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144 comment(s). Last comment by ChaoSui 2016-05-04 11:41

RyanC

121 posts

Posted by RyanC > 2016-05-01 09:07 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha. All who follow the Pump-and-Dump Guru kena conned. I hv been saying this 4 yrs.

My portfolio only 1 REIT stk already outperform the Fake Guru by long margin. Can never make loss n steadily compounding. Nice 2 see he is losing in d game n his credibility as well. Time 4 u 2 be humbled.

Fake Guru take u 2 Holland again. No need ticket on AAX - FREE flight.

TanDavid88

1,082 posts

Posted by TanDavid88 > 2016-05-01 09:19 | Report Abuse

Posted by VenFx > Apr 30, 2016 08:21 PM | Report Abuse

OTB sir, u are real gentleman. Thanks for the clarification.

Mr Ooi,
I know you are very gentleman, you do not need to apologize.
Final decision to buy is on us.
Overall, I am still in net profit to follow your stock pick.
May god blessed you always.

Ricky Kiat

1,356 posts

Posted by Ricky Kiat > 2016-05-01 09:30 | Report Abuse

Support u , Sifu OOI.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 09:32 | Report Abuse

Con con

The difference is KYY do it with his own money.....risk and rewards are his.
This OTB declares himself a sifu and teach others about stock picking and stock market.....it is other people' s money.

Lose money OTB give them back?

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 09:43 | Report Abuse

Weath advisers.
A professional wealth adviser will sought to understand the requirements of the specific clients.
An Internet sifu tries to convince you he has found theOne Key to unlocking all the secrets of the stock market......with his 20 formulas and accounting ratios.
It works if the stock market is a Maths problem waiting to be solved. But, it is not a math problem per se.

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-01 09:53 | Report Abuse

snake Desa, jealousy is jealousy. No need to give it a different name

confuse

570 posts

Posted by confuse > 2016-05-01 10:01 | Report Abuse

I am confused. Why leader KH Neoh only has 2 posts whereas the lousy participants talk so much?
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stock_pick_2016/95721.jsp

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 10:05 | Report Abuse

I am here to throw light on a very important topic.
Jealousy got nothing to do with it.

It's called debate and this is a public forum.

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-01 10:26 | Report Abuse

this is a public forum - hijacked by snake to pursue his personal agenda

what personal agenda ?

(1) flatter tycoon;
(2) attack his existing adviser;
(3) exhibit his own skill

with ultimate aim of replacing the existing adviser

all are for personal gain, but done in the name of greater good

Yumi33

20 posts

Posted by Yumi33 > 2016-05-01 11:43 | Report Abuse

Well, Each person have their own view. We must have our own view. Listen to anyone or news then is our own risk. Remember cut loss within your risk can affort to loss.

Ooi Teik Bee

11,167 posts

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-05-01 11:55 | Report Abuse

Dear Ks55,

Thank you. I will say sorry if I had offended you, it is not my intention. I do not wish to attack any writer in I3.

Please accept my apology.
Thank you.

Kheng

1,167 posts

Posted by Kheng > 2016-05-01 12:25 | Report Abuse

Trading strategies r employed to counter the dynamic market changes. Your hands r considered tied in your fight against Mr Market if u r disallowed to use your strategies to counter the latter as n when the need arises, handicapping your performance while allowing MR Market to run riot at his whim n fancy. This is definitely not a fair game for traders.

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 12:52 | Report Abuse

This competition is structured in such a way traders are disadvantaged in that cut loss and stock switching cannot be applied.I propose to Mr Tan to set up another competition in which all strategies including stop loss can be applied next year.Then we can really see who is 'best of the best'.

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 13:01 | Report Abuse

No one will ever hold a portfolio through a crash.

mcheat

60 posts

Posted by mcheat > 2016-05-01 13:09 | Report Abuse

Aiyo.....its still not the end of contest period yet, why so fast jump to conclusion?

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 13:10 | Report Abuse

Wow here comes the bull shit!Wakakaka!And the bull will delete his post in 5 minutes.

fengtzekai

125 posts

Posted by fengtzekai > 2016-05-01 13:12 | Report Abuse

Posted by Icon8888 > May 1, 2016 10:26 AM

clap clap clap

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 13:13 | Report Abuse

Hey bull,my face skin not thick like yours la.

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-01 13:49 | Report Abuse

ME : Funny to read this, Desa aka stockmanmy can't even improved him self developing. Yet, expecting a perfect father . Simple is that, for me there are no such perfect Traaders ; it's only a probability of win & loose.
Why take it so hard.
OTB , no doubt a superior traders . But , not 100% perfect.
Could you ? Any one here claim himself to be 100% perfect ? That's nut only to declare that.
So, Desa aka stockmanmy don't ask for a perfect father if u are not as good as u want to be.


Posted by stockmanmy > May 1, 2016 10:05 AM | Report Abuse 

I am here to throw light on a very important topic. 
Jealousy got nothing to do with it. 

It's called debate and this is a public forum.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 14:05 | Report Abuse

Con con

You really think I am good enough to be a Con con to a tycoon? To even replace an existing con con?

I have no such ambition. I have no commercial interests in my postings here. Free advise Yes.....I will give free advise if asked and sometimes even when not asked.

But no commercial interest. No ambition to replace anyone.

My own track record do not warrant such ambition

Whatever I do and write is because that is how I see it.....straight. Without fear or favor, no apologies, no political correctness, no commercial interest, no hidden agenda, no ambition of any sorts,

Just the way it is

And stock market is not a Math problem to be solved.
It is something bigger, much bigger and much more interesting.

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-01 14:09 | Report Abuse

Wakaka, nut saying.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 14:22 | Report Abuse

Let me repeat.........

OTB approach is small cap high beta stocks

Didn't work this year.

His formulas did not give him any protection against market downturn....in fact, his formulas focused his risks, concentrated his portfolio risks making his performance worse than random, worse than the Index worse than that of a beginner.


no risk no gain.
.......

Fact? I consider that fact enough

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-01 14:33 | Report Abuse

Those will be truthful statements if they are from anybody else

But having seen how snake willing to PLP tycoon, no amount of sweet words and explanation can convince me that snake is a person of integrity and acting out of fairness and good intention.

Snake is snake, no matter how it says it, it is always hiss hiss hiss

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-01 14:40 | Report Abuse

In my time in i3, I noticed lots of people talk about moats as if moats come from some magical accounting ratios or PE or cash in bank.

In reality, there are no such moats. The only real moats come from entry and exit points and from diversifications. And of diversifications being the only free lunch in town.

False comfort, like security blankets and mesmerizing formulas can do more harm than good if they give people the false sense of security.

Moats then become death doors.

klee

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Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 15:07 | Report Abuse

As predicted,the ever bull shitting fortunebullx deleted his comment here and created a new nic 'kleee' to attack me.Ah bull,you are too old oledi.So senile,so predictable,really laugh die me wakakakakaka.

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-01 15:09 | Report Abuse

Bull,when crude oil will top usd200.00 har?wakakakaka.

NicholasNWH90

1,114 posts

Posted by NicholasNWH90 > 2016-05-01 15:11 | Report Abuse

Haih. Why spread hate in forum? We are here to help and learn from each other.

Posted by truthseeker1 > 2016-05-01 19:10 | Report Abuse

When did KC Chong support Reit? Which KC Chong counter ks55 own?

Posted by ks55 > May 1, 2016 11:46 AM | Report Abuse
OTB - I want to PLP you.
I agree with what you say below.
Just like what I appreciate kcchongnz preaching: BUY Good Share Cheap.

Posted by ks55 > May 1, 2016 04:40 PM | Report Abuse
Hiu Chee Keong -- I have 15m net worth. Many people already knew that.
Dividend income from REITs is 200k every year.

paperplane2016

21,619 posts

Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-01 20:48 | Report Abuse

Who dunno mom is ldy? Knowing and executing different.

Ooi Teik Bee

11,167 posts

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-05-02 00:48 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockmanmy > May 1, 2016 02:22 PM | Report Abuse

Let me repeat.........

OTB approach is small cap high beta stocks

Didn't work this year.

His formulas did not give him any protection against market downturn....in fact, his formulas focused his risks, concentrated his portfolio risks making his performance worse than random, worse than the Index worse than that of a beginner.

Ans : Please go and ask your typhoon, my approach or strategy work or not.
Your typhoon gave me RM 4 million to invest in August 2015, I made a profit of 1.96 million within 6 months for him. 50% ROI within 6 months.
Most of the profit were made in 2016. Please do not tell me my strategy did not work in 2016. He told all investors in Ipoh on 16/4/2016 during my market talk.

stockmanmy, you are a tin kosong only in I3. Respect has to earn, but not give freely which is no value to me.

Please talk with facts and figures, faked CPA.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 00:53 | Report Abuse

Lots of people makes money from the stock market.

Does not make whatever I write in this thread any less true.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 03:07 | Report Abuse

The other way round is more correct.

If I am not a CPA, I might be mesmerized by your 20 formulas.....

At the end of the day, your 20 formulas were unable to help to predict when your recommendations collapse.

So where is the 30% margin of safety you talk about?

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-02 08:00 | Report Abuse

CPA does not worth a penny

Very often it is a stumbling block to successful investing

stockmanmy aka Desa PLP is one good example

He worked until 60 yo and still cant send kids overseas to study, very rare among investor parents (OTB can send kids to Mars if he wants)

After retiring poor, CPA now try to PLP to riches

Pathetic

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-02 08:06 | Report Abuse

No monder why Desa aka stockmanmy can't see the huge potential in my JingHengMonyet.

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-02 08:10 | Report Abuse

Another example are ; he is prefer Puc to Tekseng; D&o to Jhm. Sona - warrant...and so on
The only pick is keinhing, which I think he has been enter at 0.95.

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-02 08:12 | Report Abuse

You can't make money if you don't diversify ? Ya, that is what textbooks tell u, and CPA faithfully reproduced here as his own wisdom

Last year I didn't diversify, loaded up export stocks, I made tonnes of money (so much until Desa will ditch Koon and switch to PLP me, if he see the figures)

But beginning of this year, when Ringgit strengthens, I started to sell down export stocks (as discussed in my earlier article Rebalancing My Portfolio) and I am ok now.

So who said you can't concentrate on one sector ? Who said you must diversify ? I did well last year without diversification, as long as I made right decision to get out.

CPA please stop quoting textbook. You are childish. And you sound desperate

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-02 08:13 | Report Abuse

Icon8888 has proven again, with his further sights move.

Icon8888

18,658 posts

Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-02 08:16 | Report Abuse

PLP began with the year 100% concentrated on export stocks. Famously said that "in a bankrupt country, no stocks investible except for export stocks"

Now he preaches diversification

Why the inconsistency ? Because the motive is to attack Koon existing adviser so as to replace him so as to earn big fat fee

PLP needs money. He is desperate.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 10:23 | Report Abuse

Very often success is a precursor to an even bigger failure especially for one mesmerized by his own One Key that promises to unlock the secrets to the stock market.

It's called no risk no gain on a collection of small caps as in this model portfolio.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 13:55 | Report Abuse

This is a very materialistic world, got a little bit of success , everybody including Con Con and all the con men of the world treats you like God, stock God......its trouble for both the God and the Angels.


The solution....ignore them.

stockmanmy

6,977 posts

Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 14:00 | Report Abuse

What makes a person think he is stock God?


Ask a psychologist.

Ooi Teik Bee

11,167 posts

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-05-02 14:36 |

Post removed.Why?

Probability

14,450 posts

Posted by Probability > 2016-05-02 14:48 | Report Abuse

hmm...investing on all these warrants from OTB is going to be super killer investment strategy at this price. May be can expect 50% return already by end of the year... just my feelings :)

Imagine if the USD strengthens further against RM...
anyway - lets not prolong this thread unnecessarily without any meaningful discussions...other than just debating on 'people'.

Guess all very lazy to crack on the 'investments itself' and stingy to share hard useful data...

soros228

2,034 posts

Posted by soros228 > 2016-05-02 16:29 | Report Abuse

Well said Icon8888.
I'm observing for the past one year; Icon8888 still the best of the best in i3.
Desa is nothing to compare.

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-02 16:41 | Report Abuse

Fortunebullx is best in i3 too....alas in the bull shit category wakakaka.

klee

3,119 posts

Posted by klee > 2016-05-02 16:42 | Report Abuse

Fortunebullx also best in i3 for the fastest post and delete category...yeeehaaaaa.

duitKWSPkita

26,756 posts

Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-05-02 16:48 | Report Abuse

Let me remind u all.... To become the ultimate champ/winner u must practise this. No other solution.

Here you go.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVhv6Y4wgw

VenFx

14,784 posts

Posted by VenFx > 2016-05-02 18:30 | Report Abuse

“You can’t make a good deal with a bad person” Warren Buffett

Guess Who Is The Bad Monkey Here ?

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2016-05-02 19:58 | Report Abuse

I didn't think anyone is interested. But if you want to pit a defensive portfolio against an aggressive portfolio, I have no objections.



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CBIP - 2.25 X 9000 2025
Ekovest - 1.42 X 1500 2130
Ecoworld - 1.29 X 1500 1935
Taan - 4.79 X 200 958
Jtiasa - 1.35 x 700 945
Total capital = 10093




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Gkent - 1.71
Mitra-WD - 0.49
Kimlun-WA - 0.705
Pohuat-WB - 0.675
Hevea-WB - 0.96
Tguan-WA - 1.84
WTK - 1.20
MKH-WB - 0.99
Total capital = 11,645

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-02 21:13 |

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