@skoh888; I am fine, comrade, and trust you are too. Keeping a healthy mind and sound values; just like you.

Read 'A Memoir' but learnt nothing from it.

Shut your trap, Calvin, and preserve your teetering sanity. Robert Kuok rode on the sugar wagon to make his first fortune in 1963 speculating on the London sugar market. Palm oil came later, much later, and Kuok gave the credit is given to his nephew for building up Wilmar. Read Robert Kuok's 'A Memoir' published 2013 to gain some insight into a great business mind.

Vinsanity strikes again!

Someone here has a bad case of "vinsanity" but will deny it to his last day. The remedy is very simple but unattainable due to some peculiar personality disorder that prevents him from accepting having been wrong and moving on.

An obscure news report from Indonesia mentioned the discovery by fishermen off the coast of Bali of a UFO (unidentified floating object) over the weekend. Upon hauling the object, which resembled a large water tight tong, on board and opening its hatch, they found a near delirious man inside mumbling words to the effect of "buy kaw kaw, die die hold". Wanting to help but being very superstitious creatures, the fishermen decided to cast the tong back into the sea with some water and food provisions for its occupant. The UFO has not been sighted since but scientists surmise prevailing winds and tides will bring to shore somewhere on Bali island.

@skoh888 ; Thanks for the good thoughts. Same same for all. Survive the downturn and prosper in the next upturn. Don't fight market trends, ride along with it.

Looked into the 'tong sampah' this morning and guess what I found? One miserable excuse of a human being skulking there now that TSH has become a penny stock below RM1. Now don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against TSH or any plantation stock but you don't go against market trends and expect to be a winner.

I am leaving my TSH, HSPlant, JTiasa in the freezer together with I3Investor for the rest of 2022 or till something positive happens. Nothing one can do pursuing a lost cause. Good luck, one and all.

If he can't sway you by a dispassionate distillation of facts and logical arguments, he thinks he can by obfuscation, endless repetition, selective analogies and the like. What a character! Why not just admit wrong for once and move on. There's life away from the palm oil estate and the vagaries of the market.

@See_Research...How can anyone dazzled by the gold in palm oil look up to see danger when walking under a building being renovated? He can see giant treasure under the ground but not debris falling from the sky. He has selective sight and hearing but a diminished bank account for sure. But he's not wrong; the treasure is somewhere nearby!

"Those whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad". Sadly, there is evidence of such madness in this thread. Take care, all.

@JJPTR; You the man!

What should investors do? They may love TSH at 1.00 but hate having bought it at 1.80, 1.70, 1.60, 1.50, 1.40,130

After selling in 1Q2022 and early part of 2Q2022 at prices from 1.80, 1.70, 1.60, 1.50, 1.40, 1.30 for TSH, why shouldn't GLICs buy back around RM1 now? Makes complete sense to me. Those investors who heeded buy kaw kaw, die die hold calls are the losers.

@kcchongnz; That's why I have respect for you but not for KYY whose self professed good intentions and veneer of philanthropy hide much darker motives. The man is no super investor; more of a snake oil salesman. Past painful experience has taught me that much.

@JJPTR; One other substantial seller is EPF which used to hold over 100 million TSH shares. But then EPF has also sold many other stocks this year to raise cash to meet contributors' redemption. I am also bemused by the shareholder changes in TSH and can't figure why.

@skoh888; yea, the alter ego hypothesis is as good as any. We are all stabbing in the dark. Looking for some entertainment this morning.

Willingly do the lambs go to the slaughter for they follow the great leader who can do no wrong! It is a certain personality type who follows without question.

@skoh888; Just have an interest in these leadership types and how they can get certain types of people to follow them, to death even. I can't even get my children to listen to me now that they are adults!

@See-Research ; Sounds like Calvin may have in the Eagle Group a compliant devotee following similar to cult figures like Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, Shoko Asahara, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and more. None can question the great leader, all must hear and obey or else be expelled.

Why does KYY still write despite being consistently wrong in his recent stock calls and being savaged by readers? I think he has nothing else meaningful to engage his remaining time. He also craves the attention writing stock articles garners. He may have lost so much money following his own calls there is little left for charity. Like many previously successful stock speculators, he went up the mountain once too often and finally met a tiger. Welcome back, kc.

@skoh888...doing ok, thanks. Got some free Sunday afternoon time so took a peek at TSH thread and got knocked back with the amount of traffic in the last week.

@DJThong; Calvin is like the pied piper, making delusive but enticing claims, leading novices to disaster with irresponsible predictions.

@DJThong ; you have my utmost sympathy. The stock market is a merciless place; full of fakes, charlatans, con artists, egomaniacs and like scum. Many investors have gone through the dilemma you now face when holding too much high priced stock. Cutting loss to reduce debt is very painful but sometimes necessary for survival. I still hold palm oil stocks but have no borrowing so can tough out bad times. The market will recover in time but this abject lesson must never be forgotten. It is very difficult to make money in the stock market and anyone who tells you otherwise does not have your interest at heart.

@Calvin; please do us a favour and reply to See Research's comments. He talks sense, you talk nonsense. No more of your wild schoolboy claims else you become the everlasting butt of jokes.

Calvin was digging a deep hole looking for giant treasure in a Sarawak oil palm plantation. Alas, the deeper he dug, the more unstable the surrounding earth became, and he ran away, leaving all his fellow treasure hunters behind to fend for themselves. Did'nt do his groundwork but won't admit to it.

Calvin stubbornly holding on to bad/wrong calls, yes, but a deliberate tool of syndicates? That's a new one for me. But this does explain a few things from his past. And the present.

@skoh888 ; The heavenly one is the last refuge for many a scoundrel who will admit to no wrong. All humans err and to admit wrong is part and parcel of the learning process.

@calvin ; once again, do rebut SEE Research factually and point by point.

@SEE Research ; Thumbs up!

Pied piper - one who offers strong but delusive enticement

Nothing personal, I call it as I see it.

@skoh888 hi, do you any any thoughts as to why Calvin refers to himself in the third person always (illeism)? Some scientific researchers claim it helps to clear one's emotional fog, helping one to think clearly. Does'nt seem to work in Calvin's case, he is in dense fog all the time.

This Calvin is irrepressible, incorrigible and still sticking blind blind to his stock picks in a market riveted by fear but he is still good for a laugh, painful it may be in this current market. Putting all my stocks in the refrigerator until this winter of discontent passes. The cold helps numb the pain a little.

@skoh888...you did us all a favour by calling him out.

I still hold my portfolio of plantation stocks including TSH, HSPlant, JTiasa and others. No borrowing, hence no pressure to sell at poor prices in a weak market. However, the almost insanely incessant optimistic calls by cannot-be-wrong Calvin has got me irritated as it is a danger to many weaker investors' financial health. That fella has a messianic complex, it seems.

@skoh888 Another very sensible article! Recommended reading for all newbies who have not faced a torrential avalanche that sweeps all before it.

Calvin,
No reply? You have made the case that you are a very confused investor and no stock messiah. Good bye.

SOP? This is TSH thread and SEE Research comments are not specific to SOP at all. You try to confuse and obfuscate. Do reply point by point.

Calvin,
Don't beat around the bush and talk 3 talk 4. You are but a pied piper leading many to Amsterdam and even in the face of damning facts, continue piping with little remorse. Please refute See Reseach messages point by point if you can, if you dare, if you have any following.

SEE Research's bear market call seems almost prescient in hindsight; irrefutable, indisputable and borne out by current market events. An avalanche of pessimism that sweeps all before it, yet some would ignore or deny. Perhaps they live in an insulated high rise penthouse in the red light district of Amsterdam and don't need to come down to earth.

Someone should change his handle to "caveatemptoreng" so all are made aware there is no responsibility for wrong calls but plenty of self praise for correct ones. Sheesh!

In the "kaw kaw buy" and "die die hold" strategy for palm oil plantation stocks, there is no risk containment, no measures to cope with market downturns, no u-turns; it is like a kamikazi move, plough straight ahead, all or nothing, irrespective of what lies ahead. How many have that deep pockets to withstand the vagaries of market fluctuations?

A sensible article with a practical piece of advice in conclusion.. Buy a portfolio of plantation stocks and hold for minimum 6 months if you think current high CPO prices can sustain. No conspiracy theories, no digging for treasure, no giving excuses of one kind or another for erroneous conjecture.

You just can't blame the plantation stocks sell down on the IBs. Market sentiment has deteriorated and other stocks are down as well. Just that plantation stocks were recently chased up with high ffb/cpo prices and therefore are now correcting more sharply. Just normal market reaction to over enthusiasm.

The muted response to good quarterly results posted by some oil palm plantation companies tell us the numbers were already factored into current market price. Expectations are high but the future remains uncertain. Will high ffb/cpo prices be sustained? Can costs be contained? Can labour shortages be resolved? I like Hsplant and have faith in its management but am now much more cautious on the sector. It is not a risk free investment.

Poor sentiment days are here again. As with most stocks, WTK succumbed to selling pressure and is now below 50 sen. Time to add on.

Koon's wrinkled old ass must have been kicked by the sudden market downturn. No way to cash out any meaningful position from Subur Tiasa last few days with daily trading volumes well below 1 million shares. Good thing few, if any, believes the trickster anymore.

While other small cap palm oil plantation counters are giving back some price gains today, laggard WTK remains resilient. A really good sign of better things to come soon! From now till end May , accumulate further on weakness during poor sentiment days.