Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-22 22:02 | Report Abuse

@4453. 无业

Posted by yeochingu > 2020-05-22 22:23 | Report Abuse

rajachulan yeochingu > May 22, 2020 7:42 PM | Report Abuse

https://ibb.co/rc9Z9yX

虽然这与我无关，但是我有必要分享这次share buy back的一些事情

Bursa 的规定是公司大股东加在一起不能超过75%

上图右边是share buy back之后大股东们的%
是在78.46%
这导致大股东必须卖了一些股票，他们才可以share buy back

Bursa没有规定不可以超过75%。。。只是超过了就除牌。。。 不然老陈杨二代怎么搞收购叻？
22/05/2020 9:21 PM

对，会除牌
这也证明了ecoworld 没有要私有化
他们在准备着share buy back
没关系，下个礼拜跌就是我再进场的时候，跌吧宝宝

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-22 23:02 | Report Abuse

师父啊，我是第一期的拉曼毕业生。
人生苦短，我家8兄弟姐妹只剩下5个了。我在李显龙的老婆其下的公司干了25年才回来大马等死的。从supervisor升到senior commercial executive 也经历了很多苦头和心酸。我对Marine 和Gas & oil 有点了解。我以前要应付上司，顾客和承包商. 时不时都要出国。吃喝玩乐少不了，有苦也有乐啊。目前无业游民。
我就得意的成就就是两岸都有个老婆，老婆和财富一样，有多也不嫌多，你说是吗？

Posted by alexsee > 2020-05-22 23:10 | Report Abuse

前两天最高去到0.435，这是第三次带量上攻到0.43 -0.44，以为会上到0.45-0.46才卖等回调，没卖到，今天又再次下攻0.38-0.385的support.. 只能看不能买，哈哈！ 好吧，请重复 0.38 - 0.44 - 0.38 -0.44 多几次，

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-22 23:21 | Report Abuse

alexsee,这里是要玩快的，快进快放的，不可以守的。

Posted by abang_misai > 2020-05-22 23:25 | Report Abuse

Salcon’s Leong kena margin call. Hehe

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-22 23:40 | Report Abuse

Misai, you have any good lubang ?

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-22 23:42 | Report Abuse

@4453. 老婆，我一点也不懂，因为我还是单身！我这辈子，在赌场，在社会，都给人叫过老千，千骗万骗就是不敢骗女人的感情，知道自己惹不起。我这种人，十多岁，就跟家人讲我不可以结婚的，不然家庭成员们都会很惨的。现在自由自在，没情债，儿女债，没有工作，自己找多少就花多少，今日有酒今日醉，虽然我也二十多年不喝不烟了。

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-22 23:52 | Report Abuse

@4453. 年轻时，跑过玩过拼过啸过赌过喝过，现在反而什么都不想做，天天做在家里坐。其实人就是生命的过客，体验过，再想回头，其实一切都不重要了，因为往事只能回味，是对是错也不外如此。
好像要死那样！？！？！哈哈哈.......

Posted by yeochingu > 2020-05-23 01:43 | Report Abuse

22-May-2020 Insider DATO' LEONG KOK WAH (a substantial shareholder) disposed 30,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.

22-May-2020 Insider MR LIEW TIAN XIONG (a substantial shareholder) disposed 10,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.

22-May-2020 Insider ECO WORLD DEVELOPMENT HOLDINGS SDN. BHD. (a substantial shareholder) disposed 30,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.

22-May-2020 Insider TAN SRI ABDUL RASHID BIN ABDUL MANAF (a substantial shareholder) disposed 30,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.

Total Disposed 100,000,000 shares
Approximately 3.4% of total shares
After share buy back,
Major share holders will hold Approximately 78.07%
exceed 75%
78.07%-75%= 3.07%
In such an event, Sinarmas Harta Sdn Bhd will be required to undertake a mandatory offer pursuant to the Code.
This the reason why they disposed their shares today.
They need to make sure their shares are not exceed 75% in order .
Now, Ecoworld Development Group Berhad is eligible to buy back their own shares.
Hope they will press down the press first so that I have second chance to re-enter.

According to their Share Buy Back Proposal Statement, (price 0.410 )there is an extreme dislocation
between their company’s share price as compared to their group’s latest unaudited net asset per
share of RM1.55 as at 31 January 2020, arising from the precipitous fall in share prices.

It was my mistake to sell my shares due to panic and the negative market sentiment today.

Posted by yeochingu > 2020-05-23 01:51 | Report Abuse

今天接了3%股量人将会面对一场Share buy back战，公司会先压后买回?还是直接带大家搭上顺风车?
其实对大家都不重要，最重要是，公司的方向是要往上推，推回公司的价值
根据公司的报告，1.55 NTA是他们的理想价位
现在0.400需要X4

10%的股票将会被回购
股数会减少，EPS会增加，PE会变少

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-23 08:04 | Report Abuse

Ah Gu,不要拿NTA给别人假象咧。
东西不能只看表面

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 09:04 | Report Abuse

@sunsetC. 如果老千叫你买股，你就卖股吧，因为股价要跌了。如果老万叫你买股，你就快快卖空吧，因为股价很快就崩盘了。
散户们不是贪得无厌的话，大户又怎能荣华富贵呢！这是人性。时代会变，人性是不会变的！

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-23 09:08 | Report Abuse

@apalumau 这些听听就好了，我倒是有另外看法。只不过不可以来看NTA来作为看股票理想价位。如果这样就没有穷人了。
不过下半年贱世就会有好戏看了，来一个大涨看好戏。

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 09:26 | Report Abuse

@sunsetC. 哈哈哈，我从来没说过贱世不能买，也从没说过贱世没能起，只是时间可能长了点而已。要赚刘家的钱，可没那么轻松简单的，信我这句！嘻嘻嘻.......
说到高NTA股项，可以看看成功股股们和乐天大腾，高到你怕，跌到你脚麻。

Posted by JediMaster > 2020-05-23 10:32 | Report Abuse

Run

Posted by tuapuikia > 2020-05-23 11:07 | Report Abuse

holy shit!!

Posted by tuapuikia > 2020-05-23 11:08 | Report Abuse

still good earning doing bad time

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-23 12:23 | Report Abuse

师父，你错了，2020后，年代变了，时代会变，人性也开始变了，变得不可理解，由其是Bursa里的交易，在也不不按牌理出牌了，要快也要准。


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@sunsetC. 如果老千叫你买股，你就卖股吧，因为股价要跌了。如果老万叫你买股，你就快快卖空吧，因为股价很快就崩盘了。
散户们不是贪得无厌的话，大户又怎能荣华富贵呢！这是人性。@sunsetC. 如果老千叫你买股，你就卖股吧，因为股价要跌了。如果老万叫你买股，你就快快卖空吧，因为股价很快就崩盘了。
散户们不是贪得无厌的话，大户又怎能荣华富贵呢！这是人性。时代会变，人性是不会变的！
23/05/2020 9:04 AM，人性是不会变的！

Posted by rambolee > 2020-05-23 13:06 | Report Abuse

i dont understand
the filing show 100M share disposed in total?
but 22/5 only 20M+ share transacted
??

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 13:16 | Report Abuse

@4453. 人的想法和手段可能会变，但是人最内心里只有恐惧和贪心，自古以来都是一样。不是人家说招数不怕旧，最重要是受！
*个人看法。

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 13:35 | Report Abuse

@4453. 蝴公珠，法庭电话，神医骗案，就是用人的恐惧干案。网上赌博，外国投资，洗黑钱，就是看准人的贪念。三四十年也有人不断中招，上报纸。大家都奇怪，怎么那么简单的手法，也骗到人。
这就是人性的弱点。

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 13:44 | Report Abuse

@4453. 我二月多就开始收乐天了，也介绍给很多熟朋友，结果没人买，有的说等五毛，有的说公司要倒，有的说病毒不买。结果只有你一个傻瓜跟我买进而已。乐天上了1.82之后，大家突然觉得可以买，问我还可以吗，结果我说现在不要买。你说奇怪吗？？？
一块出时，拿7分利息，也怕，算了吧！

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 14:23 | Report Abuse

@4453. 17年前，我看中avenue-wa，当时三十多分跌着下，到跌破15分后我才进场，结果越跌越买，买到7分还在买，什么蓝筹股中型股也卖完来买它。经纪后面说，我快完蛋了。
同样的，我也是介绍给熟朋友们买进，结果一直给人笑神经病。当时，买的数量已经进30大凭单持有股东了。最后有个朋友信我，在11分时买了10粒。
之后一阵子，就一直扶着上了，到16分时我叫他加注，他说够了。就这样一直上到26分，我开始卖了，我也通知他，他也跟着卖。沽清后，这wa真是价量齐升，冲到35分。朋友后悔了，说太早卖，听人说会上到五毛呢，可以买回吗？
我告诉他，你要买回，你的钱你作主，我肯定不会买了，也不看了。听说他买回，还大数量呢。一年后，avenue-wa一看，才8分而已，最后公司买回十张换一母股，当时母股四十多分。我没兴趣也不理了。

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 14:30 | Report Abuse

@4453. 我不懂那朋友最后怎样，可能赢吧。不过我知道自己要多少，能力在那里。整套身家买一个wa，压力多大。当时我卖的时候，有些股友知道，他们都说: ‘老兄，好眼光喔，怎么没跟我讲？"’。哈哈哈...... 不是说我要走佬的吗？
故事又讲完了！嘻嘻嘻！

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 14:42 | Report Abuse

@4453.当年的情况，想回头，如果真的avenue-wa没起过，跌到半分，变废纸，我的人生也要改写了。可能是运气好或是老天要帮我，我不懂，但是现在那股自杀般的勇气，现在没了，不敢也输不起！可能人老了，不中用吧！哈哈哈！

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 14:57 | Report Abuse

@4453. 你会奇怪，我怎么看中avenue-wa呢？因为当年认识一个安哥，他跟我说他认识avenue里头的其中一个董事，他们都很烂赌的，时常到结群到外国赌场赌钱的，所以每隔几年就会大炒一轮的，一句话整个投资组合都不要了。
想回都有点怕怕！

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 15:12 | Report Abuse

@4453. 当年我用我爸的户口来买，那本常年报告来了后，才发现做了凭单30大股东，排在第26位，我爸好像做了什么光宗耀祖的事那样，到处拿给亲友们看，真的买股那么久，还是第一次呢！哈哈哈！

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 15:19 | Report Abuse

@贱世铁粉们. 刘家的人烂赌吗？？？啊哈哈哈哈哈哈..........

Posted by mushroom > 2020-05-23 15:22 | Report Abuse

启示就是找一家公司有烂赌的股东蛤？哈哈哈

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-23 15:25 | Report Abuse

@4453. 以前听说马婆雷公的儿子也是很烂赌的。

Posted by pathfinder > 2020-05-23 17:26 | Report Abuse

Anyone knows why both Leong and Liew jr sold 15 and 10 million shares?

Posted by mf > 2020-05-23 17:28 | Report Abuse

22-May-2020 Insider DATO' LEONG KOK WAH (a substantial shareholder) disposed 15,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider MR LIEW TIAN XIONG (a substantial shareholder) disposed 10,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider ECO WORLD DEVELOPMENT HOLDINGS SDN. BHD. (a substantial shareholder) disposed 15,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider TAN SRI ABDUL RASHID BIN ABDUL MANAF (a substantial shareholder) disposed 15,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider MR LIEW TIAN XIONG (a company director) disposed 10,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider TAN SRI ABDUL RASHID BIN ABDUL MANAF (a company director) disposed 15,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.
22-May-2020 Insider DATO' LEONG KOK WAH (a company director) disposed 15,000,000 shares on 22-May-2020.

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-23 20:26 | Report Abuse

before buy back to they have to sell if they are
(ecoworld) holding more than 75% of total amount or Or else they have to privatized heir company. or because of certain rule in Bursa. to comply. correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by pathfinder > 2020-05-23 22:07 | Report Abuse

The directors own slightly over 60%.

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-23 23:21 | Report Abuse

Substantial shareholder才拥有差不多70%。

Posted by pathfinder > 2020-05-24 09:19 | Report Abuse

What I fear is privatisation

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-24 09:59 | Report Abuse

@pathfinder. ecoworld got roughly 3 b shares, NTA 1.55, debts 4 b. if take private means bosses take the 4b, do u think it is possible.......
3b x 1.55 - 4b = 650 M.
@4453. 还是你厉害，算到它值两毛！！！哈哈哈........

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-24 10:08 | Report Abuse

@4453. 口袋的一块钱，八毛是别人的，老刘赌到比我们凶千万倍啊！嘻嘻嘻！

Posted by pathfinder > 2020-05-24 10:26 | Report Abuse

I hope they don't privatise because it's a good business although the share price is really lousy.

Posted by abang_misai > 2020-05-24 10:30 | Report Abuse

Under Tan Sri LKS, this company will thrive and will be the best of the best developer when the time comes.

It’s because of the negativity taking place now, you can get ecoworld & ewint at 0.40. When the times are good, you can triple your gain.

All you need is “buy and hold” for 5-10 years.

Posted by bahai4453 > 2020-05-24 13:44 | Report Abuse

If you're holding just below 1 or 2 lots ,then you may just put there for 5-10 years. Otherwise do you think it is wise to do so ? If Ecoworld have the same capacity and generosity like Genting or Ajimoto I don't mind to buy and keep there for 5-10 years. For the last 6 years they showed you nothing, even though they are profit making company and expanding.

LKS is too greedy or too big-hearted to expand his empire within a short times. I don't think he is not aware of supply and demand theory. Did he made a survey on how many Malaysians are homeless and can't even afford a merely 200k first home to own. I just don't want to talk about LKS high-end and best housing properties where the house owners still have to pay and pay beside the basics households bills and taxes.

There are too many factors to deter our nation to turn into a developed nations and progress. Indo-China nations especially Vietnam will soon take over us within a couple of years . Very soon Myanmar and Indonesian will follow. Ask yourself why ? The answer to it is very simple -- One country and one people. If there is no one Malaysia and one Malaysian , we will stay as what we are now for another century if nothing is going to change.

A country will not developed with huge number of very low income groups. So, how to push up the sale for expensive housing properties ? With our political, religious and social background , can we attract more foreign properties investors ? A big question mark right !

Posted by pathfinder > 2020-05-24 14:24 | Report Abuse

Thank you both for your comments.

Posted by addy > 2020-05-24 15:02 | Report Abuse

my friend working at bank told me bank give home loan ,need 30% down payment
100 customer submit loan approved 3 customer only. bank difficult approved loan

Posted by addy > 2020-05-24 15:11 | Report Abuse

bank stop make home loan and car loan those have work permit singapore

Posted by addy > 2020-05-24 15:20 | Report Abuse

many customer cannot reach bank term condition to take loan in cmco

Posted by apalumau > 2020-05-24 16:10 | Report Abuse

@addy. govt ask bank to delay installment for 6 mth + no extra interests, it means bank got very few input of money b4 Nov. it may cause cash flow problems for banks, no wonder they r very alert in loan approvals. i heard now 2 nd hand car oso no more loans., new cars yes.
regarding 30%, it is normal now, may increase in future. little rakyat wer got, how got some many cash in hand? if got, then buy ecoworld shares st lah, hahaha..............

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-24 17:11 | Report Abuse

要看咯，不然怎么降低SRR和OPR

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-24 17:26 | Report Abuse

等多一轮OPR Cut在6,7月的时候。现在政府下重本要刺激经济。
这也是为什么最近股票Vol那么大的原因之一

Posted by SunsetC > 2020-05-24 17:35 | Report Abuse

opr cut, srr cut, share buy back, cash on hand, unbilled sales
还有其他的，自己看看吧