Even DAYANG investors laugh at you. PANDAN muka...

Haha stoneraider 79 billion, sapura hardsell rm3 in 3 years. Laugh die me, you think is a Amazon or Apple?

But stoneraider say his stock will hit rm3 or 70 billion in 3 years woh....

Sure if I take money from public I am doing wrong.

Stoneraider talk like Korean drama so funny.

Not really want to argue with you, but just ask your boss if I am right ( because it happened to a lot of my friends).

Government body will come and investigate you, then give you ultimatum. We say you are wrong, this is our investigation paper, this is our summary how much you will be fined, and if you agree we can give you a reduction. If you don't agree, we will arrange a court date for you to argue your case to the court and get your judge hearing. But in any case, we want you to pay your fine first. If your case is won, government will refund your fine.

If you don't believe me, ask your boss.


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a defendant is presumed innocent until found guilty under Malaysia law.no fine first.hahaha.no more talk kok

HAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHA.

PANDAN muka!!!( Whatever that means)
People laughing at your stupidity... Sapura can grow faster than Amazon and Apple in 3 years.

Malu la.

DAYANG caaaannnnteeeeeekkkkkk! Don't follow idiot into sapura...

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Now this stockraider has became storeraider, so desperate move.

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Please do not bluff on RM3.00 TP of Sapura Energy here for publicity .

Please do not bluff innocents on Sapura Energy that will hit RM3.00 in 3 years time. Just imagine how many billion shares that SapuraE has and how much profit that this company need to earn a year to hit RM0.30 per share in a year based on 10 PE ?

It has almost 16 billion ordinary shares excluding convertible loan that can be converted into about 3 billion preference shares. So based on the 16 billion shares ,the EPS of RM0.30 is about “RM4.8 billion” in net profit a year based on PE 10 time. Do you think it managed to hit ? I do not think so .

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I have some friendly, comradely advice for StockRaider. We investors do not need to keep any unstinting loyalty to any stock. We just study & analyse the prettiest looking ones on our radar, we pick a few, perhaps even just one in certain situations, and we just roll with them.

Our loyalty should be to ouselves only, not to any company in particular. It is not like being loyal to our favourite football club. That one is only for fun & entertainment. Whereas with a stock, our own money is at stake. So, we simply owe it to ourselves to play the best & the most viable one available at the current time.

Malaysia court is different from USA. Here is they fine you first, and bring you to court. If you don't agree you need to appeal and showcause you are right. It's not the other way around unlike other countries.

Investigation for SC is actually quite a serious matter my young friend.

I have deleted my blog. I also did not highlight his name. But he incriminated himself some more with stupid cheeky remarks on my blog.

I really cannot tahan this little kid.

But I think if he goes to jail or is penalized by SC is really not a good thing la.

I'll try to call my friends son again in the morning.

I really lost my cool this time.

Hope Jon can quickly delete all relevant information before it's too late.

I apologise sincerely.

Exactly my point. If he simply tells his parents he losses money but hide it away like jho low still ok.

If he actually made 300% out of it, no audited trail and scam the top, say loss money, worse.

If he was stupid enough to audit it and keep a paper trail with banks, SC will have a field day.

This advice I have for free. Close down your bullshit investment site. I've already sent WhatsApp to Mr George Chua son( I can't remember his name though), I saved it as Chua son SC.

I'm sorry everyone, angry Philip has struck again. I found out my old friend son now works in securities commission, and I gave him a call and sent him some WhatsApp photos of Choi yi kit soliciting of investment funds and his 2 year returns. He started laughing at the gall of the young man and said he would look into the matter.

I sincerely, dearly hope Jonathan Choi closes good website immediately and refund all his "funds" to his 3rd party investors.

I may have gone too far this time.

My muka is not pandan, obviously unlike you I already have made a call to securities commission ( one of my good friend son works there) and verified everything.

I would suggest YOU to verify everything before you spout off like a crazy dog.

And you young Choi yi kit did you write an email or give a call to securities commission to ask if this activity would be in any way illegal?

I did.

If you think that is going to help you when you taking 3rd party investors, I'd like to see you answer that next week.

If you have any lawyer friends, I suggest you talk to them right now and ask their opinion.

Better yet, bring them with you to SC office for clarification.

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Just so no one here is in any way confused.

Do note this is not a hedge fund or asset management company. We have not obtained the securities commission license needed for asset management or giving financial advice etc.

Is stated in very large letters and bolded on my website.

OK, let him suffer his autism in silence. I am sending the report to SC tomorrow. Lets see if prison time will make him a better man.

read back the law. Family and friends investing is legal, same as when you borrow money from your dad to start your office boy business. The law considers that you know what you are doing and any dispute must be dealt out of court.

3rd party fund investment online, and told to the public during a investment forum, and charging hourly rates for private investment advice, and taking in funds for investing is ILLEGAL.

But I don't expect you to know all this.

Which is why I am teaching you how to invest stockloser.

1st lesson, SAPURA will not be a 72 billion dollar company in 3 years. Not even APPLE, AMAZON and GOOGLE could do that growth in 3 years.
2nd lesson, say "Thank you."

i ban layhong eggs because got herbert smell....

YOU KNOW I KNOW WHO LA. DOING INVESTMENT CLASSES, HOW TO TRADE CLASSES, LEARNING POTTERY CLASSES IS OK.

WHEN YOU CROSS THAT LINE INTO TAKING INVESTMENT MONEY FROM 3RD PARTY INVESTORS (WITH NO LICENSE AND 2 YEARS OF INVESTING PORTFOLIO EXPERIENCE MARKED XX%) THEN YOU ARE COMMITTING A CRIME.

AND WE KNOW YOUR FULL NAME, YOUR ADDRESS IN JOHOR BAHRU, YOUR FACEBOOK PROFILE, WHO YOUR FAMILY IS, WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE, WHAT YOUR IP ADDRESS IS, WHO PAID FOR THAT WEBSITE.

THE SECURITIES COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY.

I GIVE YOU 1 WEEK TO SHUT THINGS DOWN, BEFORE I REPORT YOU TO SECURITIES COMMISSION.

I WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT WELL ENOUGH ALONE. BUT THE HUBRIS KNOWS NO BOUNDS. REALLY NEED TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE.

AS THE HOST OF LAST WEEK TONIGHT JOHN OLIVER PUTS IT, "LET ME JUST DROP THE MIC RIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTT NOW."

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/philip4/197594.jsp

I GIVE YOU 1 WEEK TO RETURN ALL YOUR FUNDS, CLOSE YOUR WEBSITE AND STOP MENTIONING ALL THIS FUND TAKING BULLSHIT. OR I GO TO THE SECURITIES COMMISSION. I HAVE YOUR FULL NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR WEBSITE SCREEN SHOTS. YOUR UGLY MUG.

OR I GO CLAIM THAT WHISTLEBLOWER MONEY MYSELF.

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Or, put 150k in an account and give me the password (or give a good enough impression beforehand). There, you get 3 hours of my time for free.




Or even better, message me on my site, i'll ask you what you find interesting or if you feel i am wrong on anything, or miss out on anything. If you give an answer than reflects a rational, logical, wise, patient and deep mind

CURRENT MARKET CAP OF SAPNRG IS 7.2 BILLION. IF IN 3 YEARS SAPNRG CAN SUDDENLY HIT 70 BILLION MARKET CAP, I CALL YOU GREATEST SIFU OF ALL TIME.

NOW I REALLY KNOW YOU DONT KNOW INVESTING.

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WHAT IS THE TARGET PRICE FOR Sapnrg?

Raider HAS A 3 YEAR TARGET PRICE FOR Sapnrg AT RM 3.00 loh...!!

nope, OPCOM is one of the manufacturer of fiber optic of which there are many. electplus, belden, schneider electric, coretech, taiwan, china, japan, etc etc etc. There are so many suppliers its not sustainable. Even opcom is a joint venture with erricsson AB. All I can say is their products are not the cheapest in the market, and the competition is fierce. With one look at their net margins below 3%, you can tell its not a good business to buy.

this kind of thinking is the simplistic thinking of a child who wants to prove to the world that he is an adult. For adults? I'll just quote munger,

“The best thing a human being can do is to help another human being know more.” Charlie Munger

For SSLEE:
“People calculate too much and think too little.”
― Charles T. Munger

There is a world of difference between me and people like Calvin Tan and KYY. They teach you about price, TP, how to fly and when to buy and sell.

I try to teach you how to think.

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Most people may not feel that malicious feeling of wanting to con others when they share their research.

But if its so good, share for what? Quiet and buy lah. Why need to motivate volume to come in? Why need others to know?

Everyone who writes an article extolling the virtues of the stock, looks at the stock closely the next day with the hope (secret or not) that it will now go up.

Now that you mention it, I even have his real name. Time to give a call ...

Just trying to help out stockraider a little bit get his ikan Bilis collection.


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Hehehe..... I thought Philip never invest in penny stock?

And the funniest thing is, after all your disparaging remarks on JAKS business etc, it went from rm0.49 to rm0.8. While RCECAP went from 1.45 to 1.66. and INSAS from 0.67 to 0.76.

So, is qqq3 and icon8888 the smart ones here? Or are you the ones blinded by numbers and not understanding how business works?

I think I should keep quiet from now on as well. Insulting kids is beneath me. I should know better than to bully children.

If investing so easy I into you a better stock lo.

Go buy Parkson! It's worth 260 million, but the net asset is 3.7 billion. Cash is 1.37 billion ringgit.

That is even more dirt cheap!
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LOTR3839 SAPRES (4596) is Dirt cheap stock!

Sapura is going to be the best company in 2019!

The horrible old CFO gone now time for sapura to shine!

It's not a fake news, it really did happen. Lol. Time to load up more on sapura push it to 0.35 cents today!

Sapura CFO has just abandon ship. Rosenah Mohd Hassan has left, without leaving any replacement. So irresponsible!

I know none of those people that you speak of in real life.

I only go to bed with one person, my wife.

I do know hubris and pride when I see them, and I seek to understand why someone would "interview" other investors then write hit pieces on their investing method (poor OTB and Davidlim), while they themselves have ZERO results to show for.

I also repeat here:

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/188836.jsp

The hubris and overconfidence of someone who never invested in inari (but chose to buy more into INSAS), and having the confidence to run down a long term investor (just to prove that his investing is relevant), this is simply another jon choivo in the making.

A lot of talk. No results.

At least qqq3, 3ii, even icon8888 and koonyewyin do not think they know so much and made so much money that they can write investment grade analysis reports promoting their stocks by degrading other investors.

All of those above have been investing since at least 2009 (at minimum).

How long have you been in the market? And the moment you went in, the first thing you do instead of investing slowly and steadily was to become xinquan top 30 shareholder, and insas have lunch with the owners.

Wonderful, even have investment blogger talks!

Again, I repeat: Results?

You are similar to Jon in that you have a worldview of how things should be working out, without any results to show that it works. I must admit, I also have my own mental models and worldview. I am quite stubborn about it. But mine is based on reality, on real results, over 10+ years (after 10 years of failure, for an investment career of 20 years)

I summarize: RESULTS.

I suggest you start here, post your investment strategy, you portfolio results (not XXXX, percentage gain). and your long term investment gain:

http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1977.html

Then you and choi yi kit can write about whatever you want, how bats and palm oil are the investment of the future, and I would read carefully.

Wonderful! The new 2% short sales agreement with substantial shareholders for the bond sales, is bringing down the price of Topglov to more hot sales territory.

7 cents a in july. bonus issue 1:1. 5 cents this last quarter (effectively 10 cents dividend). 17 cents dividend a year is pretty good no? If topglove price can drop lower to RM3.4, I would be taking margin and buying all I can!

Haven't gone full 50% margin since 2010.

Relax, topglov will do fine. I've been here for a while.

I recommend you read this, it is one of the principle reasons I gave up on trading strategies in the 90's based purely on price trend, arbitrage and momentum.

I totally agree, as a minority shareholder, you can only look to the stock price appreciation and dividend yield to make you rich.

However, momentum investing involves dealing with EMOTION. As you would have probably noticed by now, emotions are something that I find hard to control sometimes, especially in investing.

I thus seek to take it out of my system, and focus on concentrated investing in businesses where I can go to Pulau Sipadan, dive and fish for months on end, or go to my farm and replant my oil palm and pineapples without looking at the stock price ticker every few minutes.

The meaning of life is to give life meaning.

If I have to work so hard, monitor so closely every hour every day, just to squeeze in a few more percentage points, might as well read more on co business growth long term, concentrate my investments, and monitor closely every quarter instead.

It's pathethic I know, but I do well for myself. I have yet to cut loss or margin call, so that lack of stress there has to mean something, right?

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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/longtermcapital.asp

Why would I sell it? I'm confused. If it's a good stock that keeps on growing it's earnings and dividends over time, why not just hold on to it and hand it over to your grandchildren?

When it first listed in 2010, it's ipo price was 5.20.

In that period of time, it has given you rm1.89 in dividends, grown it's share price to rm9.2, and most importantly used it's retained earnings to grow net worth from 17 billion to 30 billion ( just in case anyone ever decided to buy over the company you would have even more to earn).

Dividends was just 16 cents in 2010. Today in 2019 you get 32 cents. 10 years from now, I expect it to give out rm1 in dividends every year.

If you think this is an impossible story, I invested in QL in 2009 with just 200k., On an average basis not counting reinvestment, the shares I bought post split is now giving me around 21k of dividends every year. In a 5 years from now, my dividends alone would have paid for my 200k investment. After that free gold mine forever.

The goal of investing is to find a good stock. The question remains, do you really have to sell if you hit your "tp"?

Sorry for teasing you a little bit.

But share price is what you pay, value is what you get.

If you ask Mr teh to sell his public bank shares once he got "TP" he will probably giggle and say ok next week. He will give you the same reply 10 years from now.

He is one of 3 individuals in Malaysia permitted To hold a more than 10% stake in a domestic financial institution.

So you really need to understand in terms of ecosystem. Alipay does not handle debt, only cash. It simplifies payment method. you still need to link your alipay account to a credit card if you want to do... credit.Ghl is having problems integrating all of these because of its back end.

Stoneco also handles debt handling directly, internally (visa, MasterCard, amex) which is debt fueled, as it is a "bank". Which is a big game changer. I think it will stay highly relevant in the future. Ghl probably not.

If alipay can process debt directly with users like you and me, it will either go bankrupt really fast, or be there biggest China around. I doubt this will be possible, it's hard to track down non-paying lenders. Banks got a full credit compliance team, plus Dog the bounty Hunter to chase you down.

Ghl is quite similar to stoneco when it first started, I used ghl to analyze my understanding of STNE. If you want to use growth triggers, you can see the next challenges facing ghl that stoneco has met and resolved to advance to the next stage.

In terms of business, ghl is stuck at the EDC terminal sales stage. They have a big market in Malaysia, with 200 sales staff selling EDC terminal. However.... They are only doing the front end, and selling back to back the credit "debt assets" to acquiring banks. Stoneco has managed to get the bank negara approval to become an acquiring bank itself. So it makes the big 18% a year that credit card companies make on debt on top of it's assets and going around acquiring merchants microtransactions. Basically it's a specialized bank that only does this business, handling small sme's.

In terms of growth, stone is adding customers at 100% growth per year. Ghl is already a big market in Malaysia with 200 million transactional revenue on 3.6 billion sales, but with very slow growth uptake in other countries.
Stone does this because it does the entire system ( POS, accounting, EDC) via cloud and into your smartphone and supported by a huge "mlm" team that goes around helping not so internet savvy people as well as selling those systems to new business owners. Ghl only sticks to selling EDC terminal only that can link to a POS system that you need to buy a computer/cash register for. And not very good support, according to online reviews comparing other rival suppliers.

In terms of market size, South East Asia is very difficult to do business in because of geography and culture. Brazil is one big landmass. Stoneco is targeting 8.8 million small business owners that can't even get EDC terminal approvals due to risk issues. It still has a long way to go. Ghl on the other hand cannot simply give out EDC terminal to every Tom dick and Harry out there, they need to get big bank approval first. Stoneco is it's own "bank".

If stoneco was to replicate it's business here in SEA, I think ghl and others will go out of business pretty fast.

Don't worry, I not like you. Dare to post, dare to be responsible.

Like this also can lohsoh. Don't miss the forest for the trees.

Your investing strategy is all textbook and not based on reality. You have no results to show. You buy average companies, for average prices.

You should be more humble. And understand that all investment, all business is related.

This advice give you free.

This is why I know Choi yi kit will not succeed long term.

In my twenties, it is exactly because I had huge debts that I had to work so hard to earn money.

In my thirties I already had multiple income streams. In addition to my job, I had bought a cheap piece of land ( 5k per acre) in tawau around 4 acres to plant palm oil. Then I also started to do Amway mlm,and also part time draftsman. Not to mention selling black 4D to around 400 workers back in the day.

No money, but plenty of cash flow.

By my fourties my debts were all paid off, I had 12 acres of palm oil plantation, I hit emerald Amway distribution, I was a certified A0 so I could rent out my license, and I had become a technical manager. Bigger salary, got performance bonuses.

Still no money, but all the cash flow into growing my portfolio, and my income streams.

Investing is about attitude, patience, rationality and hard work.

From the way you write, I doubt you will go far in life.

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Philip, I have more money in my twenties than you have in your forties.

Choi yi kit won't. This is simply because he actually thinks he is better than Berkshire and his long term results will better than Warren buffet.

oh my gosh! that is wonderful Fortune Bull!, that profit alone is like double the size of jon choivo portfolio. How did you manage such an amazing thing?

Just remember the lesson of young choivo so called long term value investor.

He follow KYY buy hengyuan at low price of 9, watch it go up to 16, then his heart become soggy, and he buy in again at 18 only to watch it all crumble down to 4.

At least if you earn you nod your head and move along, no need to be sour grapes.

Why sslee always only read and see what he wants to see.


I was giving you what is known as a what if scenario. Like you always love to do with your reposting of past figures with no solid future results analysis.

No need to pollute my blog like stockraider with irrelevant information.

What does managing stress have to do with the future of TIMECOM?

Thank you.

I would rather buy TM. It is far more oversold. And they also have far more of those "super highway fiber networks".

More importantly, they have cut their dividends, rationalized their business, are more sensitive to upstarts like time, and are improving their costs and services to meet the future.

All TM needs to do is to cost cut here and there, trim a few bits here and there and voila.

Their monopoly is still intact. Yes even maxis and Digi have to use tm fiber trunk line ( they prefer to rent time in certain areas because it's cheaper than TM) for their 4g and 5g upcoming transmission.

But a full price war ( which gobin would love) between Time and TM won't even be funny. Yes it's probably against anticompetition law, but if tomorrow TM decided to upgrade their equipment in those 3 areas which time has coverage, reset up and start selling 1gbps to those homes only at rm50 2 year special? That year also time can pack up and divest their FTTH business.

It's not that TM can't compete. They just choose not to interact with noisy children. Unless mcmc forces them to.

If investing was about looking at details of the past, sslee and choivo would be richest men in Malaysia today.

Alas, investing is about the future.

Time main income growth driver is not from renting out those super highway of fiber optic networks ( which in their annual reports is listed as challenging and competitive) which they also co-own with TM and many others companies ( rangkaian 1 Malaysia) etc.

Their main income driver comes from solving the last mile issue. Putting fiber to the home. In their letter they have acknowledged difficulty in supplying their service to the masses because

A. TM not willing to give up their use rights of those existing poles to landed properties and existing mdf manholes and pipelines to their condos everywhere. If you want, build your own la.

B. It is either too expensive to cut roads and lay their own fiber last mile framework, or they will lose huge money for each subscriber they add by doing so. Time wants free lunch, but TM says try harder.

Currently you can already have broadband to the house wirelessly (4g) by getting a sim card and a wireless router. Our only complaints is price and quality. 5G will fix that, with new low power transmitters and high access speeds of 3gbps and huge number of connections.

Why is maxis, Digi etc broadband package so expensive? Electricity costs ( current cell towers suck up electricity like a cow eats grass), FTTH are cheaper because it is cheap to relay light through fiberglass instead of sound.

That will soon change as evidenced by 5g trials recently in putrajaya.

On top of that since 2009, time has not been paying 24% taxes because they have been using their past losses building those super highway fibre optic networks.

Starting 2019, LGE has said Time can no longer claim those losses, and must pay 24% tax on everything they earn.

Do you think time business starting next year can grow so much more that their EBITDA in 2019 will be able to absorb 50 million of taxes and still be more profitable earnings growth than 2018?

I think not. Time did 288 million this year. In 2019, after making more record breaking profit, time will be paying 24% tax, 50 million more give or take, putting their expected returns at 230 million net earnings. For a company whose only ability is to cut down on prices to win market share ( which TM owns market share 10:1, why would they drop prices if they don't have to? And it's not like they can't, both have those "fiber assets", tm just chooses not to) it's not exactly a big threat.

Good luck to time investors next quarter1 of 2019.

Thank you.

bye kid. I will stop interacting with children like you as well.

another brainless whiner. Just like TIME.

Whining about why they cant serve their landed customers.

whine whine whine.

it doesn't matter how infinitely fast your internet it becomes if you can't solve the last mile issue, which is where TIME biggest growth is coming from.

Room to grow? at 100K per KM? good luck.

your selling costs will always be capped by your deployment costs.

And now that TIME can no longer claim tax incentive from their losses before? I practically GUARANTEE LOWER EARNINGS in the future.

problem is with losers like jon choivo the more he lose out, the louder he gets.

If he stays humble, keeps quiet, gets in some good long term results and then says what he wants, charge investors 5K, promotes his ideas over other people I have zero issue.

But his hubris does not match with his results.

Not. At. All.

5G not enough? wait till you see what 6G does. wireless power like how nicola tesla promised us? The future is far more advanced than you can believe. If you told someone 80 years ago that you would be able to send a wireless mail in 2 seconds from malaysia to england, invent wireless charging, be able to talk on wireless phones, translate languages instantaneously?

He would have laughed his head off.

Yes, top up more. put in all your money.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/philip2/197219.jsp

LESS LOHSOH. MORE INFO. THIS IS WHY WARREN BUFFET HATES INVESTING IN TECH COMPANIES. SPEND BILLIONS PULLING 3600 KM OF CABLES, REGISTER HUGE LOSSES. AFTER EARN THINGS BACK AGAIN, 5G COMES IN AND RUINS YOUR DAY AGAIN.

5G not viable technology? wait till they start investing in millions of small cell switches technology for 5G networks.