Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-09-08 15:59 | Report Abuse

It will play catch up again, next time.

Posted by speakup > 2014-09-08 16:03 | Report Abuse

after the RI, what price will WC be listed?

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:16 | Report Abuse

Hopefully the gap with mother closes well. At prices of mother and WB just now, and extending from the example illustration, WB at 32sen will match the return of Mother at 50sen + WC at 24sen combined. WC price is the decisive variable. If WC is not high enough, the rights + WC combo could fall behind WB %gain, say when mother is 60sen or higher.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:20 | Report Abuse

This presupposes post-RI if M=50sen, WC=24sen, WB=40sen (10 sen gap vs 12 sen today and 6sen before Black Wednesday).

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-09-08 16:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by speakup > Sep 8, 2014 04:03 PM | Report Abuse

after the RI, what price will WC be listed?
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Who knows. But our experience with WA & WB has shown that all of them will eventually play catch up with Mother.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:39 | Report Abuse

speakup,

WC quantity will be 1.7bn based on minimum subscription of rights
i.e. 3x that of WB (itself 4.7x that of WA).

factor these with respective exercise prices of 40sen (indicative), 16sen (my est.) and 29sen (my est.) and you might be able to form your own valuation of WC.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:41 | Report Abuse

DreamConqueror, do you know if WA also received an extension to its maturity date in the last RI? I am in this only 2mos and this forum has such a vvlong archive.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:47 | Report Abuse

clarification : ... from the example illustration, WB at 32sen will match the return of Mother at 50sen + WC at 24sen combined.

shd read:

from the example illustration, WB bought at 32sen will match the return of Mother bought at 45sen at such time after ex- and listing dates when Mother is at 50sen + WC is at 24sen combined.

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-09-08 16:49 | Report Abuse

Posted by L2 > Sep 8, 2014 04:41 PM | Report Abuse

DreamConqueror, do you know if WA also received an extension to its maturity date in the last RI? I am in this only 2mos and this forum has such a vvlong archive.
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WA only got extension to 2021 a few weeks ago. Before that, its scheduled expiry was 2017.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:53 | Report Abuse

ok thx. missed that info.

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-09-08 16:55 | Report Abuse

Gotta make StarBiz your staple diet, L2.

Posted by L2 > 2014-09-08 16:56 | Report Abuse

haha. munch munch.

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-09-08 17:02 | Report Abuse

As long as you don't have to compete with your dog. Hix hix hix. Haka haka haka.

Posted by speakup > 2014-09-08 17:17 | Report Abuse

TQ all!

Posted by gorla > 2014-09-17 09:29 | Report Abuse

how to convert WB to mother?

Posted by derrickinvestor > 2014-09-24 19:55 | Report Abuse

Just convert

Posted by L2 > 2014-10-04 14:11 | Report Abuse

A counterview to conversion?
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Between now and until the RI gets confirmed by Bursa, there is a case for warrantholders to not convert. The current gap to mother is 10-10.5 sen, narrowing from an even wider 13sen for extended periods recently. Prior to the counter's plunge, it was only 6sen. So, the run-up to the RI has inflicted a 4-7sen "penalty" on the warrant price.

Now if the RI eventually materialises, then there is a good case for conversion, albeit not in all cases because it does depend on the holder's average cost per warrant, the exit TP and WC price.

However, if the RI fails to go through, and one had converted prematurely, the "penalty" is realised. It would have been better to just hold the warrant to not sacrifice the recent extra gap/differential.

One contrarian's opinion only. Have a nice long weekend.

Posted by L2 > 2014-10-10 08:46 | Report Abuse

Gap yday was 10sen. Either WB holding steadier, or more likely, mother is pressed down.

Off m2u OLStocks display :

MCap EPS NAPS LACP Stock
397m -0.02 0.04 0.630 CLIQ
811m -0.03 -0.0042 0.635 REACH
670m 1.00 0.04 0.475 SONA
1.32b 14.34 0.79 0.380 SUMATEC

Are CLIQ, REACH and SONA really priced that much more than SUMA? The formers' prices also seem more stable unlike SUMA kena tekan L/R/C.

Posted by doraemon_dreamhunter > 2014-10-16 20:07 | Report Abuse

Dreamcon sudah sakit... mimpi mau jadi kaya ... HANCUR BERKECAI... his warrant be now only 20.5 cents... sikit hari lagi ini wb... jatuh bwh 10 cents just like csl

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-10-17 21:11 | Report Abuse

Apa nak sakit pulak. Gua tak macam lain orang yang mudah terikut lu punya provocations suruh cut loss.

Gua tak da jual, tak da loss. Lagi pulak gua punya starting average price 21 sen. Belum even paper loss pun. Lu tau kira ka. Lu novice newbie apa yang lu tau, woi.

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-10-17 21:13 | Report Abuse

Lu tu, tak da wang mau invest. Masuk forum bikin shhitt bikin kacau juga.

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-10-23 21:24 | Report Abuse

Sudah 25 lor. Sikit hari 30 lor.

Posted by march > 2014-10-28 22:48 | Report Abuse

But suna today ... yeah its wb is just 25 cents .... 1018200 units only worth about RM254,550. So he makes only about lower than 40k after GE till now..while still losing 120k-20k = 100k before GE.... ini macam ... macam pro yg tak pro... kahkahkah... main saham hancur...tapi... kita kasi dia chance komen pakai dia punya loyar buruk.... hahaha....old man, with a kid mentality... rock man...haha

Posted by march > 2014-10-28 22:51 | Report Abuse

Betullah tu... 21 cents... now 25... untung cuma below 40k lepas GE.... kahkah... cakap berapi... mulut penuh air liur... haha... api pun padam... haha... dc... the greatest joker of suma

Posted by march > 2014-10-28 22:53 | Report Abuse

Haha... personal loan? 150k? Byk wang lorr... rugi lagi byk dari modal... kahkahkah

Posted by march > 2014-10-28 23:16 | Report Abuse

Dont forget that it has reached 20.5 last 2 weeks...haha

Posted by march > 2014-10-28 23:42 | Report Abuse

Kid ... haha

Posted by derrickinvestor > 2014-11-07 17:44 | Report Abuse

DC still hold?

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-11-08 03:25 | Report Abuse

Of course. DreamConqueror does NOT do 'cut loss'.

Anyway, I first started at 21, so at 23 it's still positive. Just gotta wait for the next round of strong play.

Posted by L2 > 2014-11-09 10:08 | Report Abuse

Good plan. Can't wait to exclaim "(W)e're (B)ack" when the good times return.

Posted by derrickinvestor > 2014-11-12 16:42 | Report Abuse

so how dH? Hold?

Posted by L2 > 2014-11-20 12:48 | Report Abuse

Morning session buy rates quite contrasting : WB 77%, mother 32%

Posted by manmin > 2014-11-21 17:04 | Report Abuse

TP 10 cent

Posted by lcwin > 2014-11-21 23:20 | Report Abuse

Its funny why so many asking about Sumatec Warrant.I guess many couldn't bother to read the remarks given here. I already advise those holding WARRANT TO SELL OR SWITCH TO MOTHER SHARE if you still believe in Mr HS. So this round after I comment if you didn't take action then sorrylah ....smile you been sodomised by HS twice! ahahahohoh....no ky required ask sifu bukakaki how its done. and remember if you don't wash your ass can get rich ah! but need to see Naji first ok?
Ok one last time W is overprice if you want to play switch to mother. You can alway see my comment by searching for my name here to see more comments on Warrant but remember I am not a certified FA or Accountant!

Posted by DreamConqueror > 2014-11-22 16:17 | Report Abuse

I am still holding tite, Derrick. Still on my 1,010 big lots. You know me, no frekkin cut-loss stuff for me.

But you don't hv to follow me if you think my strategy is bad.

Posted by derrickinvestor > 2014-11-26 14:38 | Report Abuse

DC any update so far from Sumatec?

Posted by derrickinvestor > 2014-11-26 15:35 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-11-27 19:09 | Report Abuse

Derrick, the mark of a true warrior is that he does not cry EVEN when he thinks that he could die.

Let alone when he is convinced that he will outlive all his nay-saying enemies and that he is eventually going to fly high.

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-11-27 21:34 | Report Abuse

Yes, you sell what you hv, diimwiit dikkhead dude. You stinkin fart would sell very well, especially.

Posted by Dracular_E > 2014-11-28 20:33 | Report Abuse

Wah lau dreamhunter.

17.5 liao woh. U still hold at what price?

Posted by dreamhunter > 2014-11-29 14:06 | Report Abuse

Now, where's that AiYoYo forum-heckling, diimwiit, kiddy dikkhead dude disappeared to. Vanished into thin air. Completely and totally.

Posted by Dracular_E > 2014-11-29 19:32 | Report Abuse

Dreamhunter when r u going to my town here.
Got to prepare good b2b for u.

U belanja me one session ok.

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-12-06 16:53 | Report Abuse

Depends on what specialty your town has to offer, Eric. Aik, I go to your place, you belanja me lor. LOL

Our place has all the range of exotic talent, you know. East Asian, West Asian, East European. Even African.

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-12-08 04:02 | Report Abuse

Oh, I forgot to mention, there is also Central Asian and South Asian.

Posted by chy72 > 2014-12-18 18:08 | Report Abuse

but sumatec monther open high close low.....still have hope for wb??????

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-12-20 16:33 | Report Abuse

Of course. Why not.

Now expiry date 2018. Next year will be renewed to 2021, like WA.

Mother stock profit RM24.6 mil from revenue RM42.2 mil, for Q3, 2014.

Like this also no hope ah?

Posted by chy72 > 2014-12-21 18:56 | Report Abuse

Really renew to 2021?really?

Posted by DreamHunter > 2014-12-30 19:02 | Report Abuse

Well, if one read the papers 6 months ago, one would hv seen, that time, that WA was gonna expire in 2017.

But WA was renewed, and now it's new expiry date is 2021.

Posted by DreamHunter > 2015-01-02 09:41 | Report Abuse

WB looking nimbler than Mother so far today.

Posted by SapuMalaysia > 2015-01-30 00:02 | Report Abuse

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