Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-06 21:11 | Report Abuse

Not necessary ........they build base on number of resident and traffic .......Paloma ( which is phase 2) ready in 4 years ie 2017 which mean only probably phase 1 pandora is ready before Paloma.....they are building the direct access in 2016.....which will serve more of the community more than Metropark......

Normally per exit access should have 5000 residence.......and the 5000 residence in this case are Subang height, USJ height etc.....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-06 21:22 | Report Abuse

Mid valley example is a good one.......it's an island......island in in sense the traffic goes round the building and malls on it.
Wherease Metropark has multiple access thru Subang, federal, glenmarie ......

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-06 21:34 | Report Abuse

I think the boss of tropicana should do more homework......i think when I was there in the afternoon, the sales vs buyer was like more than 10 to 1. Most were sitting pretty. Not a bad thing if my wife was not there.....Kakakaka

Even the caddy driver tell me the crowd will come in the later evening for the show and promotion.....aiya caddy driver can tell me that and the boss is spending like sap sap water.....no wonder the numbers at nett is still badly affected after degearing fr 0.87 to 0.7.....not unless the ratio of degearing is different.....pls not de gearing can be a ratio of different measurement.

Similar to PE, alternative is to use price over cash flow to determine ......so I hope he use the same ratio or I will be very suspicious.......WARNING!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-06 21:44 | Report Abuse

I must be reading this wrong.....the announcement is coming fr Dickson the MD, the land deals and transaction is coming fr Danny.....what is the role of CEO????. Confused!!!! Meet KPI ???

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-06 23:05 | Report Abuse

They are coming back.....

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/mobile/article.php?id=266546

Posted by MAMEE MONSTER > 2013-12-09 17:49 | Report Abuse

YES. MARMIAK!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 13:46 | Report Abuse

Cumming or coming?........finally the Yau kor keep mum on tower REIT......if not sure ask danny or me ok!!!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 14:13 | Report Abuse

Let me teach the boss.......lesson 1. Very very important to ascertain a deal at least 99% before announcing
2. Don't make premature announcement of intention until date is closer
3. Always b consistent w measurement and keep your honor in deals
4. Though changes may happen of an impending deal, but if changes always happen in all deals, you are the problem....not the deal
5.
6
......more lesson but will not share yet

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 14:17 | Report Abuse

I like this statement by HL study

Tapering means higher growth certainty, more gradual liquidity (still ample) increase and investors more selective.

Posted by pfl1119 > 2013-12-10 14:44 | Report Abuse

Who still believe in this stock? Hv been down trend since june....for half-year going down bit by bit.

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 14:47 | Report Abuse

Property counters dont touch! Next year proprty bubble burst! Moody already downgrade 4 banks because of overload property loans! Even now many housing loans hard to approve!

Posted by nightshade > 2013-12-10 14:50 | Report Abuse

housing loans hard to approve because the buyers already leverage to the max.....if the buyers income/salary still can serve the loan amount they want to take, why not?

Posted by love2trade > 2013-12-10 14:53 | Report Abuse

skip property counter in 2014 first?

Posted by nightshade > 2013-12-10 14:57 | Report Abuse

I'll be more selective on property counter next year.....

had you read the draft of GST Guide to Construction Industry by Royal Custom Malaysia last November 2013....you might want to redeem your FD from to bank & start searching for your next property....

the content = K.O......but still got hope coz it is still DRAFT....hope the RCM will call for dialogue with the industry players before finalizing the guide...

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 15:21 | Report Abuse

As bulk of QE were used in emerging capital market especially properties, we need to wait and see once QE ease in Mac next year! No worry for bourses as most capital already pulled out from emerging markets! Property will be heavily hit come Mac next year! Theres reason for Moody downgrade!

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 15:30 | Report Abuse

By end of next year you will get cheap properties from action houses! Your good lawyer friends keep calling you on piles of burn speculators properties sitting on their desk! The domino effect on developers postponing their launches!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 18:52 | Report Abuse

Ok ok.....if loan hard to come by, less ppl can afford house, and material cannot be hedge, material price increase.....where will the house price go? If you say south then the developer should close shop because they already hedge on the Landbank.....
Give you a good example............IJMland bought Canal city land at less than rm10 psf and tropicana bought at rm25psf but both will and are producing houses at rm600+k. So if you are expecting same quality with % lesser margin possible between Trops and IJM due to land cost at purchase, it's possible but if you are expecting a larger piece of lesser margin! think again. The OPEX cost is too high unless developer can comedown to construction margin difference top vs bottomline

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 19:16 | Report Abuse

Remember...in the land of the blind the one eye is king!

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 19:31 | Report Abuse

Property bubble had burst few times here! Just like stock market! I have neighbour selling house with luxury car due to excessive speculation! Many gone bankrupt too! How much can you get from half million condo with potential of only one thousand a month! Calculate with interest rate, rpgt, service fee, assesment, quit rent etc all in all over a million! Those days of easy money already gone, only two weeks of honeymoon left!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 19:55 | Report Abuse

Oops forgot ....only Fortuneballs stays in a house or condo......those with graduating children, married, divorce couple, LGBT, ......all should never buy new home

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 20:04 | Report Abuse

Those new in property should also know that interest use to be blr + today it's blr -....... Blr 10 years ago was 6.8...if anyone says RPGT is a stopper doesn't understand how secondary market function....
Here's the 101
Secondary market player does a Ali baba and makes 100k in key areas within half year......who is paying for the additional 100k.? Now without Alibaba, who buys the property? Good areas you cannot even get a decent corner lot unless you are lucky ......even luckier if you are slightly richer and take facing south at 10 to 20k dearer......so if mr alibaba does not exist anymore, u r buying a property 100k cheaper......so think again.......since you are the real buyer and not alibaba, you wouldn't sell it anyway.....so demand will have a shortage ....and demand shortage will create...???......u know the answer......lol

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 20:24 | Report Abuse

Remember you going to spend 100 thousand to furnish house! On top of your half million property! Dont forget your hundred thousands cars! And what happen if recession hit and you lose your job! This what happen to many out there! Just ask those in auction property. You hear so many sad stories!

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 20:26 | Report Abuse

Midway on your 2 years old property, you lose job! Then 30% rpgt burn you! Declare bankrupt! And seeing your property auction cheap!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 20:30 | Report Abuse

Aiyo...this fella reminds me of. Hafiz......he says construction and developer , are the same.....then argues on cement price on a house price alredi factored in......now a new Soh hai has emerge......new Soh hai talks about furnishing house and loosing job in recession.....will someone tell him global recession just over....it will start again soon and again and again......so nobody should buy property or buy car or buy clothes or buy......just stay at home ans wait for the end is what he is telling you......

Why don't stop buying car because it depreciates......or stop buying so many clothes because all clothes are the same as long as you wear one

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 20:34 | Report Abuse

And then Soh hai will tell you donate to him and he will pray for global world peace and pray to avoid recession and then ......

What' a joker.....then why even bother playing stock market.....??? Opr will be raise soon as GDP is improving and global indicator are more positive......tapering coming....and Soh hai has comments about losing job....and recession.."..

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 20:37 | Report Abuse

Mate, it's a daily affair now........unemployment, tapering, manufacturing index, GDP, etc....r u afraid of everything....stay at home...don't come out.....lock ur doors.....

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 21:00 | Report Abuse

Moody downgrade of 4 banks is early protection for foreign bond buyers!Banks cannot simply issue loans! They ned to sell their client loans to insurers, and bond holders recapitalize these banks! And bare in mind the glut of properties. Just dont think about Tropicana alone, other heavy weights have chuck out so many properties! Just go out and look at current constructions, some only skeletons workers working, a sign of danger ahead!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:11 | Report Abuse

Who are the heavyweigh who have chuck threi property??

Popiah king from Singapore buying here.......another couple billion into Iskandar next year, Singapore reits are shopping for property, cross selling lands amongst developer, JV with Singapore increasing....

Glut of property, bubble burst, property price drop, oversupply of condos,.....all this are now cliche........more than 10 years ago alreadi ppl are talking.....did price come down???

Single story in TTDI/bandar Utama 15 years ago at 300k is now 1.x Million......how to drop.....show me a drop and a quantum at a point in time and I will agree with you.....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:12 | Report Abuse

So loan is difficult....so ??? Only real buyers right? Why do you think mid end developers like Sime do not build mid price houses for avg families anymore like those in USJ??.....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:13 | Report Abuse

Pls answer who are the heavyweight first.......I have given example of each that I speak off.....

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 21:14 | Report Abuse

Wait next year as property bubble burst again!

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:27 | Report Abuse

Whoa re the heavyweight who threw their property......? Can't back up?? You must be Hafiz or ala hafiz......

Fitch downgraded Malaysia.....why is our KLCI all time high???

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:28 | Report Abuse

Telling me moody is like telling me u know how to read......but guess what.......I can read too.....lol

Posted by Fortunebull > 2013-12-10 21:35 | Report Abuse

Who is Hafiz and what nonsense are you talking about! I am talking about property bubble! I see your posting here almost everday! And this counter has down almost 50%! Only few days up 10%! Thats it! No nonsense talk! Enjoy talking nonsense to yourself! No one is reading your post here by the way!

Posted by Icon8888 > 2013-12-10 21:39 | Report Abuse

Bought more tropicana warrants at 52 sen today. I m long term

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:53 | Report Abuse

Yes property bubble.....who are the heavyweight you r referring to??? Sweeping statement....?

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:53 | Report Abuse

Icon8888...... Stay cool.......

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:54 | Report Abuse

Where is my heavyweight answer from fortunateballs....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 21:55 | Report Abuse

Talk is cheap.......sweeping statement is cheaper

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-12-10 22:04 | Report Abuse

a lot of telltale signs Saturn! :)

Stock: [INSTACO]: INSTACOM GROUP BERHAD - fortunebull (born 1958)
Nov 12, 2013 03:19 PM | Report Abuse
Ha! I told you can get 30 cents soon!

Stock: [CSL]: CHINA STATIONERY LIMITED - Hafiz (born 1983)
Jul 7, 2013 10:58 PM | Report Abuse
Ha! My frend wahaha126 finally see the light...now become ANTI CHINA stock oledi....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-12-10 22:06 | Report Abuse

Posted by Fortunebull > Dec 10, 2013 09:35 PM | Report Abuse
Who is Hafiz and what nonsense are you talking about! I am talking about property bubble! I see your posting here almost everday! And this counter has down almost 50%! Only few days up 10%! Thats it! No nonsense talk! Enjoy talking nonsense to yourself! No one is reading your post here by the way!
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I see your posting here almost everday!

No one is reading your post here by the way!

how to reconcile? LOL

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:08 | Report Abuse

Kc.....he demonstrated ability to read.....I give him a 2 star out of 5.......2 star rating is given for those who can read but not think for themselves............but STILL better than those who btc and cannot understand.....bravo!!....

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-12-10 22:08 | Report Abuse

LOL

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:11 | Report Abuse

Ok acid test for rating 3 for fortunate ll.....opppps I drop the b......what if the 3 big rating agencies each give different opinion???how then my fortunateball???

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-12-10 22:14 | Report Abuse

in his kampung, he's probably the best english reader. They may be impressed, even to the part of conning his wife freely, but here he's just trying to match with city folks! goner! LOL

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:15 | Report Abuse

Ok ok....I give answer........

If three all give differing opinion, you change name to crystalballl.......hahahahaha....

Because then you can use ur balls correctly to predict future......clairvoyant.....Nostradamus ,.....u know lol

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:16 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha....KC......that's jaguh kampung.......

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:17 | Report Abuse

Why is he so quiet??? ......I am worried when someone read too much of moody or fitch or watch too much CNBC or bloomberg......because then I don't get airtime......lol .....

Posted by Saturn > 2013-12-10 22:20 | Report Abuse

Kc you know the wife too??? Fortunecookie? Lol

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-12-10 22:23 | Report Abuse

[Hafiz Millip] - Is it true we can get cheapest fare by checking in as luggage? My friend told me he only pay RM50 to Australia from KL...the problem is..he end up back to KL coz he slept during the back and fro flights...

http://fposts.com/fbpost/18801397386_10151751712577387

i guess nobody checked on his friend when all disembarked the plane! hahaha

really hope its not our pal cangkulman here! LOL