Letter to Mr. Ooi

I'm very disappointed with you, OTB

jaykay2
Publish date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018, 08:54 AM
I am one of your subscriber, but I very disappointed on your service. Based on what you have shared this year and last year. I realize that you are unprofessional and irresponsible advisor.

I am one of your subscriber, but I very disappointed on your service. Based on what you have shared this year and last year. I realize that you are unprofessional and irresponsible advisor.

Why I said so?

Based on your theory for selecting a stock, 1st will be TA (Sector, Breakout and Up trending) and follow by FA (Growth, Margin and Forecast).

Since the first I received your email until now, the way you selected the counter and the fact that you mention is nonsense.

The recent example, HENGYUAN.

 

In historical truth, HENGYUAN price was always ahead of PETRONM 2 to 3X since almost 20 yrs ago

I wish to confirm the aforesaid statement from PureBULL is true.

The average price of Petronm was about 3.00.

The average price of Hengyuan was about 8.00. 

The difference is 2.67X

Present price

Petronm - 11.48

Hengyuan - 15.08

Fair price of Hengyuan = 11.48*2.67 = 30.66 if the aforesaid assumption is true.

 

My question is how to forecast stock price by comparing two company’s historical price?

Dose this make any sense?

We are talking about two different group of people to operate two different companies. Two companies are operating in two different way, although the marco-economy is the same. Along the way, the major decision that both companies react is not same.

If this statement is true like what you said to PureBULL, then please explain on MAS and AIRASIA.

 

Latest technical chart of Hengyuan

The chart formation pattern is Cup And Handle Chart Formation. 

The price is above 20 days EMA which is bullish now.

You can notice that the price chart has higher high (15.16 and 15.68) and higher low (11.32 and 12.14) in last 1 month tradings. This means the trend is uptrending now. 

Parabolic SAR turned green to show bullish trend.

Stochastic buy is above 50%.

Force Index is above zero level and has blue color.

MACD showed a buy signal, Blue line is above zero level.

All the chart patterns and indicators are showing a bullish trend.

 

Beside this, you keep mention to us that how well your past performances are, how good you help your clients to invest and earn money in 2017. The most important things is none of them has lost money in 2017.

 

Honestly, in 2017 I have received so many emails from you and I can get a conclusion is, you are a fickle minded person. You almost changed your stocks selection every week. The stocks that you selected this week can be 50% disappear in next week selection.

10-14 July 2017

 

17-21 July 2017

 

24-28 July 2017

 

These are the most significant period that I found. You advised on buy call to all your subscribers, but when the stock out of your prediction, going another way and you don’t know how to handle and what you do is just ignore it. But at the same time, some of your subscribers are still inside that sinking boat. This year HENGYUAN is the same.

I am not blaming on you, and I am fully understood on “AT YOUR OWN RISK”. I am okay and comfortable to lose a significant number in the share market. But I am not okay with what you had done. In 14/07/2017, your stock selection number 5 is OKA. But in your portfolio, there doesn’t shows.


 

8th July, you asking us to buy ATTA-LA, and which is not in your portfolio too.

 

ATTA-LA has dropped from RM 0.50 to RM 0.1 from June 2017 to Oct 2017. And this stock is not even in your portfolio. You are advising us to buy a falling knife. After investigate, I know when the time you advising us to buy, you are selling it.

 

Other than above, you keep telling us how well you manage Mr. Koon’s fund, how you advise him on what to buy and when to buy. Because of your stock selection criteria and strategy, how much money you have earned for him. He will not be earning so much if without your advice.

 

Discussions
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OTB

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2020-04-19 10:10

iswara

how to join your group, mr. otb

2020-04-19 10:15

Jengacam2

Report him to SC provide all lousy service to subscriber..

2020-04-19 10:16

OTB

Post removed.Why?

2020-04-19 10:16

OTB

Mar 11, 2020 12:32 PM | Report Abuse

remisier license is virtually unlimited
publish reports
buy sell on behalf
they can even keep funds as trustee

2020-04-19 10:17

Sslee

Willing buyer, willing seller.
Only in North Korea 100% satisfied because the 1 % unsatisfied already shoot dead and fed to the dog.

2020-04-19 10:17

OTB

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2020-04-19 10:22

gemfinder

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2020-04-19 10:25

OTB

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2020-04-19 10:27

popo92

I believe mr Ooi have done his best for his subscribers. All I see from him is hardwork and integrity, he inform instantly with his portfolio and keep learning everyday. Even though I don’t follow his stock pick, but he has good proven track record. Unless one can prove you can beat him, criticizing ain’t seems convincing. My suggestion to mr Ooi is try not to please clients and do too frequent stockpick, and use qualitative analysis rather than quantitative FA analysis. It’s not worth it to put yourself into the game.

2020-04-19 10:54

OTB

Thank you popo92 for your good words.
Your suggestion is noted.
Thank you.

2020-04-19 10:57

Talib

as said, otb very rude . keep f people here. earn millions but unethical . disgrace to the max

2020-04-19 11:11

FoolsGold

@Gemfinder, v puzzled lah Y u always seems to rub others wrong way, to provoke sparks.

As u said, u r consider urself sucessful, got few Big cars, Big Hse, shd b v happy n charitable le...

can sense got something missing, is it an empty Big hse ar ? kikikiki

Posted by gemfinder > Apr 19, 2020 10:25 AM | Report Abuse

Otb said made,milions wor. C his portfolio. Only rm295k. I bought 10k carlsberg oredi more than tat. Hahahahhaha

2020-04-19 11:12

gemfinder

Got many pusy cats inside. Kikikiki

2020-04-19 11:15

FoolsGold

ok, be frank, what quali U r looking for le, we want U to be happy n charitable lah, :

U need someone , with Good english quali, Good cook, Ms HK profile, to fit your nice Big hse, with fully equip Michelin 5 stars kitchen ?

hahahahaha...

2020-04-19 11:25

OTB

Post removed.Why?

2020-04-19 11:49

FoolsGold

Posted by popo92 > Apr 19, 2020 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

I believe mr Ooi have done his best for his subscribers. All I see from him is hardwork and integrity, he inform instantly with his portfolio and keep learning everyday. Even though I don’t follow his stock pick, but he has good proven track record. Unless one can prove you can beat him, criticizing ain’t seems convincing. My suggestion to mr Ooi is try not to please clients and do too frequent stockpick, and use qualitative analysis rather than quantitative FA analysis. It’s not worth it to put yourself into the game.

agree with popo92,

Mr OTB, guess every "public profile" person has the same dilemma, how to handle unfair criticisms. As long as bigger majority of your subscribers r happy with your service n benefit , that is a big achievement & reflection , on your efforts.
Not possible to please all, it is the same for every public personality.
The fact that U take the pain to read the critics comments, shows that your r v conscientious n try your level best to do a good work, to please your clients.

Pls accept unfair/unkind comments come with the territory, (some r just pranks) n not be unduly ruffled, when U have already done your level best.

Best wishes.

2020-04-19 12:14

FoolsGold

not possible to be right all the time in stk market, esp in volatile uncertain times like now..imo

2020-04-19 12:19

OTB

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2020-04-19 12:20

cheated

Why OTB recommended Jaks at >1.4 not <0.7?

Posted by OTB > Apr 19, 2020 12:20 PM | Report Abuse

Dear FoolsGold,

Thank you for your words.
I agreed with you not 100% of my subscribers are happy with me.
I still try my best to answer all their emails and whatsapp without fail.
I hope they understand that I am also a human being, cannot be perfect and right all the times.
I really care for them even they disagreed with me.
I always believe customer is always right.
Thank you.

2020-04-19 12:27

OTB

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2020-04-19 12:34

ellokawan

Hi Mr OTB, as you would have known there are a lot of trolls and keyboard warriors online.. personally I am an avid reader of your sharings and I would like to thank you for sharing. As you have rightly said, you did not put a gun to our heads to follow your stock picks, so you did not commit a crime nor falsely duped anyone's hard earned money. Perhaps it would be better for you to just ignore the negative comments, and know that there are many silent readers (like myself who just created this account to thank you) who appreciate your sharings.

Thank you and hope you will continue contributing and sharing your knowledge with us.

2020-05-21 00:45

CharlesT

Time flies.....

2018 HengYuan 1.0...

2022 Hengyuan 2.0

Deja Vu

2023-03-04 19:47

Phoebe

I thought this was a new post, but when I read the comment, it said it was from 2017. I wish I had discovered this post sooner.
In any case, he no longer makes recommendations in I3. Why do you all want to delve into the past? It is now between him and his subscriber.

2023-03-06 11:45

gladiator

All those self proclaim stock guru mostly perform badly in the i3 stock competition. Don't waste money subscribe this and that.

2023-03-06 13:26

Zhuge_Liang

Looking at all his/her comments so far, gladiator must make million from KLSE.
How many million gladiator has made ?
10 million, 20 million or 30 million ??
gladiator should compete in I3 competition every year to win at least 2 championships to beat OTB.
Even gladiator wins one championship, gladiator still lose to OTB.
A good investor made a lot of money in KLSE will not attack others.
A good investor prefers to make money quietly.
Only a tin kosong or a person lost a lot of money in KLSE will attack others to vomit out his/her frustration.
Please read all his/her postings.
https://klse.i3investor.com/web/cube/profile/gladiator

2023-03-06 14:44

Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥

There are many geniuses in a bull market!

2023-03-10 08:13

gladiator

Don't forget the fate of platinum members of WealthArchitect2u.

2023-03-10 09:17

Zhuge_Liang

Post removed.Why?

2023-03-10 10:44

OTB

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2023-03-10 13:02

Michael Kwok

Wrong, must learn.do not complain.arrogant and ego will even loss more.i had a dad like tht before.but he change and learn from mistake.Last 15 years (2008-2023).everyone had it bad day.some for few years.worst had it 5-10 years.tht test of god also.
10/3/23 3.15pm

2023-03-10 15:13

curiousq

How much subscription fee? 3K a year?

2023-03-10 15:31

Michael Kwok

Post removed.Why?

2023-03-10 16:40

Zhuge_Liang

Michael Kwok,
No one knows what you are writing about.
Polish up your English language before you come over here.
Please do not embarrass yourself here.

Want to learn, please learn up your English Language first.
No one can understand you.

2023-03-10 17:08

DickyMe

Michael Kwok is a fish seller!

2023-03-10 22:50

smartly

investment amount is so small !?
i thought is a big player !

2023-03-10 23:28

lee901

Still got ppl trust tis sifu?

2023-03-11 08:29

OTB

I measure the performance is the amount of money a person made in his investment.
Not definitely the amount of bullshits in his postings in I3.
You should know yourself, how good is your performance.
Do not need to bullshit here.
Money in the bank will show your performance.

2023-03-11 09:12

OTB

Post removed.Why?

2023-03-11 09:21

Zhuge_Liang

Income should lose a lot of money in the present bear market.
Start to attack others.
Blaming game has started.

2023-03-11 09:44

CharlesT

What happened in 2020?

Mostly made big money in glove co n penny stocks.....

2023-03-11 13:56

CharlesT

Income u r the one whi digged out this old link n then deleted yr comment ah?

Eat too much too full nothing to do n now wanna play batu api ah??

2023-03-11 14:03

Zhuge_Liang

Did Income has many followers in I3 ?
When Income started to provide subscription service and has many followers ?
Do not bullshit here.
Mountain can change, bad character cannot change.

How much you make from KLSE ?
10 million, 20 million or more.

Posted by OTB > 5 hours ago | Report Abuse

I measure the performance is the amount of money a person made in his investment.
Not definitely the amount of bullshits in his postings in I3.
You should know yourself, how good is your performance.
Do not need to bullshit here.
Money in the bank will show your performance.

2023-03-11 14:29

OTB

Post removed.Why?

2023-03-11 16:13

BursaGolfer

Subscribe me la, rm100 per month rm1200 per year. at least am 1st in the stock picks contest 2022

2023-03-13 16:11

OTB

Ok, let me know how to subscribe to your article.
I agreed to pay 1,200 to you, no problem.
If your article is very good, I will pass all my clients to you after one year.
Please advise.
Thank you.

2023-03-13 16:25

Wealthy99

Personally, I think each sifu, master, guru, reminsier and anyone else who service you, give you tips, buy/sell recommendation and anything, will always be later than they reacted.
After they sold, they give you info.
After they bought, they share with you.
In reality, nobody will let you react before them. After all, they have done a lot of homework or "network connection" to confirm the trend, NOT the onw who receive the info.
So if you want to "trust", "follow", "believe', "tap along" and whatever you call, then DON'T blame anyone, but BLAME yourself.
Heart to heart, if you disclose buy/sell call to others before you took action????

2023-03-13 18:05

Zhuge_Liang

Posted by BursaGolfer > 7 hours ago | Report Abuse
Subscribe me la, rm100 per month rm1200 per year. at least am 1st in the stock picks contest 2022
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OTB wants to subscribe to your article now, please start your subscription business now.

Yes, you are the champion in 2022 stock pick competition.
Please note that OTB held a championship and a runner up.
In order for you to beat him, you need to win 2 championships.
OTB is still ahead of you.
Try harder, you have a good hope to beat OTB.

2023-03-13 23:31

OTB

I also read and follow some sifu in I3 to buy after I do my homework on their recommendation reports.
Many good examples like AAX, Armada, Atech, Genetec and Mi.
I am just an ordinary human being, I cannot research so many stocks.
I never blame any sifu here.
Most of the time, my performance is always good.
I only buy good fundamental stocks.

2023-03-28 12:12

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