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1,947 comment(s). Last comment by curiousq 1 month ago

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-23 08:02 | Report Abuse

Yup, I fully agree with you kmohan. Thanks for the sharing... Vin Chuah sold out early so he's afraid the share may fly too high without him in the picture, right Vin Chuah ;)

So guys, put on your seatbelts and grab some popcorns for the movie to start

Posted by Michael Chen > 2016-03-23 09:22 | Report Abuse

I don't think it will announce a bonus issue because the current share price par value is at rm0.10...further issue will dilute its eps..I do agree it's growing and the management has been very focused..so, maybe a higher dividends? :)

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-23 09:28 | Report Abuse

Hi Mike, just to let you know, if you study accounting, technically speaking, bonus issue will not make the par value go down. So no worries my friend.

But anyhow, higher dividends will definitely benefit all shareholders ;)

Posted by Michael Chen > 2016-03-23 09:45 | Report Abuse

Hi James, I'm newbie here but thanks for your insights...at least I learn something new today :)

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-23 09:46 | Report Abuse

JamesBond0007,thanks for sharing,i has been keep this stocks over 3 years+ but have been sold at 1.04, i do buy back but now the price really too high for me to re enter for keep long term as no dividend compare with last times

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-23 10:01 | Report Abuse

I understand Vin Chuah. Investing is a personal thing. We buy and sell based on personal sense of feeling and comfort level. No offense though..

guisi88

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Posted by guisi88 > 2016-03-23 10:01 | Report Abuse

JamesBond007, may i know your predict the higher price for this week?

Ayoyo

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Posted by Ayoyo > 2016-03-23 10:18 | Report Abuse

In Fred Tam's recommendation trade today. Bullish kicker signal. I bought it last week at 101. Added more 3 days ago at 102/103. Due today, will just pick up the shares

Vin Chuah

843 posts

Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-23 10:28 | Report Abuse

when Fred Tam started buy call,parts of ppl standby to sell cox as what you said Ayoyo,u bought last weeks, :)

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-23 10:29 | Report Abuse

Honestly, this is a very hard question for me to answer. Let's look at what we have so far.

Last week ended with a big stop to the mini down trend with the kicking pattern, which theoretical should kick the price upwards aka Bruce Lee style kick. This was confirmed with the upwards Bullish Marubuzu, which is extremely bullish.

Last week's price already broke the near term resistance, and to add to that, yesterday's closing confirmed the Kicking Pattern even further by breaking 5 Years' record high. This has set the tone for the bulls to charge with full power!!!

Price will be up to the market forces, especially when bulls are charging at this rate
(I hope this answers your question)

Ayoyo

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Posted by Ayoyo > 2016-03-23 10:37 | Report Abuse

Vin chuah, depends whether the trader is scalping for a few cents or momentum trading. I'm the latter and always guided by price and volume. Got in because of the bullish signals, and added more due to the continued bullish signals. As it is, no sign of any temporary capitulation top. Will hold

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-23 10:48 | Report Abuse

noted :) tyvm

Insane33

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Posted by Insane33 > 2016-03-23 21:14 | Report Abuse

suitable for mid term investment.rm 1.60

kmohan62

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Posted by kmohan62 > 2016-03-24 07:50 | Report Abuse

I believe this counter is not the typical variety of pump and dump type highly sort by the scalpers and day traders..this is A typical mid to long term investment grade stock which beyond a reasonable doubt bears the attributes of positive long term growth prospects highly sort by institutional investors sooner or later..

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-24 10:48 | Report Abuse

This is definitely a keeper

Insane33

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Posted by Insane33 > 2016-03-24 14:36 | Report Abuse

This is very good fa stock.buy before it's late.

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-25 17:39 | Report Abuse

NTPM just announced their latest quarterly results. Profits up 33% vs last year's. Also dividends for distribution.

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-25 17:43 | Report Abuse

So, good news to the shareholders waiting for the dividend and also increased profits

john yee

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Posted by john yee > 2016-03-25 22:48 | Report Abuse

Next week it will continue bullish

kmohan62

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Posted by kmohan62 > 2016-03-26 13:35 | Report Abuse

Expect better results going forward...definitely a counter to keep for mid to long term..will come under the radar of institutional investors soon if it is already not under scrutiny..

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-27 23:02 | Report Abuse

dividend no more 14.5% :(

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 08:44 | Report Abuse

Twin Turbo V12 starting up..

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 09:33 | Report Abuse

So, as a comparative analysis, if a company such as Muda Paper(Rolling 4Q EPS = 8.6) can be valued at RM 2.15 and a growing company such as NTPM (Rolling 4Q EPS = 5.41) only be valued at RM 1 or less

1) The analyst doesn't know how to do comparative analysis and didn't do his homework properly before publishing
2) NTPM is deeply undervalued by the market
3) Muda Paper is highly overvalued by the market

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 09:43 | Report Abuse

A VERY BIG question mark on the quality of the analysis by the analyst if analysis is done this way

Posted by Michael Chen > 2016-03-28 10:03 | Report Abuse

Well, if u calculate its CAGR it is only 10% based on its revenue and using DCF Model with discount factor of 4% (current FD rate) and the trailing 12 months EPS of rm0.05..u will get a value which is at rm0.69/share...

I think we can't compare with muda paper in terms of its price because of their share capital par value. I notice quite a number of companies with share capital par value of rm1.00/0.50 tend to have higher share price. Example, BAT, Nestle, Latitude Tree, etc. But in terms of quality, I would say NTPM really is better than Muda Paper.

NTPM is growing but not fast enough due to intense competition that eats up their margin even though they have a 55% market share.

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-28 10:21 | Report Abuse

NTPM all the times slow and steady,should go down bit for long term investor have good price to collect back and keep

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 10:23 | Report Abuse

Valuation is always based on EPS, not par value. If we were to change NTPM's par value to RM 1, EPS will also rise to RM 0.541. It's proportional. So par value has nothing to do with valuation of a company.

By the way, are you the analyst from Public Investment Bank?

Posted by Michael Chen > 2016-03-28 10:28 | Report Abuse

Well, the reason I use revenue is because if u use their eps, the CAGR is way below than 10% which makes the valuation much more lower than rm0.69/share.. Nope, I'm just an auditor who is interested in stock investing :)

It does makes a difference if u are using EPS in the DCF model.

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 10:40 | Report Abuse

Well, nice to know you Mike..

Posted by Michael Chen > 2016-03-28 10:54 | Report Abuse

Nice to know you too James! :)

kmohan62

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Posted by kmohan62 > 2016-03-28 12:42 | Report Abuse

Investors...I mean investors,should just collect and ignore the short term chattering.. You will laugh all the way to the bank in a year's time..
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Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 12:50 | Report Abuse

Yup, now is a good time

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-28 14:41 | Report Abuse

price dy fly b4 QR out,emm...time to do some adjustment

Vin Chuah

843 posts

Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-28 14:45 | Report Abuse

revised TP to RM0.88,

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-28 15:00 | Report Abuse

Don't regret selling.. Someone out there is waiting to buy cheap.. Hahaha

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-29 11:22 | Report Abuse

technical indicators are looking bearish now

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-29 11:29 | Report Abuse

You have already sold yours at RM 1.04, so you can consider buying now

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-29 16:12 | Report Abuse

Vin Chuah, you must have bought a lot of NTPM today from the panicking sellers?

Posted by smartInvestor1 > 2016-03-29 23:16 | Report Abuse

Tmr will keep dropping.. why so rush to buy in? hehehe Everyone is going for gkent, kimlun lo

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-30 15:11 | Report Abuse

Very good strategy.

Let everyone sell, then buy cheap cheap to make more profit ;)

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-30 15:30 | Report Abuse

Cheap sale! Lelong! Please sell cheap cheap!

Someone wants to buy!

FX Lee

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Posted by FX Lee > 2016-03-30 15:33 | Report Abuse

Can buy below rm1?

FX Lee

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Posted by FX Lee > 2016-03-30 15:35 | Report Abuse

The Board of Directors of the Company is pleased to announce that a First Interim Single Tier Dividend of 8% in respect of the financial year ending 30 April 2016 has been declared by the Company, which shall be paid on 22 April 2016 to the depositors registered in the Record of Depositors at the close of business on 15 April 2016.

This announcement is dated 25 March 2016.

FX Lee

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Posted by FX Lee > 2016-03-30 15:35 | Report Abuse

Notice of Shares Buy Back - Immediate Announcement

NTPM HOLDINGS BERHAD

Date of buy back 29 Mar 2016
Description of shares purchased Ordinary Share of RM0.10 each
Currency Malaysian Ringgit (MYR)
Total number of shares purchased (units) 10,000
Minimum price paid for each share purchased ($$) 0.985
Maximum price paid for each share purchased ($$) 0.985
Total consideration paid ($$) 9,850.00
Number of shares purchased retained in treasury (units) 10,000
Number of shares purchased which are proposed to be cancelled (units)
Cumulative net outstanding treasury shares as at to-date (units) 60,000
Adjusted issued capital after cancellation
(no. of shares) (units)
Total number of shares purchased and/or held as treasury shares against total number of issued shares of the listed issuer (%) 0.0053

Posted by JamesBond0007 > 2016-03-30 17:09 | Report Abuse

To an untrained eye, a polished glass may look like a diamond. And may sell his diamond to the goldsmith(Expert) who claims that the diamond is worth the price of a polished glass.

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-03-31 10:19 | Report Abuse

JamesBond0007 ..i key bit lower price cox NTPM i keep for long term

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-04-05 16:26 | Report Abuse

980 985 think can keep for dividend

FX Lee

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Posted by FX Lee > 2016-04-05 17:03 | Report Abuse

i bought 98.5c and 99c

Vin Chuah

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Posted by Vin Chuah > 2016-04-05 22:48 | Report Abuse

target price of MYR1.08, followed by MYR1.19

HEROLAI

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Posted by HEROLAI > 2016-04-06 11:32 | Report Abuse

good time to buy!!!

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