Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-07 18:12 | Report Abuse

我是同意杨,陈先生在这里发表对大选结果的看法。不过我想多谈几点: 1. 马来票回流国阵,不止在乡村,城市的马来票也会大举回流国阵。巫统的调查,308大选,城市马来人有50%投反对党,估计多半是公务员军警。现在不同了,民事雇员工会和退休公务员公会几个月前在布城开大会,声言大选全力支持纳吉和国阵。他们要民联停止攻击公务员,因为几年来民联不断攻击军警人员和公务员说他们贪污,腐败,没有效率,行动党还提出要把公务员减少一半,所以这次民联是不会有城市50%马来票支持了。印度票,民联也无法好像上次那样,拿到80%支持,308反风那么厉害,国阵还是有60个多数席位,10%城市马来票和印度票回流就够了(乌雪国会补选就是列子,那个补选,只有28%华人支持国阵) 2. 纳吉这几年来,一直争取华人的支持,结果如何,要看大选成绩才懂。华人是很多被误导了,只看负面没有看到国家正面的事物。很多人形容大马华人非常悲惨,样样被压迫,不过,80%中小型工商业都是华人拥有,最富有的人华人占了大半,专业人士也是华人多,房产,商业产业,不动产都是华人拥有多。 贪污滥权,好像只有大马才有,远的不说,台湾现在闹得满城风雨赖素如的贪污案,李朝卿的贪污案,数目也不小(以前陈水扁李登辉不说了)中国的谷开来薄熙来杀人都做呢,不过好像台湾报界说的,赖素如并不代表国民党马英九,谷开来也不是彭丽媛,西方国家个个债台高筑,搞到要破产?没有贪污吗?印度,巴吉斯丹,印尼,泰菲不必说了 大马政府化在人民身上的钱也不少,我们的必需品,全部有津贴,白糖,2 零吉一公斤,广州,要9 块人民币,过路费,中国更加贵,市区停车,10元人民币一小时,(广州—)猪肉,没有补贴,但是中国也不便宜,一公斤要35 到48元人民币。。汽油更不必说大马便宜的多,中国是世界第三大石油国。(?早两年的数字) 3.罪犯案件怎样,美国和印度的惊人罪犯案全世界闻名,其他印尼泰国,菲律宾。。哪里好到哪里。新德里是世界强奸之都,每年4千多宗强奸,其他城市,乡村,没有报案的不可计数了。最近一对瑞士夫妇在新德里旅游,妻子给8个人强奸,能做什么。所以我对我们华人政党,经常要替印度裔罪犯出头,非常反感。有人要讲新加坡,哈,新家坡只有广州的5分1,偷了一部车子,不懂要放在那里,环境不同,那里可以并论。 另外一点要说的是,大马东西一千多公里的海洋分开,有五十多种民族不同宗教语文,为何我们没有变成加里曼丹(印尼)泰国,菲律宾,印度巴吉斯丹,。。。几十年没完没了的种族和宗教冲突。。。虽然也有吵架的时候。 但是,华人铁了心反政府,固然反对党的宣传仇视和种族情绪,不过马华似乎没有了解华人心态。宁可要回教国也不要你们,但是,他们忽略了,民联有半数席位,国家马上大动乱(组不成政府的)生活在城市的华人首当其冲。为何动乱,到时三党就打到头破血流,争取内阁和政府各种官位,也有人排队找纳吉谈条件跳槽。一个礼拜组不成政府,股市马上暴跌,三天后,逼仓行动,又再暴跌,市场很快进入萧条,很多华人商业如餐厅之类,有一天用一天,这种行业最先倒闭。。。。。大家是股友,不必我说了,回忆1997 年就明白。

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kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-08 09:24 | Report Abuse

三个礼拜里面就知道了,不忙。不论民联成绩如何,我估计选后民联可能要解体了。

JUNBEN

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Posted by JUNBEN > 2013-04-08 09:35 | Report Abuse

所以那些国家的政府都被替换了呀。。。希望这一语惊醒梦中的你

Posted by Chooi Eng Ho > 2013-04-08 09:47 | Report Abuse

我听马来朋友说他们反风也很多

lmf_hau

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Posted by lmf_hau > 2013-04-08 10:03 | Report Abuse

Kulim Chan,

not to worry ,, as long the BN fallen ,, the new goverment will rule themselve decently.

Again, u wanto support BN = corruption , 2x standard in Education Especially into non-Malay School scorer into Local Uni or Oversea Schoolership , fake sexual harrassment video , shouting "Balik India n China" face to face ....

Since u r still dreaming to u earning in Stock Mkt ,, we can now easily trade others counter such as HK , Australia , US , Singapore , Indonesia by reading chart ....

I suggested u spend more time to study our neighbourd , Indonesia , what happen to their stock mkt performance after their 24 years Autocratic Government = Mr Suhartho collapes in the next 3 years .

Yes , Indonesia share mkt was down up in the next 3 years , after the Mr Suhartho have been changed.

But do u realise that , Indonisia GDP% is growthing approximately 8-10% every year ?

Side tracking , r u willing to see RM3.00 vs S$1 in later day ??

U dont tell much of "估计" anymore here ,
If u can "估计" accurately all the time , pls go buy 4D , which can make u rich faster than stock mkt here ..

selinelow

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Posted by selinelow > 2013-04-08 10:04 | Report Abuse

who ever the government the business will run as usual. as the big gun still the cronies.

max8

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Posted by max8 > 2013-04-08 10:18 | Report Abuse

我只是恨:我们醒觉得太晚了,国家数以千亿的财富被这些豺狼政客大肆掠夺,而我们每个人,包括正在求学和将要出生的孩子都得背负着累累国债。再不换,我们对得起他们吗?

choonhock

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Posted by choonhock > 2013-04-08 10:19 | Report Abuse

@kulimchan,

按你的说法,我们什么都不必做。 等国家被贪污滥权搞到破产?难道要像塞浦路斯那样,连人民在银行的钱都要抢?

还有, 为什么要和人家比“烂”?难道马来西亚不可以做到更好?

古人说见贤思齐焉,见不贤而内自省也。

kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-08 10:31 | Report Abuse

谁说马来西亚会完蛋?破产?说了几十年,结果国家天天向上,我们用车率是世界最高。没有钱,哪里可以。有政党轮替好的,不过,现在还没有出现这个党。现在三党为了席位问题,就已经闹翻了。有官做有钱拿,哈,哪里不乱。不要看不到,民联的朋党商业集团迅速扩张,林冠英在槟城,就好像台湾陈水扁,倪可汉在霹雳,如果不是行动党主席,哪里可以拿到吉兰丹的15000 公顷土地,算一算,一公顷棕油园每年收入多少,50年收入多少,可怜那些底层的干部,个个落得贫病交加。

不过个人怎样想法是自由,但是个人的想法不能左右大局。无知的人说新币比我们搞,你不说日元和人民币。不懂的东西不好讲。我帖子要说的是,我同意杨元庆说,由于乡村马来人(我认为城市马来人也一样)全面回流国阵,所以国阵会重掌政权。不过你是否喜欢。

lmf_hau

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Posted by lmf_hau > 2013-04-08 11:06 | Report Abuse

Kulim Chan,

I challenge u to report the curruption of Kelantan Land to our dear lovely MACC against DAP-Ni Koh Han , I would believe the BN would has highly interest to put him into jail.

But , dare u doing this ??
(For Your Info, MACC already apologize on this matter..what u barking now , are those old tricks , I really shame on u as a Chinese who pretend blindly on 2x standart by supporting our lovely BN Education Aim and Goal [hapuskan those non-malay education]).

U this BN supporter pls go ahead talk more rubbish Economic Theory in order to brain wash us ....
I can ensure u , u will fail very urgly ....
________________________________________________________________

I promised to u , my whole family 10 members , confirm support PR ,,

r u blowing me off ???

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-08 11:09 | Report Abuse

BN is still the best govt for all Malaysians

amandang

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Posted by amandang > 2013-04-08 11:12 | Report Abuse

你的国家命运,你来决定!
你的政府谁来做?你来决定!
要不要铲除贪污腐败的政权?你来决定!
要不要继续纵容滥权的政党?你来决定!
要不要继续被国阵欺骗了5年又5年?你来决定!
要不要支持改朝换代实现两线制?你来决定!
不要找借口放弃投票权,过后才来讲三讲四批评时局!
就在这一次!就在此一时!Ini Kalilah!!!

LIKE LIKE LIKE

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-08 11:12 | Report Abuse

BN is the still the best govt for Malaysians. Pakatan's manifesto will nak Malaysia bankrupt like what Anwar Ibrahim did in the Currency Financial crisis.

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-08 11:14 | Report Abuse

BN is the still the best govt for Malaysians. Pakatan's manifesto will make Malaysia bankrupt like what Anwar Ibrahim did in the Currency Financial crisis when he was Finance Minister.

max8

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Posted by max8 > 2013-04-08 11:15 | Report Abuse

To Imf_hau: he is just another newly registered net-ant of BN. Not to mention his hilarious accusation and defending. 无视无视之。

selinelow

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Posted by selinelow > 2013-04-08 11:17 | Report Abuse

the world richer man also from M'sia. u din see M'sia bankrupt. Whereas beneficy citizen u said will bankrupt M'sia. u ur brain to think lah.

simonfish

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Posted by simonfish > 2013-04-08 11:19 | Report Abuse

No, No, No.......
BN cannot believe anymore. We should support Rocket/PAss to hold our malaysia, for further & further..... remember everybody... Thanks

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-08 11:22 | Report Abuse

NO NO NO!!!
Your rocket didn't even reach the moon and the half half moon (the blue black eyes)...

The rocket has gone haywire oledi...no direction. Probably heading for the sun.

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 11:31 | Report Abuse

kulimchan,
seems like you are alone in this forum. even though, i still not able to cheat myself to support you.
if you afraid of change, then you are pity.
give PKR, DAP, PAS 50 years to see what they can do.
Malaysia rich of many natural resources but still far behind Singapore those without natural resources after Singapore independent.
you still not see the problem, debt still high.
if a person doing fault, should we also do the same fault while we know that's fault?
see what theyr did to Penang, Selangor and Perak after they loss. they detroyed all document, empty the offices. Is this call good government that you are referring to?
MCA and Gerakan are BN colony association. useless!

Sorry, i was too angry after reading your statement. You are not wrong but just not suit to the real world.
Please forgive me, and i believe god will forgive your innocent.

tc2012

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Posted by tc2012 > 2013-04-08 11:33 | Report Abuse

malaysia is almost bankrupt now lah. Malaysia will be there if BN have another 5 years.
ONLY ABU can avoid that.
You have to help yourself.

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 11:33 | Report Abuse

no argument. Just vote who you want. Let's see if those stupid chinese still vote MCA or Gerakan or BN.
And I will not readh this thread anymore, wasting my time.

simonfish

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Posted by simonfish > 2013-04-08 11:37 | Report Abuse

No, Ranger,

BN Cannot give us good thing, had better choose rocket to fly to moon.

rizal Prk

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Posted by rizal Prk > 2013-04-08 11:41 | Report Abuse

Rocket, I agree with you.. BN is the best

max8

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Posted by max8 > 2013-04-08 11:45 | Report Abuse

人生最悲哀的,莫过于自己有脊椎却不敢挺直,甘于愚驴,从来不介意被剥削者骑在脚下。

lmf_hau

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Posted by lmf_hau > 2013-04-08 13:10 | Report Abuse

Kulim Chan,

I repeated :-

晚上12点,如果你单独从你家跑去1公里外的地方,来回5次而没有被打劫,那你就无需换政府。

你家连续3天晚上10点到12点大开中门,而没印尼仔进来打劫,你也无需换政府。

Link : http://cforum2.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3053572&extra=page%3D2

lmf_hau

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Posted by lmf_hau > 2013-04-08 13:26 | Report Abuse

Kulim Chan , Ranger , Rizal Prk ,

Open your eyes and heart to read the below ,
U r welcome to google translate into any langueue u like.

你安分守己,踏踏实实努力工作多年,终于存了一些钱。

你开始想对自己好一点。

你买了智能手机。

某天你在街上讲电话,一个驾着摩托的男人,抢掉你才用了一个礼拜的SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE。幸好,因为使用一个大马智能手机回扣的RM200,你的损失减少了两百块。

你买了车子。

某天几个大汉围着你,抢掉你的车子。幸好,幸好后车座的孩子几个小时后被丢在路旁。让人送了回来。

你买了屋子。

某天回家,你家里被爆窃,警察隔天来看了,只是耸耸肩说“Sorry,我帮不到忙”。因为害怕劫匪再倒回来干案,你将家里的钥匙全换了。过了几天,你工作结束回到家,你发现,家里又被爆窃了。

你买了一大堆的养身保健品兼上健身房跳韵律操和瑜伽班。

某天你发现住家附近建起一座座稀土提炼厂、电讯塔、核能发电厂、石化厂。你的呼吸开始困难,皮肤开始红肿,更甚的是,上个月做的体检报告出来后,医生告诉你,抱歉,你已经患上末期癌症。

你问自己到底做错了什么?

你没做错什么。

你只是摇摇头,对说服你去登记做选民的朋友微笑说:政治很肮脏,我不想理。

你只是冷眼看着那些为了捍卫下一代,而走上街头的人群。

你只是由始至终把自身和孩子的权益,拱手交给一个腐败的政府操控玩弄。

你只是在每一届的大选,很聪明地利用假日在家休息或是做些你觉得重要的事情,唯独投票,永远不被列入你认为“重要”的事件清单里。

你只是什么都不做。

然后,你让一个腐败的政府,慢慢地、偷偷地吞噬掉,你原本可以完整拥有的一切。

因为,你什么都没做。

你错就错在,你什么都没做。

《你錯在,甚麼都沒做!》- Ng Mei Ching
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在面子书看到的,也献给那些打算放弃或觉得政治没什么的朋友。。。。共勉之

Link : http://cforum2.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3052149&extra=page%3D4

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-08 13:33 | Report Abuse

NO NO NO imf_hau...BN is still best for the country. Though there are weaknesses in the administration, but stil the best option for Malaysians. DAP, PAS n PKR are extremes n extremists...they can't even sit together in a round table conference to discuss critical issues. One goes north, one goes south n the other goes east.

necro

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Posted by necro > 2013-04-08 13:39 | Report Abuse

Gfhjdi5kfsuyxcuteveitdrujggijil^&$&%$%÷×**&^#&=&^*&)

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 13:48 | Report Abuse

If this forum reflects the election result. The BN loss more than 8/10 votes. Their votes came from kulimchan and ranger only.
I do not know about other states, but in Penang, DAP is the tai ko. DAP failed to win in Penang in coming election = Galaxy explode, no sun, no earth. So it's not possile at all.
I walked out that day to a malay restaurant, a lot of malay talking about election. After I walk out the restaurant, I am proud to be people of Penang because I saw no races, no religion, all like a family, with 1 objective, "UBAH"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 13:50 | Report Abuse

Necro, don't angry because of useless people. Just do our vote. Angry useless people will hurt yourself. We are smart people, not useless group.

carabao

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Posted by carabao > 2013-04-08 13:52 | Report Abuse

Vote BN = vote for corruptions, racist Perkosa, deteriorating education standard, price increases and lost of basic right.

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 14:02 | Report Abuse

KW, you are my favorite, not because of your influences but the fact you have shared. This is very important to those has brain cell who can digest and not just take it.
Our soldiers are vase not because they are vase but because of the government made them to be vase. No firm instruction given from top to down, how to make those soldiers take action? Why top not give instruction? Because they just know "eating money", "manipulate news", "manipulate result" and many more.

anbz

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Posted by anbz > 2013-04-08 14:16 | Report Abuse

wong shing sheng kow tow...helo please write in Bahasa Malaysia/English , don't be selfish , not all people know chinese mah , chong cin chong...
kamsiah, to chi, se-sei ...to-puchi. if we do not communicate between races in language everyone understand...there will not be any integration and life will be full of suspicions , there's no problem for anyone to use his preferred language... but u really must put thing in the right place...

stock5678

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Posted by stock5678 > 2013-04-08 14:28 | Report Abuse

i vote you, KW. you jump i jump :)

max8

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Posted by max8 > 2013-04-08 14:30 | Report Abuse

You have my vote too KW~

Hustle

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Posted by Hustle > 2013-04-08 14:42 | Report Abuse

Jib bai jiu ho seh liao...

jeft14

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Posted by jeft14 > 2013-04-08 14:46 | Report Abuse

voted you 100xxx times, KW

Hustle

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Posted by Hustle > 2013-04-08 14:54 | Report Abuse

Is time to have a new era,since you already test it for 50yrs,that's not necessary for our next generation continue to be slave.

kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-09 00:08 | Report Abuse

喜欢投谁总有他的理由。不谈。我是三代在吉隆坡住了,从焦赖,半山芭,武吉明登,甲洞,增江,到现在的PJ。没有那么坏啦。新加坡人移民的有56%人首选是马来西亚,因为在这些新加坡人看来大马比新加坡,澳洲等地好的多。
我对政党看法是,民联无法组织政府,他们会打到头破血流,万一伊斯兰和公正党组成政府,那么以后恐怕不会有选举了,看看中东国家的穆世林组织就懂。他们绝对不会自动民主下台。

ganasai

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Posted by ganasai > 2013-04-09 00:15 | Report Abuse

somebody enjoy too much their current environment like frog dance at cook water. no matter how, still up to your choice.

bingo

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Posted by bingo > 2013-04-09 01:35 | Report Abuse

Posted by Ranger > Apr 8, 2013 11:12 AM | Report Abuse

BN is the still the best govt for Malaysians. Pakatan's manifesto will nak Malaysia bankrupt like what Anwar Ibrahim did in the Currency Financial crisis.


My foot .Don't bullshit Pig Rider,in fact BN government is one of the most corrupted government???

bingo

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Posted by bingo > 2013-04-09 01:38 | Report Abuse

Mainstream media will never publish these photos of Pakatan Rakyat's ceremah.


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9051/papersf.jpg

bingo

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Posted by bingo > 2013-04-09 02:19 | Report Abuse

When you get your ballot paper, make sure there are NO MARKINGS made on it. If the SPR kerani wants to play funny tricks, all they need to do is to pre mark the paper (a dirty smudge or dot) and if you don't 'pangkah the same calon, its considered a spoilt vote.

Be observant, be careful and be brave enough to say 'tukar' when you know you are being cheated.


...please see picture.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1331/electionsf.jpg

kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-09 09:33 | Report Abuse

no such thing in Malaysia

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-09 09:58 | Report Abuse

Apa lah Bingo, BN is still best political group to run the country. Don't be too optimistic of capturing Putrajaya. Just your dreams and will become a nightmare.

Ranger

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Posted by Ranger > 2013-04-09 10:50 | Report Abuse

From 1969 to 2013, BN/UMNO had been led by 6 presidents viz-a-viz Tengku Abd Rahman, Tun Razak, Tun Hussein Onn, Tun Mahathir, Tun Abdullah Badawi and DS Najib.

BUT BUT BUT...

From 1969 to 2013, DAP had been led by LIM KID SIANG. LIM KID SIANG is still in greed of power even at party level. probably he'd stay in DAP until his dying day.

How can u compare the ingenuity of leaders compare with LIM KID SIANG alone? The country had been transformed from one leader to another leader. How can DAP's LIM KID SIANG transform the country alone? That mean he's a dictator.

kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-11 09:59 | Report Abuse

compare with other regional countries,Malaysia is a peaceful and prosperous country,it is not easy for a multiracial country,take a look in India,Thailand, Indonesia,Philippine ..don talk about the middle east.corruption?crime? no corruption,no crime in other countries?just talk about the western countries,now they are having big problem,countries in Europe go bankrupt one after another,can you say that they are free from corruption and abuse of power?many people keep on harping that Malaysia going to bankrupt for almost 50 years,but today ,our people are enjoying peace and prosperity ...
One reality we must know that the PR is not a political party,but its a gang up for election campaign only.the do not have common platform and political agenda .If they win the GE with marginal majority,fierce fighting will beak out immediately between the 3 parties in order to grasp power in the government .some of them,the newly elected MP may line up to see Najib,offering conditions for cross over,if new government can not be formed in one week,we will face disastrous consequences...share market and forex market collapse suddenly ..very soon we will return to the situation in 1997 or1980s.

riaz

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Posted by riaz > 2013-04-11 10:07 | Report Abuse

you are 100 % right kulimchan

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2013-04-11 10:13 | Report Abuse

Belum cuba belum tahu, sudah cuma mahu lagi.

Please give PR a 5 years term, I am very sure we can be better.

Please note that PR had proven in Penang and Selangor.

We have given 56 years to BN, we are far behind Singapore, Taiwan, HK and Korea now. We are far ahead of them in 1960. Now we are the worst among them. Please compare against the best.

"Belum cuba belum tahu, sudah cuma mahu lagi" I appeal to you all.

Thank you

max8

681 posts

Posted by max8 > 2013-04-11 10:16 | Report Abuse

KulimChan... dun walk out from the dark, the sun is too bright.

kulimchan

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Posted by kulimchan > 2013-04-11 11:15 | Report Abuse

read this:

Migration survey : Singapore 56%of them want to live in Malaysia

A survey by Mindshare carried out early this year found that a staggering 56 per cent of the 2,000-odd Singaporeans polled agreed or strongly agreed that, “given a choice, I would like to migrate”.

Interestingly, according to the report which quoted a World Bank statistics, among 300,000 of those who had migrated, 100,000 of them chose Malaysia as their new home...

The key findings :

- 62% of those polled believe that Singapore political leaders are paid too much these days.

- 65% think they will not be able to retire comfortably in Singapore.

- 72% think they cannot afford to get sick these days due to high medical costs.

- 73% think that public housing prices are getting out of hand.

- 75% think they should not be spending their entire working life paying off housing loans.

- 69% believe there are too many foreign workers taking up job opportunities in our society today.

- And 73% believe that Singaporeans should be granted priority in employment.


Reported by Sin Chew : http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/263805?tid=1

Here is a link to an English blog in Singapore : http://therealsingapore.com/content/...y-want-migrate

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