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Is the market overvalued?

Philip ( buy what you understand)
Publish date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020, 07:47 AM
Reposting my telegram musings here.

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Qqq3:
The performance of DIY and Palantir after first results inspired me to buy Miniso,  no mistake...... Didn't know make money stock market so easy one  any others?
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FYI I have sold 30% of partnership portfolio in stoneco at 100k shares@75(bought 20.5), as well as 50k shares of palantir @28.3(bought 14.6). The recent market events have given me some pause on the market results.
 
 
Philip Farms:
This is another sign of bubble, when people says making money in stock market is easy... We need to be very very careful.
 
Is s&p500 overpriced? Is it the only game in town?
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2020/08/18/us-stock-market-hits-record-77-overvalued/?sh=9390d9b358c1
 
One of the biggest metrics that Warren buffett likes to use is real work versus accounting world
 
Or in this case market cap versus GDP
 
Market cap is an illusionary figure
 
Because of artificial supply versus demand
 
A company that has very little revenue and no earnings can actually sell for more than its production value
 
We call this speculation, trading, whatever.
 
But in the real world, companies produce products or services which sells for money and that reality defines the value of a company
 
No point buying 1 million acres of land on the Sahara desert after some research reports speaks of the potential of oil and diamonds
 
If you don't see a single point of production.
 
And yet this is how the stock market works.
 
This article here then is basically telling us that the overall market caps of all the listed companies in usa is selling for almost double what the GDP is
 
From here on out there are 2 possibilities, one is that us stocks GDP will increase to meet the valuations, the other one is valuations will drop to meet the GDP
 
I am sure there are a few companies that will meet or exceed their growth targets
 
But overall .. I believe that companies will sooner or later fall back to earth
 
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
 
The thing that you have to realize as a big picture idea is that the stock market is also a commodity, like wheat, soy, bonds, gold, btc etc
 
For the mass majority, when you buy the stocks you are not going to own the company, you are only hoping that management will give you a part of the growth of earnings in terms of share buybacks, dividends or retained earnings
 
Since we are owning small pieces of shares... We can't really do much other than put our trust into management.
 
So the rules of the game is the same as marriage, find someone that you can trust.
 
Here is the problem: are the tech companies really producing useful products? Or are they just undercutting the existing ones in a futile effort to grow.
 
Look at Australia, their explanation on FB and Google paying the local media companies is that if those 2 companies didn't exist, people would still be buying newspapers and supporting the local source. So the draw of Google and FB news is just free info that is taken advantage of to provide service to users.
 
In other words, FB and Google don't spend any money to produce any unique content, they just take advantage of other people's work to make money and sell ads, at the cost of people who produce unique content.
 
How many "tech" companies are doing this? Oyo, Airbnb, Uber, Lazada, shopee. If they didn't exist, would hotels die out? Would taxis die out? Would mom and pop shops die out? If it was a level playing field, who would we really choose? I think moving forward people would realize Airbnb users don't pay tax and safety codes ( hotels do), Lazada and shoppee sellers don't pay tax and rental ( physical stores do), Google and FB is selling your content for cheap prices ( which others work hard to do) and when people realize this and governments regulate this, those companies will have a big rerating of future prospects.
 
Those who are overpaying for future earnings today at high prices will be swimming naked when the tide goes out.
 
Yes, market is becoming increasingly overvalued, and yet how many people are starting to hold cash and drop earnings?
 
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dawchok

Philip : it is grateful that there is still few genuine and good writer as you in i3.

2020-12-22 08:52

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