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qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 12:47 | Report Abuse

kcchongnz > May 15, 2019 5:47 AM | Report Abuse

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what I know is I prefer his portfolio to your portfolio....more quality......so how?

kc....

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 12:53 | Report Abuse

y kcchongnz > May 14, 2019 8:38 PM | Report Abuse

I seriously don't understand the logic, do you?
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of course u don't understand the logic....As I say about u.....u are too robotic, too mechanical.

Be flexible, be water.....flexible and water....can conquer any thing every thing. Be happy and positive, miracles do happen....

be like kc, then how? all u can say is don't understand.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 13:01 | Report Abuse

bloggers got no rules......it is the objective of bloggers / coaches / subscription services to create excitement.

so kc.....

how to compare IB analysts with bloggers? Bloggers got no rules one.....


my son says services to institution clients better than what retail gets. For VIP clients, they can whisper whisper stuffs they cannot put in black and white....got rules one.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 13:37 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 15, 2019 1:36 PM | Report Abuse X

pjseow > May 15, 2019 1:32 PM | Report Abuse

Both articles from Davidtslim and KCChong provided a detailed analysis of Nett Cash Generation for the last 3 to 5 years . The average nett cash generated per year from 2014 to 2018 was 237 million . THis is equivalent to 25 sen cash per share although the average eps on the book was only 10 sen per year . The paper loss was mainly due to impairment loss from the acquisistion of Perdana . Last year alone , Dayang generated almost 300 million cash which is more than 30 sen per share although eps on the book is only 17 sen .Dayang has been able to pay off a total of 700 million debt for the last 3 years . With the recovery of oil prices plus strong order book of 3 billion , 2019 is expected to generate more cash than 2018. THe management has committed to further improve the balance sheet with the strong order book which will last till 2023 .
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at $ 1.70.............the same analysis is also available. People blindly use this analysis and buy at $ 1.70 die already....so how?

moral of the story...there is more to stock market than blind analysis..............especially rear wheel drive analysis.....

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-15 18:01 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
Quack accountant remember; Malaysian forget easily and easily cheated by con man. Have you forgotten that I am trying to drive a wedge between you and Mr. Koon? You are what you are, a fake accountant, snake-oil salesman and a con man. If Mr. Koon fallen into your PLP trap again, he is going to lose many more millions.
So I am trying to save Mr. Koon’s millions which he can put to good use for scholarship and charity work.

By the way on May 9 Dayang trade between 1.35-1.29. When you wrote on May 9, 2019 9:17 PM “KYY just whatsapp me says he bought 300,000 lots Dayang at $ 1.31” your definition of JUST is refer to week, month or year ago? LOL

Please allow me to teach you what just mean:
Adverb:
Just mean very recently; in the immediate past.
Sinonim: a moment ago, a second ago, a short time ago, very recently, only now.

Thank you
P/S: US late night talk-show love to make fun at Donald Trump’s lies. Nowadays I start to enjoy exposing your lies and poking fun at you. LOL

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 18:19 | Report Abuse

sslee...get off my back, all your assumptions are wrong......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-15 18:20 | Report Abuse

“KYY just whatsapp me says he bought 300,000 lots Dayang at $ 1.31” ...................that day lah.....FU.......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 01:43 | Report Abuse

sslee....u are just a novice, stock market not for you.......

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-16 08:27 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
Quack accountant don’t CLAB, be brave, be mean YOLO attend JAKS AGM FFFXXXQQQ ALP attend SENDAI AGM PLPQQQBBB TSN when he is going to pay up the F$$$$$$$$$?
ROFL.

10Q
P/S: If you don't get the message you can ask young man Heavenly Punter to translate for you.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 09:32 | Report Abuse

sslee

I not interested to go AGM fcuk people......

I value my sleep more.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 09:36 | Report Abuse

If I go to AGM of Jaks and Sendai....I will go to defend the company against misinformation and misunderstandings.......but I think no need lah.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 09:59 | Report Abuse

by kcchongnz > May 15, 2019 5:47 AM | Report Abuse

Does it look like this young man needs any advice from you?
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but I think u need help......KYY selling Dayang a few days ago is KYY business .....why u say u don't understand?

the price today $ 1.16.....he says he sell some to avoid force selling , just in case....why cannot meh?

must ask your permission first?

Jester

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Posted by Jester > 2019-05-16 12:13 | Report Abuse

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER Research IB > May 13, 2019 8:41 AM | Report Abuse

SO... Are you a millionaire?

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HAHAHAHA. I like what punter brings to discussion sometimes. But what a question lol

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-16 14:23 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 16, 2019 9:59 AM | Report Abuse
but I think u need help......KYY selling Dayang a few days ago is KYY business .....why u say u don't understand?
the price today $ 1.16.....he says he sell some to avoid force selling , just in case....why cannot meh?
must ask your permission first?


No lah,he can do whatever he likes lah, but can explain your comments below ah? Are you accusing your master a dishonest man? Please lah, he is a well known person in Malaysia with reputation. Don't damage his reputation please!


Posted by qqq3 > May 8, 2019 11:38 PM | Report Abuse
at $ 1.50.....I told KYY , selling Dayang at between $ 1.60 to $ 1.80 is called smart. I made that comment not once but several times.........He wrote back to say he cannot be so dishonest as to sell at $ 1.70 when he has just been writing about it....To me, it is money or honor, KYY chose honor.

Posted by qqq3
“ps....KYY just whatsapp me says he bought 300,000 lots Dayang at $ 1.31................u jealous or what? KYY and I cannot exchange whatsapp?
09/05/2019 7:14 PM”

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 16:31 | Report Abuse

kc...where is the lie ? what lie?

he bot some at $ 1.31...and subsequently sold some at below that.......got scared of trade wars.........very common behavior.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-16 16:43 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 16, 2019 4:31 PM | Report Abuse
kc...where is the lie ? what lie?
he bot some at $ 1.31...and subsequently sold some at below that.......got scared of trade wars.........very common behavior.

Posted by vespa > May 16, 2019 4:38 PM | Report Abuse
if you are subscribe to Shareinvestor it has top 20 shareholding; KYY had sold out just after April 22

Posted by qqq3 > May 8, 2019 11:38 PM | Report Abuse
at $ 1.50.....I told KYY , selling Dayang at between $ 1.60 to $ 1.80 is called smart. I made that comment not once but several times.........He wrote back to say he cannot be so dishonest as to sell at $ 1.70 when he has just been writing about it....To me, it is money or honor, KYY chose honor.

Posted by qqq3
“ps....KYY just whatsapp me says he bought 300,000 lots Dayang at $ 1.31................u jealous or what? KYY and I cannot exchange whatsapp?
09/05/2019 7:14 PM”
16/05/2019 2:23 PM

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 18:05 | Report Abuse

kc...u and the novice sslee...too obsessed with KYY and with conspiracy theories..........

For the masses, focus on quality is good advise/ sufficient advise.......

For pros like me, I do anything, good , bad, ugly also I do.

For sslee..........the novice got wrong focus...he likes to focus on lousy companies like Insas, TA, Xinguan,

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER Research IB > 2019-05-16 18:11 | Report Abuse

I am trying to gauge whether I am likely to become millionaire by the age I become unker mah.... But I know it's a stupid question lah Hahaha

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Posted by Jester > May 16, 2019 12:13 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Heavenly PUNTER Research IB > May 13, 2019 8:41 AM | Report Abuse

SO... Are you a millionaire?

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HAHAHAHA. I like what punter brings to discussion sometimes. But what a question lol

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 18:20 |

Post removed.Why?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2019-05-16 19:29 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
Quack accountant by your standard, I will be considered as super-rich. Do you know how much I earned as General Manager? How much dividend I received form my dividend stocks? Pity your little and tiny sausage. LOL

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 19:42 | Report Abuse

kc...............kyy did not reach 5% in dayang and has no statutory requirement to disclose his transactions...............

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-16 19:43 | Report Abuse

Sslee > May 16, 2019 7:29 PM | Report Abuse

Hahahaha,
Quack accountant by your standard, I will be considered as super-rich
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I couldn't be bothered if u are richer than Warren Bufett.................

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 10:42 | Report Abuse

kc......

SCGM....95
Dayang ...115

have I convinced you to focus more on quality and less on over/under valutions?

more business sense and less rear view drive?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 10:53 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 10:42 AM | Report Abuse
kc......
SCGM....95
Dayang ...115
have I convinced you to focus more on quality and less on over/under valutions?
more business sense and less rear view drive?


Dayang? Did I recommend you to buy, or someone else?

How do you compare the quality of Dayang and Sendai in this post? One with high return on capital and persistent good cash flows in Dayang, and one with return on capital less than half of its capital, and negative free cash flows every year until its debts ballooned to billion, and never get paid the work done for its major shareholder.

Do I talk about the business of the company or the share price movement in this post?

Don't understand the above?

What a stupid self-proclaimed ""accountant""?

The more you quack the more you expose your stupidity. Stupid quack!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 11:53 | Report Abuse

seekers of quality no need sendai or dayang in their portfolio....admittedly I have sendai at 52........

sendai is a contrarian play...contrarian play not easy , never easy but my investment thesis intact...and more accurate than your analysis of sendai.........I just needed a bit more time.

"Do I talk about the business of the company or the share price movement in this post? " ..........why interested in Dayang if not to make money?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 12:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 11:53 AM | Report Abuse
seekers of quality no need sendai or dayang in their portfolio....admittedly I have sendai at 52........

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 09:43 PM | Report Abuse
Sendai is very good to me...I am sitting on 15% profits, not selling yet until I come back from holidays.
Pmetal and Serba.....any drop just buy la.....sure make money one if keep long enough.......
not talking about horse before cannon but talking about the future.......


On October 8 2018, these were the prices

10/8/2018 5/17/2019
Sendai 0.8 0.47 -41.3%
Serba 4.15 4.07 -1.9%
Pmetal 5.15 4.31 -16.3%

How to calculate that your profit was 15% then when Sendai was 80 sen then?

80/52-1=15%? What kind of ""accountant"" you are?

So how much more Pmetal and Serba you have bought after their share prices dropped from Oct 8 2018?

How to triple your investment when every share you touted in i3investor lost money as shown above?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 12:29 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 11:53 AM | Report Abuse
sendai is a contrarian play...contrarian play not easy , never easy but my investment thesis intact...and more accurate than your analysis of sendai.........I just needed a bit more time.

So what is your ""investment thesis"" for Sendai? Can make a post on it ah?

You need time?

You have already give two years but your Sendai price have dropped from RM1.40 to now just 43%. How many % loss?

70% loss my God!

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 12:34 | Report Abuse

What have you done to those touted by you to sailang and margin Sendai from RM1.40 in the last two years?

You better go to temple and kneel down for days to repent!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:38 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 09:43 PM | Report Abuse
Sendai is very good to me...I am sitting on 15% profits, not selling yet until I come back from holidays.
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despite what I said, I cannot resist taking profits soon after I wrote..........see, I am a trader at heart.......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:39 | Report Abuse

by kcchongnz > May 17, 2019 12:29 PM | Report Abuse

You need time?
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time......time is all I need to make money on my sendai at 52.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:40 | Report Abuse

y kcchongnz > May 17, 2019 12:34 PM | Report Abuse

What have you done to those touted by you to sailang and margin Sendai from RM1.40 in the last two years?
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that is your lies....nothing to do with me....

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:43 | Report Abuse

Posted by kcchongnz > May 17, 2019 12:26 PM | Report Abuse

So how much more Pmetal and Serba
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these two shares not bad....high quality shares...but long time ago I no longer have them......

like KYY says....faster running horse....when I find faster running horse, I sell these to buy faster running horse....I am a professional, remember?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 12:49 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 12:38 PM | Report Abuse
Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 09:43 PM | Report Abuse
Sendai is very good to me...I am sitting on 15% profits, not selling yet until I come back from holidays.
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despite what I said, I cannot resist taking profits soon after I wrote..........see, I am a trader at heart.......

What shall someone base on?

The records of what you wrote in the public forum, or shat you said (to who?)?

Look at the stocks you have chosen below and their return now below as shown all over in i3investor,

10/8/2018 5/17/2019
Sendai 0.8 0.47 -41.3%
Serba 4.15 4.07 -1.9%
Pmetal 5.15 4.31 -16.3%


10/31/2018 5/17/2019
KESM 12 7.51 -37.4%
Layhong 0.4 0.455 13.8%
Seacara 0.28 0.22 -21.4%
D&O 0.89 0.62 -30.3%
Elsoft 1.29 0.84 -35.0%
Hibiscus 1.12 1.09 -2.7%

Av -19.2%


Made 200% from RM100k to RM300k? Every share tanked!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:51 | Report Abuse

kcchongnz > May 17, 2019 12:49 PM | Report Abuse

their return now below

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return is what I get after I sold.....not based on today price lah...its called realised profits......

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-17 12:53 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 12:43 PM | Report Abuse
I am a professional, remember?

Sure you must be a professional as below,


Posted by Sslee > May 13, 2019 8:50 AM | Report Abuse
Yes KYY had make his biggest investment mistake because he was hoodwinked/hypnotized by quack accountant into sailang and Margin Finance into JAKs and SENDAI.
So Please stay far away from quack accountant and do not underestimate his hypnotize power as I see many people in this forum still call quack accountant Sifu and ask for his opinion. Only I and KCChong call this good for nothing quack accountant as fake accountant, snake-oil salesman, a fraudster, a backstabber, a bootlicker, an ass-kisser, a shameless manipulator, King of PLP, King of double talk, King of backstabber, King of poison slanderer, King of jealously, King of low life, King of bullshitting and talk cock, King of dishonest, despicable, distasteful, disgusting and evil.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 12:59 | Report Abuse

really meh? I so powerful meh?

not only me, I think there is hardly anyone in the world who can change the mind of KYY, once he has made up his mind.....KYY is a grown man, big boy already....and like all successful man is very confident of himself.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 13:18 | Report Abuse

kc.....there were a few years when small caps gave superior returns, fantastic returns, 2012 to 2016 ( thereabouts)...plenty of small caps at PE below 10 and one by one everyone of them began to perform.

golden era for u.....but not every day is a Sunday.....so , now we are in 2019, so how?

limko1

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Posted by limko1 > 2019-05-17 13:45 | Report Abuse

There are many out there on I3 forum to bewilder, mislead and distort. Just be careful.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-17 13:47 | Report Abuse

limko1 > May 17, 2019 1:45 PM | Report Abuse

There are many out there on I3 forum to bewilder, mislead and distort. Just be careful.
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what don't kill u makes u stronger.

Posted by PotentialGhost > 2019-05-18 00:52 | Report Abuse

Walao Student OTB performance better than Sifu KCchong? OTB需要把 KC吹到上天吗? Diu Nia sing , 真不能看。KC performance really so good ? I don't think so. Just an qualify accountant nia . o0o

chamlo

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Posted by chamlo > 2019-05-18 03:58 | Report Abuse

Talk Diu nia sing bec trap in Teo Seng?

Posted by PotentialGhost > May 18, 2019 12:52 AM | Report Abuse
Walao Student OTB performance better than Sifu KCchong? OTB需要把 KC吹到上天吗? Diu Nia sing , 真不能看。KC performance really so good ? I don't think so. Just an qualify accountant nia . o0o

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-18 14:43 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 17, 2019 1:18 PM | Report Abuse
kc.....there were a few years when small caps gave superior returns, fantastic returns, 2012 to 2016 ( thereabouts)...plenty of small caps at PE below 10 and one by one everyone of them began to perform.
golden era for u.....but not every day is a Sunday.....so , now we are in 2019, so how?

Yes, if you chose the right shares like what I could do, many of them are small or mid caps, you made a lot of money from 2012 to 2016, and 2017 included, and even more, much more in the region of 35%-40%.

How is that compared with Jaks and Sendai you had been shouting sailang and margin during the same period from RM1.80+ and RM1.40+ respectively? You lost your pants and also made many people lost their pants, including the so-called super investor.

For 2018 until now, my ten stocks selected still in positive territory of +6.3% compared to loss of FBMKCI of -8.2% and the small cap index of -24.1%.

Compared with what you posted in i3investor in this few years with all return tanked like below,

10/8/2018 5/17/2019
Sendai 0.8 0.47 -41.3%
Serba 4.15 4.07 -1.9%
Pmetal 5.15 4.31 -16.3%


10/31/2018 5/17/2019
KESM 12 7.51 -37.4%
Layhong 0.4 0.455 13.8%
Seacara 0.28 0.22 -21.4%
D&O 0.89 0.62 -30.3%
Elsoft 1.29 0.84 -35.0%
Hibiscus 1.12 1.09 -2.7%

Av -19.2%


So how?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-18 14:55 | Report Abuse

kc....I have 200% gain in a few years because I take risk....I don't go around selling my services because it is all about risk....Its always risk - reward......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-18 15:06 | Report Abuse

risk free returns.
how to get risk free returns? U and your rear view analysis can get free risk free returns meh?

Trade wars...US DJ have not collapsed. Malaysia small cap index collapsed already.....so much for your rear view analysis.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-18 15:15 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 18, 2019 2:55 PM | Report Abuse
kc....I have 200% gain in a few years because I take risk....I don't go around selling my services because it is all about risk....Its always risk - reward......

200% return from where?

From here?
10/8/2018 5/17/2019
Sendai 0.8 0.47 -41.3%
Serba 4.15 4.07 -1.9%
Pmetal 5.15 4.31 -16.3%

Or here?
10/31/2018 5/17/2019
KESM 12 7.51 -37.4%
Layhong 0.4 0.455 13.8%
Seacara 0.28 0.22 -21.4%
D&O 0.89 0.62 -30.3%
Elsoft 1.29 0.84 -35.0%
Hibiscus 1.12 1.09 -2.7%


Or here?
18/5/19 Return
Jaks 1.80 0.72 -60%
Sendai 1.40 0.43 -69%

Sell your service? What ""service""? In Jalan Alor?

pjseow

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Posted by pjseow > 2019-05-18 15:38 | Report Abuse

KCC, 6.3 % gain within 4 months is considered impressive .What is most important is consistency for long period of time. There were many who made 200% within a few years but lost 80 to 90 % finally. The good examples were the 1998 and 2008 financial crisis. Many look down upon the mere 6.3 % gain within 4 months. The 6.3 % was equivalnt to 18 % per annum. Using the power of 72 ,the capital will be doubled in 4 years. For a period of 20 years,the cumulative return is 32x . I rememered commenting in one of your article that I started with RM 170k in 1998 and made an average of 18 % per annum by adhering consistently on FA for stock selection. My stocks selected were fundamentally sound stocks like public bank,supermx,inari,elsoft ,uchitech,penta,wct,mfcb,tongher,kossan and dayang .Although it is a mere 18% p.a return,the 170k had turned into 5.44 million in 20 years with the 8 wonder of the world and the power of 72. JAKs and Sendai will never meet my stock selection rules.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-05-18 16:11 | Report Abuse

kc...returns are individualized, between buy and sell not between any other period. returns and skills are individualized, not commodities to be exchanged.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-05-18 16:15 | Report Abuse

pjseow,

Yours is a fantastic return in a long period of time. Congrats. Anyone following your fundamental approach in investing will do well.

I remember reading many of your comments in my threads. They are the comments which motivate me. Thank you very much.

Note my return of 6.3% is for 5 quarters from January 2018 to May 2019, and not this 4 months. This has been a tough period for Bursa.

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2019-05-23 16:20 |

Post removed.Why?

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2019-10-12 17:29 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > May 13, 2019 11:37 AM | Report Abuse
kc...your Dayang $ 1.70 to $ 1.24...still the same FA....then how?
Is Dayang a quality share?

Hey Thomas, here is a post specially for you.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/228366.jsp

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