@connie... Like I said before, there are many Sifu with even more tactics... Take them all in but remember to work on finding your own edge from them..
It'd be nice to chat with like minded traders but I only post when I'm in the mood.. Anyway, with your experience and knowledge, the book I recommended to you earlier will give you many ah-ha moments
but otb my profit from hengyuan enough to cover for the counter i lost money in fact still got a tidy sum :)
so otb make some bad stock pick but he also make good stock pick and the profit from good pick way MORE than enough to cover the bad stock pick.. so to me all is good
if u want complete 100 percent sure untung dont subsribe to otb and oso dont play bursa. just play fd
otb to me is one of bursa's top sifu. that my view
OTB is misleading his subsribers. For Hengyuan case, he guarantee there is no tax in Q4 2018. But the fact is there is tax of 63743k. Besides, he always quote the forumers like purebull and Fund_manager and follow them blindly , without verify their true identity and true intention. Before the quarter result of HY announce, he agree fund_manager statement that not to sell HY at 15.00, because selling it at 15.00 is like throwing gold into sea. But the fact is after result announce, the share price drops to 7.80 like no tomorrow.If you share a neutral view, it is better than you said something with no solid proof. Will a real fund manager shares their insight view to you in public forum? Furthermore, he asked his subsribers to buy back HY shares all the way down from from 16.64 to 12.52 following fibonacci retracement method. For those who bought back,they will incur huge loss at the current price of 7.80. Very disappointed with OTB, a lowsy sifu . Hope he can realise his own mistake. Not only that many more misleading info from him. If i want to wrote further, this is a long huge list. Withn this, i should stop here.
My advise stop subscribe to this subscription as otb core belief is different to yours. I subscribed to otb once but only confuse me perhaps due to core belief. I believe otb system is non logical. Personal opinion. Don't subscribe to him, otherwise it will result in negative wealth to you. That is the 1st step. Subscribe to Dr neoh dynaquest. Then it forced u to do self learning and improve. Write down your own thought on your per buy/sell. Perhaps one day u can overtake otb and command a subscription fee... Hehehe
Fully agree with Cheoky. I was a subscriber once for both newsletter and fund mgmt service. Dropped both after almost losing 60% of my portfolio on top of the excessive brokerage fees. I'm slowly but surely recovering from my losses on my own! Moral of the story here - it's better to trust self than to put your trust on the so called pros. If you compared the analysis services provided, they are purely fundamentals and technical info which could be obtained easily via your brokerage tools. The reason why Warren Buffet is so successful is because of his insights and understanding of a business he's interested. Not saying that a subscription service should be offering insights like WB but at least, the so called expert would need to have a good understanding of the business. Churning out FA and TA data can be done by using high school students paid RM4-5/hour!
When KLSE is super bearish, this type of note will come out to discredit me. I do not care so much on the complaint in I3 because most of attackers are not my followers.
I will feel sorry if they are my followers. However, there is no sure win in stock market. I just try my best to provide the best service.
Heavenly, Famous peopples usually just cant satisfy all sort of peopples around. He just need to stick what he best for.
Not all bad for the famous one being commended sacarstic-ly . At least there are alot of energy. It will remind the famous one to make use of it. Good qi & bad qi will be equal finally.
====> OTB Ans : Looking at all aforesaid postings, they are purposely insulting me especially the below statement. His knowledge of stock trading is Zero ooi teik bee the below par analyst
They knew that I am the champion for 2015 stock pick competition. They knew that I am in top 3 of 2019 stock pick competition.
They still wanted to insult me on purpose.
It is very logical for me to challenge them to take part in I3 stock pick competition to ensure they can proof that they are better than me. Without any track record, how to say that my knowledge of stock trading is zero and my performance is below par. They cannot proof that they are better than me in all aspects.
I answer in this manner is classified as "cocky". To me it is a bully on me.
In I3, I never attack any person. I never insult any person. I never bully any person.
I never tell lies here. I talk with facts and figures. I showed proof to all attackers.
Is my behavior "arrogance or cocky" ? I leave it to all readers here to assess me.
To those who bully me and bad mouth me with lies, I am very sure Karma will hit hard on them especially kelvin.
You can continue to bully and attack me, I do not even bother about what you had said and write. I believe all readers here are intelligent enough to judge for themselves who are the liars and who is the gentleman.
Thank you. Ooi
Reply==> Wow, OTB is going from Cina apek English write up to grammatically correct English. He must have polished up on his English to be as good as his stock analysis skills or he is getting one of his many high school interns to do it. Either way, the subscribers fee and killer brokerage fees are doing wonders.
I m an ex-subscriber of Mr TBOoi 3-4 years ago. Those days I received weekly email from him, they r usually 10 recommended stocks or more, recommended to buy bcoz those stocks hv met his stocks selection criteria, if the following week, a said stock still met his selection criteria, the stock will again appeared in the recommended list. It's difficult to choose which to buy or not to buy, and most of the mostly I just "by-standing". Well, another thing is he was frontrunning & the price his subscribers manage to buy is definitely higher than his, sometimes 10% higher. That said, I can't blame him for frontrunning bcoz if I were in his situation I also will do the same. Mr Poi service is a willing buyer willing seller sort of things. If we find that his service idoesn't help much in making money for us, we just don't continue to subscribe the following year. No need to make a fuss, a big fuss in i3 forum. After all, Mr Ooi service is a professional one n I would say he is honest to help his subscribers to make money, but sometimes things don't turn out so rosy, after all it's a stock market.
Well i wonder if otb even has a license to give financial advice..and also charging for the advice.. For those who were cheated can make report to securities commmision..
In my opinion the is no need to complain or say someone is bad or good. The fact is OTB put his neck out to get results and then sell subscription. I am an ex subscriber of OTB, but I have just taken the information as is and added it to my own valuation methods instead of just closing my mind and buying blind. How can you expect good results if you are just relying on third party advice without understanding their valuation methods.
I would say, OTB method of valuation is not always accurate, and there is no possible way of choosing stocks every week as a recommendation and get good results all the time.
I mean, if OTB was that good, he would be spending most of his time researching and hiring a team of analysts and buying stocks in a professional level instead of selling subscription services and teaching classes right?
So you need to be aware of what you are buying. At least OTB makes picks and stands by it with his portfolio results ( which is how you started subscribing in the first place).
It is far better in my opinion to individuals like kcchongnz, choivo capital, calvintaneng or stockraider who don't have any portfolio results but are so strong in promotion of stocks.
You walked in knowing it is a recommendation: do your own due diligence.
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
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@connie... Like I said before, there are many Sifu with even more tactics... Take them all in but remember to work on finding your own edge from them..
It'd be nice to chat with like minded traders but I only post when I'm in the mood.. Anyway, with your experience and knowledge, the book I recommended to you earlier will give you many ah-ha moments
All the best