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11 comment(s). Last comment by chinaman 2021-12-08 14:02

Musang King

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Posted by Musang King > 2021-12-07 18:44 | Report Abuse

Yes, If Spore Govt wants the HSR back, ask them to pay us back the RM318.45 Millions we paid foolishly during the PH Regime.

Musang King

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Posted by Musang King > 2021-12-07 18:45 | Report Abuse

Buta buta bayar. Pandai Pakatan Harapan.

ks55

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Posted by ks55 > 2021-12-07 19:01 | Report Abuse

HSR if really needed, should just has last terminal in JB. Why should we foot the bill for the convenience of foreign country, and yet has no final say? Singapore is just piggyback at the expense of Malaysian tax payers, building just 16 km within the island including the bridge (not sure who pay for the bridge) and yet have the gut to ask for more than 300 million 'compensation'. If you calculate on number of man-hour Singapore had put in (say 10k man-hour), very likely each man-hour Singapore was charging us RM 30,000. Does Singaporean command so high salary that every hour worth rm 30,000?

My suggestion is, if really need service of HSR, let starts from Butterworth, and ends in Nusajaya,JB.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2021-12-07 21:03 | Report Abuse

Let me share some insight

1. China was backward 40 years ago.
I remember my family even sent money and canned food to China relatives

Today China is criss crossed by Hsr almost round the earth circumference in length yet Malaysia cannot build a short Kl - Spore Hsr

2. Kl - Spore Hsr should be the starter
If still don't start then when?
It could be connected later from Kl to Bangkok

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2021-12-07 21:10 | Report Abuse

3. If Hsr only ends at Johor it negates two things

I) Where got economy of scale without affluent passengers from Spore? Many Hsr in China are operating below cost. Without Spore the Hsr will incur losses from day one and might turn out to be a white elephant

Ii) Hsr connecting Spore to Kl will bring in the World's tourist as Spore is an Air Hub to the world

From Spore arriving Air passengers can take Hsr straight to Kl
This will boost tourism and the economy of Kl

Plus Johor, Batu Pahat, Melaka and Putra Jaya will benefit

It is known that lands near Japan Shinkansen Hsr rises 46% in value when high speed train is built

The economic benefits outweight the cost

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2021-12-07 21:14 | Report Abuse

It is a real shame that nations less develop like Indonesia, Tibet and Laos are having Hsr while Malaysia falls behind

Are we going to continue falling behind Laos, then Myanmar, then North Korea?

GooShem

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Posted by GooShem > 2021-12-07 21:14 | Report Abuse

Well said Calvin.
That old man has lost his Midas Touch. Why can't he just retire and RIP?

scenery

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Posted by scenery > 2021-12-07 22:03 |

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-08 13:09 | Report Abuse

True loh...why do not want to extend to spore leh ??

Spore got more lucrative customers and also bigger volume of customers mah!

If Hsr only ends at Johor it negates two things

I) Where got economy of scale without affluent passengers from Spore? Many Hsr in China are operating below cost. Without Spore the Hsr will incur losses from day one and might turn out to be a white elephant

Ii) Hsr connecting Spore to Kl will bring in the World's tourist as Spore is an Air Hub to the world

From Spore arriving Air passengers can take Hsr straight to Kl
This will boost tourism and the economy of Kl

Plus Johor, Batu Pahat, Melaka and Putra Jaya will benefit

It is known that lands near Japan Shinkansen Hsr rises 46% in value when high speed train is built

The economic benefits outweight the cost.

U NEED TO THINK STRATEGICALLY LOH...!!

SPORE IS WILLING TO SHARE THE OPERATIONS OF HSR 50:50 BASIS, BUT IT WANT TO ENSURE THE HSR IS RUN VERY EFFICIENTLY SO THAT HSR NOT ONLY NOT TO LOSE MONIES BUT CAN MAKE MONIES MAH (UNLIKE MOST OF THE MSIA PUBLIC TRANSPORT LOSS ALOT OF MONIES MAH!].
MSIA GOVT SHOULD JUMP INTO THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY WORKING & LEARNING WITH THIS HIGHLY EFFICIENT SPORE PARTNER MAH!



Posted by ks55 > Dec 7, 2021 7:01 PM | Report Abuse

HSR if really needed, should just has last terminal in JB. Why should we foot the bill for the convenience of foreign country, and yet has no final say? Singapore is just piggyback at the expense of Malaysian tax payers, building just 16 km within the island including the bridge (not sure who pay for the bridge) and yet have the gut to ask for more than 300 million 'compensation'. If you calculate on number of man-hour Singapore had put in (say 10k man-hour), very likely each man-hour Singapore was charging us RM 30,000. Does Singaporean command so high salary that every hour worth rm 30,000?

My suggestion is, if really need service of HSR, let starts from Butterworth, and ends in Nusajaya,JB.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-12-08 13:13 | Report Abuse

AFTER THAT CAN FURTHER EXTEND TO PENANG & BANGKOK MAH!

THIS IS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE 130 MILLION POPULATIONS THROUGH HSR MAH!

THAT MEANS ABOUT 1000KM RAIL ARE PUT TO GOOD USE INSTEAD OF JUST ABOUT 250 KM LOH...!!

True loh...why do not want to extend to spore leh ??

Spore got more lucrative customers and also bigger volume of customers mah!

If Hsr only ends at Johor it negates two things

I) Where got economy of scale without affluent passengers from Spore? Many Hsr in China are operating below cost. Without Spore the Hsr will incur losses from day one and might turn out to be a white elephant

Ii) Hsr connecting Spore to Kl will bring in the World's tourist as Spore is an Air Hub to the world

From Spore arriving Air passengers can take Hsr straight to Kl
This will boost tourism and the economy of Kl

Plus Johor, Batu Pahat, Melaka and Putra Jaya will benefit

It is known that lands near Japan Shinkansen Hsr rises 46% in value when high speed train is built

The economic benefits outweight the cost.

U NEED TO THINK STRATEGICALLY LOH...!!

SPORE IS WILLING TO SHARE THE OPERATIONS OF HSR 50:50 BASIS, BUT IT WANT TO ENSURE THE HSR IS RUN VERY EFFICIENTLY SO THAT HSR NOT ONLY NOT TO LOSE MONIES BUT CAN MAKE MONIES MAH (UNLIKE MOST OF THE MSIA PUBLIC TRANSPORT LOSS ALOT OF MONIES MAH!].
MSIA GOVT SHOULD JUMP INTO THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY WORKING & LEARNING WITH THIS HIGHLY EFFICIENT SPORE PARTNER MAH!

chinaman

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Posted by chinaman > 2021-12-08 14:02 | Report Abuse

gomen still got $$$ for HSR?? print myr like USD, then become toilet paper?? wakaka

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