Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 17:08 | Report Abuse

ok, lets not say rm10 la, rm6 still possible ? kikikikki

Posted by optimus7 > 2014-03-29 17:10 | Report Abuse

so far in the history of bursa, only 1 tech company mkt cap has breached 10billion at one point in year 2000. that is MPI. peak of rm66. now is trading at 4.00
anything beyond 5.00 is already bubble stage for such a cyclical company. the better alternative is Myeg. it would be rm10 or rm20 by end of next year.

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 17:13 | Report Abuse

myeg? how abt inari ? not yet transfer to mainboard aldy archive rm2++

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 17:16 | Report Abuse

In a nutshell, if you believe Dsonic is a superb company that still much undervalue, now CA is still cheap but of course you should try to buy after all smart investors and contra players throw down next Monday to get best price lor. Treat it as 6 months FD lor

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 17:18 | Report Abuse

Of course once ex bonus , CA conversion rate and price will be adjusted accordingly

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 17:26 | Report Abuse

feimaw , what price is consider cheap ? below 0.30??

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 17:30 | Report Abuse

Looking at so many negative comments by smart investors, got good chance next Monday morning we can buy near 30 cents lor. If that really happen, I will rest 6 months and wait to collect my return 200% lor

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 17:34 | Report Abuse

feimaw why not u buy in the first day ? below 25 cents and sold yesterday at 0.60 aldy 200% +++ maaa, juz wait 2 days, no need 6 months

Posted by Ant > 2014-03-29 17:54 | Report Abuse

formula fair value for Mother to CA
Mother - Exercise Price ÷ Ratio = CA
4.15 - 3.72 ÷ 6 = 0.072


formula fair value for CA to Mother
CA x Ratio + Exercis Price = Mother
0.54 x 6 + 3.72 = 6.96

based on the current price, mother is 50%+ cheaper than son, and if i want to Speculate i will only go in at below 0.20. if not go mother better. 100unit Dsonic is only RM400+, benefit is you could get dividen or bonus. CA? non.

Posted by Pavillion > 2014-03-29 18:27 | Report Abuse

Thank Ant and looking at umwog CA, ratio of 5:1, RM2.70, if not mistake and current mother share RM4.30, their CA only RM0.30. My question is how they determine the fair value for CA.?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 18:34 | Report Abuse

I made since bought 20 cents and sold 60 cents. That's why now I waiting to collect for FD 6 months. Look at how people trade in Nasdaq , all about potential and not base current price. If you strongly believe in Dsonic, buy CA better. Because even before expire date and mother share doubled to 8.30, you surely can sell CA 1.20 to 1.50. So, how many % return? And RM5000 can buy 10k plus unit. Say you sold 1.20 and bought at RM0.40 next Monday, already how many %? This is derived base on such a strong confidence of smart investors on mother shares mah

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-03-29 18:38 | Report Abuse

Call warrant & Put warrant is not easy to calculate, especially put-warrant.
Once must b good in financial product & had knowledge in Option, warrant, swap, future or forward.
Many of my friends & relatives won't touch warrant as they don't knw how its function.
I need to calculate risk to reward ratio for each of the call warrant before I enter the one most suit me.
=)

Posted by Yk John > 2014-03-29 18:56 | Report Abuse

I heard from ppl say the staff say dsonic will hit RM5
This month

If it is real

I think CA will continue up if mother up on Monday



All dun scare by big shark


They are smart to collect cheap with some news out

Posted by Pavillion > 2014-03-29 18:57 | Report Abuse

I know the advantages and disadvantages of CA but if Ant calculation is right, which I think he got it right. The RM0.54 is overprice compare with mother share. Incase of Umwog CA is at par with mother share. RM0.30. I just try to understand it, and not to discourage etc.

Posted by Yk John > 2014-03-29 18:57 | Report Abuse

Monday will push down by big shark

After that rebound back if mother go up

Posted by Jack Ong > 2014-03-29 19:12 | Report Abuse

Dsonic has made declaration. For further info please refer to the link below:

http://cnews.cari.com.my/news.php?id=562703&link=prev

Posted by GogoChiao > 2014-03-29 19:41 | Report Abuse

Jack ong it was declared on Friday night itself..

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 20:20 | Report Abuse

YK, if what you says is real, I need to que to buy early early next Monday morning start from 35 to 45 cents leh

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 20:21 | Report Abuse

I dun want to buy expensive one later

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 20:27 | Report Abuse

Thanks a lot YK

Posted by beLIEve > 2014-03-29 20:34 | Report Abuse

Pavillion, your understanding is correct

It's difficult to estimate a fair price for warrants. For this, 6x0.54 = 3.24. It's up to investors to see if it's worth spending 3.24 for warrants that requires another 3.72 on a mother share that's worth 4.15.

Posted by raff > 2014-03-29 20:40 | Report Abuse

Keep your cool guys. Exercise common sense and dont be thrilled... else you gonna be the donkey without a seat when the music stops...

Posted by Abudance > 2014-03-29 20:45 | Report Abuse

In all said and done, 72 sen seems the TP. Its only 3 days old lah .. You think it will drop to 30 sen for you to pick up? Ha3. There is still so call upside of 17.sen upside to 72 sen from 54 sen.
Everyone wants it to drop to 30 sen do csn have snother bull run on Monday! Ha3
If you look at their bonus time .. It's in end April. Assuming the staff says end month teach rm5, then value is about rm2.50.
Anyway.. It's a gamble. My guess Monday will end reach 62-65 sen again.
The game just started!

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 21:24 | Report Abuse

Don't lah potong steam bro. I am expecting it to go down by 10 to 20 cents so that I can buy and keep FD mah. TP 72 cents? I think short term susah lah. By end of my FD 6 months maybe 1.20 possible
by the way, Gpacket W conversion is RM1.00 if not mistaken, but why its still trading >10 cents ?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 21:41 | Report Abuse

（吉隆坡28日訊）德達飛訊（DSONIC，5216，主要板貿易）週二上市的備兌憑單德達飛訊-CA（DSONIC-CA，5216CA，主要板備兌憑單）交投火熱，但該公司特別提醒投資者，本身並非有關備兌憑單發行商，無需負上任何責任。

　德達飛訊-CA閉市報54仙，起6仙，成交量7662萬4700股。

　該公司今日向馬證交所報備，對德達飛訊-CA發行與上市一事並不知情，同時也未與該備兌憑單發行商達成合作。

　“根據公開資訊，德達飛訊董事局知悉，德達飛訊-CA將在2015年1月12日屆滿，且行使比例為6單位備兌憑單可換1股德達飛訊，行使價3.72令吉，董事局特此聲明，公司無需對這項備兌憑單負責任。”

Runn baby runn next Monday morning once market open ya.

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 21:42 | Report Abuse

Ini news memang betul, tepat dan cantik masanya he he he

Posted by Abudance > 2014-03-29 21:48 | Report Abuse

Translate that pls.

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 21:54 | Report Abuse

holly shit !! STANDBY bullet buy CA next week !! Buy at 0.25 !!!!!!!!!!!! BUY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! juzt buy, dont Q!!!!!!

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-03-29 21:59 | Report Abuse

25 cents?
I buy as much as possible.

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 22:04 | Report Abuse

u took profit liao, let other people buy la, i not yet buy, wish to get at 25 cents

Posted by Abudance > 2014-03-29 22:08 | Report Abuse

U must be kidding 25 sen ha3 it will go up may 10-12 sen and then drop again

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 22:09 | Report Abuse

janganlah begitu . go up go up ni gua potong steam lah. come down come down more more gua tunggu happy happy lah

Posted by Abudance > 2014-03-29 22:11 | Report Abuse

U want to gain feinaw, don't make others lose. It's a sin, u know to give wrong info.

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 22:11 | Report Abuse

of cos will up first on early morning, then started drop...thats the right time to buy

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 22:13 | Report Abuse

Sorry sorry. I dont mean to make every one lose. I just base on the latest comments from smart investors that Monday will turun. So I hope turun first then shoot up later same day. I want evryone to win also although I want to pick up for FD. Sorry sorry ya

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 22:24 | Report Abuse

feimaw , u mean open low, closed high? holly shit, can contra gain liao !

Posted by nsk82 > 2014-03-29 22:35 | Report Abuse

this is a clear example irrational exuberance. Don't lose your hard earned fund

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 22:38 | Report Abuse

i really dont encourage contra Eric ah Eric

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 22:42 | Report Abuse

i mean got pfofit then sell la, no need hold till 6 months,hold 1 day also can sell liao as long got profit

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 22:44 | Report Abuse

Let's standby on next Monday morning lah

Posted by Eric_BornToBull > 2014-03-29 22:49 | Report Abuse

lets stick on laptop screen on monay morning

Posted by Kukuman > 2014-03-29 23:03 | Report Abuse

You said sumatec is the biggest mistake you ever done in your life. I thought u hv learned your bitter lesson. But your gungho about the CA shows u hv not learn bitter lesson enough. It is so true speculator has short term memory

Posted by ggwp > 2014-03-29 23:08 | Report Abuse

25th dsonic-ca made it debut.

25th open 0.155 high 0.180 low 0.155 close 0.170 vol 11.997m
26th open 0.175 high 0.270 low 0.170 close 0.270 vol 95.116m
27th open 0.295 high 0.480 low 0.290 close 0.480 vol 117.060m
28th open 0.520 high 0.625 low 0.520 close 0.540 vol 76.625m

26th is the day most people start to enter (day T)

T+3 31/3 or 1/4 (Day T=27th)

Based on son convert to mother rate it is already overvalue (currently)

Profit taking next week, don't chase high just my 2cents

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:12 | Report Abuse

Thanks ggwp. Sharing is caring.

Posted by Ant > 2014-03-29 23:17 | Report Abuse

we all investor of Dsonic are confident dsonic so reach 5.0 soon, but who have ture confident she will hit 10.0 on 12/01/15 (base on no bonus issuse).

if we base on the curren net profit then Dsonic need to be increse another 150% net profit or PE80 to hit 10.0.

if 10.0 on 12/01/15
Mother - Exercise Price ÷ Ratio = CA
10.0 - 3.72 ÷ 6 = 1.04

remember, non of us want to lose money banker and the company too.

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:23 | Report Abuse

Ant, let me put it into a very simple cerita here. If you are the issuer of this cash settlement CA for such a robust price up Dsonic at only 3.72, what will you do? Look at those Apple CA , when they issue the CA, always the settlement price way way above current market price punya. What does this mean? super high risk of pay to the pants drop right ? So what will you do to hedge ?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:24 | Report Abuse

What element is easiet for the issuer to control? Can the issuer control the mother pricing where by so many people so confidence and are still chasing the motherhigher and higher everyday since 2 July 2013?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:27 | Report Abuse

Let say by jan 2015, average Dsonic price at RM8.00, with 100 million CA, the issuer have to pay (0.713-0.15) X100 million = RM 56.3 million .Mana ada orang berani issue CA loh?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:29 | Report Abuse

With 3 days total volume changed hand exceeding 300 million and assuming the "one" managed transacted 180 million with average 25 cents profit till last Friday, is about 45 million profit in hand already
. Of course that amount just good enough for sedia payong sebelum hujan if Dsonic ended RM8 by Jan 2015. How about profit target to make leh ?

Posted by Feimaw > 2014-03-29 23:30 | Report Abuse

You orang timbang sendiri the facts above and judge by yourself lah. Good 9