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Publish date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 02:43 PM
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Often in the internet space, we have read about some general classifications of equity investors;

  1. The “low-class investor” who did not buy a certain stock which its stock price has gone up, and more stupid because they did not buy when its share price continued to climb up.
  2. The average investors who have bought the shares at low price but have sold off to take profit when the share price has doubled, say.
  3. The “super investor” who “continued to buy using margin finance. As the price goes higher, they can borrow more to buy”.

When this type of article appeared in the public forum, especially the classification was made by well-known and respectable person in the society, again and again, what would the general public think, and what would be their choice?

The answer, of course is very clear. Who wants to be a “low-class” investor, or just an “average investor”? Everyone will want to be a “super investor”, won’t you?

Given the choices above, I would prefer to be an “average investor”. If I cannot be an “average investor”, I would take the “low-class investor” in precedence of the “super investor”.

Why do I take this stand? The answer is risk. When a share is being hyped up and touted relentlessly, and its share price gone up too fast too soon, without very strong justifications, it becomes risky.

Wonderful companies become risky when people overpay for them.” Peter Lynch

Let us use the share price movement of Hengyuan as an example.

 

Case Study: Hengyuan

Hengyuan is without doubt, the hottest stock in i3investor now. There are numerous articles written on it and published in i3investors, and a thread with the most comments. Some articles and comments are brilliant and filled with facts and detailed analysis, which investors should pay more attention to, but most are just pure hypes and touting of stock with little substance. Below is a typical one,

[Posted by John Lu 《 HIBISCUS 》 TP RM2 > Dec 29, 2017 06:42 AM | Report Abuse https://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

Hengyuan haha...counting money everyday]

Figure 1 below shows the price movement of Hengyuan in the last few months. Its share price has gone up from about RM3.00 a year ago to more than RM19 three weeks ago. That was when the above comment was made. The share price stayed around RM17, before plunging below RM12 just a couple of days ago, and rising to close at RM14.30 yesterday on 19th January 2018.

Figure 1:

What an exciting ride! Some people do enjoy this type of thrill. Some got “frightened the shit out of” them.

An ordinary investor, or even a super investor would not have discovered Hengyuan a year ago when it was trading at RM3.00 as there was no positive results to show yet. Some might have discovered and started to invest say three months ago when it was trading at about RM8.00 and reported a good set of quarterly results. But does he who did not buy Hengyuan deserve to be classified as “low-class investor”?

I don’t think so. There are close to a thousand companies listed in Bursa. One really doesn’t need to know every stock in the stock exchange, and he just can’t spot every gem. There are also some other stocks which have gone up reasonably during the same period, and investors would have obtained reasonable return. Some shares might have gone up even more than Hengyuan during the same period.

For those “average investor” who have bought Hengyuan and sold off at about RM17 should be very happy to be an “average investor” too by making such a great return in such a short time. Why not? I would.

What about the “super investors” as categorised above?

 

Margin financing (for super investors)

There were indeed many new “super investors’ about a month ago when Hengyuan’s share price continues to rise to about RM14. They started buying at around that price, and “continued to buy using margin finance. As the price goes higher, they can borrow more to buy”.

Looking at the share price movement of Hengyuan recently as shown in Figure 1 above, the average price of buying may be around RM17.00. The volume of trading spiked, with the above “good” advice of using other people’s money (OPM). This was also evidenced from the sources in the market that there was huge increase in margin financing for Hengyuan during that period.

About three weeks ago, the share price of Hengyuan started to fall from RM17.00 and plunged to less than RM12.00 a couple of days ago, with heavy volume. Those who bought Hengyuan during the peak of RM19.00 when it was hyped up and relentlessly touted, would have lost a whopping 37%. Even those who bought at an average of RM17 would have lost 30%, in less than three weeks. If one “continued to buy using margin finance. As the price goes higher, they can borrow more to buy”, say using 50% margin, they would have lost about 70%.

Did margin calls happen during the plunge? I am not sure, the volume was heavy during that period and my remisier told me “that kind of dumping is typical of margin calls or voluntary selling.” In a margin call, the investment banks will just dump your shares at whatever price, without getting approval, or even without informing you, to mitigate their potential losses.

Hengyuan share price recovered strongly yesterday in the latter part of the day. Those who were forced to sell due to margin calls, or forced to cut-loss have lost the opportunity to recover in this, maybe (and maybe not) a good share, for long-term investing.

Hengyuan’s recent case is just one example. I could give you scores of other examples in the past. That is why I never like to be the third category of investor, the “super investor” given above. Will you?

 

Conclusions

Investing is for building long-term wealth slowly but surely, with little risk. Chasing stocks which have gone up in price too fast too soon is one of the biggest risks in investing. What this gentleman below says is often true,

Leverage can magnify your gains in the stock market, but do not forget the other part of the story. Some people do make a lot of money using OPM, but many more, especially the newbies, without proper investment knowledge, the inexperienced, and try to get rich quick by mimicking the super investor, had lost hugely in the stock market too.

There are many people in the internet boasting their success in using OPM. However, you my not know what they had gone through, and you may not replicate their “success” following them.

 “The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm, but because of those who look at it without doing anything”. Albert Einstein

That is the motivation of this article

Happy investing.

 

KC Chong (ckc13invest@gmail.com)

Discussions
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John Lu 《 HIBISCUS 》 TP RM2

Wah...i m so famous now until kc copy my comment in this article....kc still stuggle at 9% return? I support your Dayang abit at 83c...hopes Dayang wont give me 9% only in 1 year

2018-01-20 14:55

probability

Hmm..margin finance probably the cause..thanks for enlightening KC

2018-01-20 15:01

probability

Im innocent investor..the worst category :(

2018-01-20 15:02

tecpower

Bursa Malaysia to continue upward momentum next week
http://m.thesundaily.my/node/520299

Nasdaq and the US semiconductor index hit a historical high. Tech rally will be coming soon.

2018-01-20 15:03

Ricky Yeo

John doesn't understand opportunity cost

2018-01-20 16:01

cyeec2000

Well said kc Chong..

2018-01-20 16:23

cheoky

Malaysians are good result oriented instead of good process oriented. it will continue to be for foreseeable future until a crisis come. If uncle put off greatly this time, you need to work double work to educate Malaysian on this lo. but I wish uncle put it off lolx. vested interest ma. see Malaysian die hard. typical Malaysian ma. even my former rich boss told the short skirt insurance agent. Don't tell me 5 or 10 years returns. tell me how much can I make next year. Oh perhaps this is were intelligent investing strive...but still there is a high chance after 5 years absolute return of uncle equivalent is still higher compare to intelligent investing discounting risk adjusted parameters.

2018-01-20 16:54

John Lu 《 HIBISCUS 》 TP RM2

Ricky Yeo dare post comment but not dare participate in 2018 stock pick...lame like a chicken

2018-01-20 17:00

Ricky Yeo

That's why I say you don't understand opportunity cost and market. You want to judge someone based on their performance. You don't know how to exercise independent thinking other than using number to judge someone's success

2018-01-20 19:06

tc2012

Those having margin call deserved it as they only learn to manage the upside and
neglected the downside risk.It is a good but painful lesson to learn.

2018-01-20 19:18

brightsmart

bright and smart

raise the bar, aim high

to be super investor.

2018-01-20 19:58

gohkimhock

Those who speculated in Bitcoin and Heng Yuan, should be prepared to lose half of your capital.

2018-01-20 22:05

myongcc5

I never missed KC artiles! Entertaining n Enlightening!
Simple but comprehensive!
well done

2018-01-20 22:15

myongcc5

KC, how is the weather there, very hot?

2018-01-20 22:16

kcchongnz

Posted by John Lu 《 HIBISCUS 》 TP RM2 > Jan 20, 2018 05:00 PM | Report Abuse
Ricky Yeo dare post comment but not dare participate in 2018 stock pick...lame like a chicken


Don't participate in the stock pick means "lame like a chicken"?

Why? What is so great to participate in it? You do participate right? What is the positive contribution you have made in all your participation in the stock pick, which we can benefit?

Compared with the knowledge and wisdom of Ricky Yeo, where do you think you stand?

2018-01-20 22:46

kcchongnz

Posted by myongcc5 > Jan 20, 2018 10:15 PM | Report Abuse
I never missed KC artiles! Entertaining n Enlightening!
Simple but comprehensive!
well done
KC, how is the weather there, very hot?

myongcc5, thank you very much for your support. That always makes me continue to write and share.

Weather in Auckland? it is at 21 degree Celsius now, fantastic.

A few days ago I was at a place with under zero degree, 15 degree yesterday, and now it is 26 degree, not too bad.

2018-01-20 23:10

myongcc5

Thanks Sifu KC fr reply n great contribution to Investment society!
PTL!
I already told my son, one day after his graduation, must take up course wth Sifu KC before start investing

2018-01-20 23:24

myongcc5

My group of investors always Praise U

2018-01-20 23:24

myongcc5

Gnite

2018-01-20 23:25

vvcb

Thanks for the article. Keep up the good work!

2018-01-22 10:11

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