Even funds, a lot of them are short to mid-term investors, don't really believe they are long-term investors, because of "pressure in their lives". Even they are able to see further than you, they are tied by "pressure in their lives" to do their best. You have the advantage of strategy if you understand this and yourself.

I can only say that it is still worth to sell your oil palm plantation and put the money in UP, shut the computer and go for your holidays, and you'll be good. So what does it mean? You may ask, why myself is sitting in front of computer? I'm just telling that even if you do as I said you'll still be good and happy for the rest of your time.

This is the "coffee break", bro. Short and brief. Like how it is said, probably just a cup of coffee and and curry puff. You know what is going to happen next.

Let's celebrate UP becoming a member of 10 billion Ringgit club.

The limit of your target price is the limit of your knowledge regarding to the stock and your competitors for the shares. I changed it a several times due to this reason.

My view:
Valuation from a few different methods by myself show that RM 28 is not impossible. RM 23 is still a bargain buy.
A lot of values discovered along the way I do further research.

My prediction:
It may touch 28 faster than we expect because big capitals will compete for the shares. There is no more chance to accumulate slowly at attractive price, so they will compete with each other at fair price for remaining scarce resources. I suppose this is a kind of common phenomena that sometime happens.

This is just my speculation. To share my unproven idea before the outcome and get it proven right/wrong is my hobby.

What is known cannot be made unknown.

Now UP has become very well known. It is like a star born on the stage of Britain's Got Talent. Its valuation can never go back to before.

It will make the newspaper headline tomorrow, up RM 1.

If there are so many happy buyers go for KLK at 22, I begin to think what the hell can make UP go back to 21? What the hell? 🤣 Don't know why this mind struck me just now. I never thought of that before.

BudiLee, thank you for so generous to share the news with us. 🤣

How many days it take to reach 28? I need to know how many can of beers to buy.

@JrWarren, I don't like the private placement, it is not fair to small shareholders like me. Eventhough the dividend policy looks decent, both the oil yield and transparency / disclosure of business is still fall behind by very far. @Tanleechoo, I can't identify one, that's why I ask for idea.

We know UP is the best. Who is the 2nd best?

So quiet today. Everyone must be busy reading the report.

I love you Dato' Carl-Bek Nielsen

Good dividend

Thanks. I couldn't find it in 3rd QR so I asked.

Hope the report to be published today so that we have time to read 😀

In fact, the biggest concern should be demand for the product and profit margin. I mention these 2 only because dividend policy is crystal clear. A temporary minor production problem is a good distract to me and some of us.But I also think the management should have done better about the maintenance.

I anticipate the impact is minor because in the past 3 years the production was far from full capacity so I think temporary knock out of one old production line would not loose much sales compare to Q4. We are actually buying because of anticipated better result starts from 2H 2024. Don't forget the advanced totally brand new gas fired production line that is to be setup. If you are worried go and find in local mall any serious prolong out of stock of the crackers. Answer is NO, I have been observing for 2 months. Haha.

Ya. But it happened quite a few months ago. So they moved some of the worker to work additional night shift. That's the reason Q4 is still able to shine.The oven out because order too good it got over heated. After repaired the sales will soar higher.

Yes, it has changed to become really good, since a few quarter ago, and is still very good now. Hello everyone.

Gong Xi Fa Cai. Gaduh during cny bo ong ya. Forget the pass and look forward to future.

@KCLow, if you don't respect me then I will call you low kock creature. Your father gives you this name exactly suit you because you like to talk about kock. You are low. And is a talking creature. So the name KClow a.k.a. low kock creature. You own it. Thanks to your father.

If one doesn't have a good manner and behavior, he is nothing but a low creature no matter how much money he earns. Invest in your good manner or you will fail your life with nobody respect and love you, including your family members.

If one disagree to that then one should be happy to invest in a company that is stingy in giving out dividend. But I think most people invest in UP because div matter.

And div has BIG influence on share price. I think this is undeniable fact that most people believe, although different people value a company differently. What doesn't matter to us may be matter to a lot of other people. While other people also have their right to vote by buying / selling the shares, their action will affect the market cap or the share price.

Hi Ooi, FD 2023 paid in 2024. That's why.

How did you arrive at 1.65? I thought the correct figure is 0.8+0.7=1.5

Hi Mobaobg,

If FD only 70 sen, possible? What will the price be then?

That is not shooting star. That is prosperous mole. This is the sign where the price will go up RM 19 at least before the dragon arrives next year.

I want to see your suggestions which fit the all or part of above criteria. Who knows maybe your suggestion is better.

Tip: It is inexpensive now, and almost certain performing better in 2024 and 2025 due to improving fundamentals, generous dividend payout, and most importantly, protect your investment from cyclical factors affecting UP's performance.

I saw Ooi's deleted comments. I already have something in my mind but that is not included in his deleted list. I'd like to see more suggestions. What you really think is wonderful to invest if you already have UP.

If UP is your main investment, what other stock is best to balance your portfolio?

That I agree...

A lot of poeple believe a chance for the stock to be priced at 20 one day, with good reasoning and rationale, but a few like you with NIAT JAHAT of a quick buck by taking advantage of people by creating fear of missing out. The more JAHAT you are, the more udang sebalik batu of you getting exposed. That is really stup*d. If you know how to hide your NIAT, you can have a better chance. But JAHAT and STUP*D at the same time your plan will fail very uglily. Even if you are able to bag some profit, it is not because of your plan get through, but just because of your luck. But your JAHAT deeds actually reducing your chance or speed of making profit. Learn to be polite if you want to be a successful cunt.

Not only I am able to say you are the one that is dumb, I am also able to prove you ARE dumb, as explained above.

If you have 100% faith in the price you mention, go borrow the whole bank and buy it yourself, no need to ask and shout getting people to buy. You have plenty of opportunity to do so as it hit 16.50 a few times, no need to come out make a belly dance to catch attention when the price bounce to 17.00. You made so much noise because you hate people "damage" your plan. You think like this because you are really dumb due to your very narrow mind in believing other people are dumb too. One useful skill is to be recognise the ill minds of people like you to reduce the risks of investment (which is also costs of investment).

Do you really care people miss the chance to make a fortune kah? You are so kind to make sure people hit a lottery kah? I tell you what, a conclusion of the price will go up to 20 is a rubbish, pure rubbish if you cannot give resonable and substational rationale that it worth that much. A conclusion without a proper method and evidence to support, is PURE RUBBISH.

@KClow, don't bother if it is dumb. Why bother? 😁 If you think it is dumb there are two possibilities: Really it is dumb or you are too dumb to understand, either one. Why you CANNOT WAIT for the price to go up? You cannot bear the interest rate kah? Or you think it is too risky for yourself to hold for another 6 months? Nothing else than NIAT JAHAT. 🤣

High gearing fast growing tech stock may get traction after interest rate cut. But interest rate cut could be also the signal of economy starts to get into trouble. In the end it goes back to the fundamentals whether or not US and advanced market people have excess money for durable tech products.

Next time I will share in more details why I know the price could be "fake" and why you should not just see the closing price. However I think that my statement has already spurred your curiosity and trigger you to think "why" yourself and get some ideas, which I have no time to explain in length here. That curiosity and eagerness to know are more meaningful and helpful, I hope.

We have increased the cost of some speculators. 😂

Don't laugh... it is really possible to reach 20. And I hate to be tempted. 🤣

Actually I can choose to be queit and take advantage of it.

It was artificially pushed up after 17.24. The buyer and seller are the same person at price beyond 17.24. Too fake. I hope the price to go to 20 too. But this kind of price manipulation is very unhealthy.

Conclusion: Don't trust anyone to buy or sell at specific price (you can't even know whether they are actually buying or selling), do your homework and set the target buying/selling price yourself. This should be the way, safe one. Only buy the one you know, what you don't know, it doesn't belong to you no matter how good it is.

Once you are able to do that, you don't really mind to be alone, without any follower, without any echo, without anyone's approval, without the need to prove yourself (because you are your own boss, your money your say). You just need to make sure you are responsible to yourself in everything to you do when boils down to the decision of buying or selling a thing. Whenever I buy or sell, I don't give a damn care to what other people say inside or outside the forum. I only refer to MY homework.