russ, who can tell actually? if anyone can predict accurately, no need work already as far as i am concern. Just sit there wait strike jackpot everytime!
not too sure what Tony Liu and his coded definition means, but your own research must come in!
at current climate, anyone says UP is right, anyone says DOWN is also right!
"Anything can happen in stock markets and you ought to conduct your affairs so that if the most extraordinary events happen, that you’re still around to play the next day." - Warren Buffett
Look kc...I can also tell you what is going to go up. If he is so sure there is something behind this, what so difficult to predict? He is not approaching this as an investor but as someone who apparently know something lah. If he cannot tell, this is a typical scam like what batman is whackinglor. A pundit or gambler. Like batman say he is trying his luck on something which we already know is going up but everyone want only to know when. So if it goes up 6 mths fr now can he still say I told you so.
And he tl did not force just say trust me. I am sure no one can force but give ah decent info. Would you trust your daughter w a drug addict? Only if you did not know he is one right or not? Kc....u know Tony Liu kah?
Russ, I am with you on the Batman and your questioning about the method tony Liu used. But you are asking for when it will rise right? Can anyone predict for certainty? That's what I am driving to.
My only avenue to trust is always do own research.
I try not to take things too personal. Hope you reciprocate!
Had Russ care to read earlier posts, tony asked me to keep quiet as well. So I know he can just continue with whatever method he wants or thinks best. In other words, he can shook sensitive la!
Point being, why get upset with him? Let him be la. Whatever he earns or not, it doesn't affect all of us. He seems to be able to convince others and with some margin of success, then we wish them all the best la. We should then look for our own methodology that works best for us!
It was getting personal (and believe me, I just went into one tiff with another guy yesterday as witnessed in Alan marine thread), finally convinced its just pure waste of time when the attacks get nonsensical. Question if we must, but move on if answers not forthcoming.
Sorry that I do to follow the stories. I do know that we could always let go of others opinions and stick to our own views, if we do not agree.
Just spend our time sharing and learning. Always remember that there are 90% losing in markets. So, do expect more noises in public forums. I3 platform is one of the best around but not the forums anymore.
When do we buy hugely? When the whole forum is quiet. It is noisy, showing it is bullish. Contrarians will win anytime.
If one never do their own homework and depends on other tips, no matter how quiet or how hot is this forum, the chances of winning are still very slim.
oh batman hero, i was wondering why were u so bothered about tl calling. if u feel doesn't like the way he comments just ignore what he says. what so difficult. everyone have their own way of expression n methods of playing is up to every individual. if he feels, that is his way. so be it. in life, not everything must be in detailed and accordingly. importantly, show some courtesy to one another. as the proverbs goes "no matter what colours a cat is - as long as it cathes mouse, he's a good cat". all the best.
Now I understand why Bro. Chong move out of this forum ! Be Cool guys! Lets give and take as we all have a common goal....that is trying to make money!
bat, I wasnt referring to you. Yes thanks for your advice. I am only a week old here.
Has been in bursa for more than 3 decades. Seen a felt all kinds of tricks for eg one forummer expected a double digit jump after annoncement of demerger. But I know it will not happen cos its a discounted news.
For e n o i believe there is more than meets the eyes.
Any way i only here for 6 months, too bz for daily long term reading. No time
I think partly it is our own responsibility as the reader of this forum to be aware with the Law Of Malaysia - Act 280. By knowing what are legals & what are not legals, it can prevent ourselves to be manipulated by certain parties & prevent ourselves to post something which are considered illegals.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL MY FORUM FRIENDS & MY SUCCESS PARTNER. THANKS AGAIN E&O BERHAD & BURSA SAHAM. SUCCESS TOGETHER Tony Liu, Jacci Yap, Royston,Raphael & etc. TAHNIAH DATO & DATIN.
Yah no doubt someone happy like tony but just wanna say e n o is not for ppl thinking invest is better save in bank it is for ppl like gamble. Just my view for past few month and notice much more better choice in the sea. Like digi mphb etc.
Adrian, If you are referring to Tonylim last posting, yes I perfectly aware of the risk involved. The problem is I am neither a FA or TA.
Just want to ride on the impending bull. For those those invest on value, know when to take profit is important too unless like a few forummers here say "I will be and keep for ten years"
BTW the way, I do have many of such counters like BAT, umw, shang. a number of others were bought during the US sub prime crisis kpj, cbip for eg. Many like ijm, ijmland already cleared 3rd qtr last year.
KPJ and cbip etc was bought because of the industry they are in. ijm(s) were bought to get bonus and warrants issues. so is kpj, 8 lots get a profit of RM33,000 on first day listing.
Now,... for kpj ijm and ijmland, you wouldnt buy early because if you look at the FA at that time it doesnt warrant the price that you buy.
Another example ... Today, I read that Kfima (see thread) is recording the highest profits todate and hopeful that it will hit RM3-00 soon. Now it has been ageing it has never hit this price (I think highest is RM2-80 and the talk of merger with fimacorp, I have heard many years probably a decade ago. I dont like this kind of stocks. Yes in the right industry at the right time subject to vagaries of cpo prices as compared to cbip its technology and knowledge in doing palm oil infra and research. I heard they are very advanced in their research.
The bottom line is, yes it is safer to invest in value but not in a bull run, where market is toppish its better to have cash than stocks no matter what value it gives you.
Bat, I dont comment on other peoples way of handling their money or their investments.
I subscribe to a life time advice from my coach that "Dont not give unsolicited advice unless you are asked to"
I will only comment if some newbies ask questions like how dividends is calculated and the meaning of ex- or cum dates. I feel that I should do a posting so that they learn faster to understand the basics than learn what to buy or sell.
In another forum, I see many newbies and there are some here.
Your example of crimes feeling pains , commented from inside or outside ... I read you. I have gone through 4 bulls and busts.
I can see pains and joys when one make it or loses money. But isnt that the game in Bursa. Tell me I am wrong.
The US subprime market crash was a chance of my life time to buy US stocks. I bought quite a bit on citicorp in 2009. This is a joy, the sad part was buying google and not buying apple,
I meant the whole bursa has a likely chance of a bull run. Look at the threads here, every body is happy and making money. No?
In a bull there will be a rotation play fuelled by themes, corporate re structuring, M n A, etc. Then this will be followed by rumours and then penny stocks will have its own field days.
I see penny stocks has done a couple of runs already. High yield and low volume stocks is still running. Look at the top ten daily.
Looks like Tony Liu is rogue. After reading some of the comments, I agree that an experience trader would not have called for a Buy on the last trading day before a holiday.
Despite the Malaysian Insider manipulation and fiasco for those who had jumped in to buy E&O and its warrants (especially the dead duck CA which expires at the end of this month), I think there is some potential for speculators.
For one thing, business-wise it is not pricey and one investment bank's TP for it is at 1.90 or so. There is the possibility the minority shareholder who had brought the MGO matter to court might actually win (when is the hearing, by the way?). So, should this happen, E&O will definitely go up significantly.
Secondly, one also can't totally discount the possibility that Sime might make a GO for the remaining shares. After 6 months, it need not offer the same price of 2.30. Despite being lower, this would still result in the counter going up... provided it isn't lower than the prevailing price, of course. "But why would Sime want to do that??", you might ask. I don't know; am just speculating:-P
Anyway, I don't see myself buying it anytime soon. After all, there are better counters to put my money in. But I'm keeping an eye on it in the off chance that I could make a few ringgit should there be some interesting development.
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