even buy house at RM200,000. This is to build the image/ and truly for the rakyat because no one losing. 5. The biggest think as reported in The Star yesterday is the Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil himself...himself... who announced about the proposal. and everybody knows that he is not kaki putar while he's in politics or corporate, i'm not supporter of pkr pas dap bn mca nor mic, just a fact , as i recognized for what najib had done to prosper our economy. Thanks Mr Oii...the faster the deal the better don't u think? 16/02/2013 16:43
You write, 5. The biggest thing as reported in The Star yesterday is the Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil himself...himself... who announced about the proposal.
I did not read newspaper in Malaysia, from the above statement that Menteri Besar Tan Sri Khalil announced this news, I am very sure this deal is 100% sure will be a true one.
You guys really convinced me to hold till $0.75 , selangor MB is a respectable man ,he has the raykat welfare close to his heart, that's the reason why he wants to consolidate the water concessionaires to save the raykat from paying higher rate for water. Hats off MB.
10 days mean 10 working days right? wait for the bonus. since the fund manager already back from holiday. even fund manager not buying, KPS will keep buying at cheap price to have majority share for future take over.
khalil cakap je, politik, kalau bn bubar sekarang pun selangor takkan bubar lagi selagi belum siap deal... Khalil yg announce kat dlm star, dgn perkataan dia sendiri... semua kdeb, khsb, kps bawah khalil... kenapa pula tak boleh deal, lagipun mungkin beribu org pkr dah tau awal... umno pakai xox,tiger sama patimas, tapi ini pkr ...cuma sangkaanku bukan tuduhan ya, lagi hebat pakai terus counter yg naik dr 38 sen jadi 76,...ini lagi hebat, tak yah deal dgn tokay2, makan pun besar berkali ganda fikirku berbanding tiger patimas xox, pkr pun nak budget utk election expenses...he he he
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Posted by Rose > 2013-02-15 09:58 | Report Abuse
Hi Mr Ooi Teck Bee, KHSB takeover price is 0.76 and yet got sellers at 0.61 ,how do you see this, the exercise going through or falling through? tq