Posted by tonylim > 2014-02-25 12:13 | Report Abuse

Cbc put money take money

Posted by nicky > 2014-02-25 12:19 | Report Abuse

Damn coming down...RM1.36

Posted by optimus8 > 2014-02-25 12:33 | Report Abuse

Posted by optimus8 > Feb 24, 2014 05:20 PM | Report Abuse X

gua tenkgok itu chart. besok lu korang mesti lali. shark mao tankgak korang... lu tenkgok la...

Posted by Melaos > 2014-02-25 13:18 | Report Abuse

Mm what's wrong with this stock?

Got some bad news coming up Kah?

Posted by Up_down > 2014-02-25 13:21 | Report Abuse

Nothing wrong in this stock. It could be something wrong with our valuation.

Posted by Melaos > 2014-02-25 13:38 | Report Abuse

I check the cash flow statement and can see that they're low on operating cash (bug negative) and high on financing number? Is this an issue or common for property stocks?

Posted by Foresight123 > 2014-02-25 14:05 | Report Abuse

Correction

Posted by Saturn888 > 2014-02-25 14:46 | Report Abuse

Yes got something wrong.......

Posted by Saturn888 > 2014-02-25 16:43 | Report Abuse

Ok ok..back to property ......read this fine news.....tell me what you think.....
40,000 in 3 years ISKANDAR.....VS 20,000 units in 20 years in mont kiara.....
Fact..... 4 seasons hotel area at 3500psf.....5000psf is not impossible...........

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/02/25/Oversupply-a-shortterm-situation/

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-25 17:56 | Report Abuse

this forum a lot of brainless people accept saturn . saturn consider real honesty person can trust , talk true about the real things .warn !

Posted by Saturn888 > 2014-02-25 19:19 | Report Abuse

Hahahaha

Posted by Zehwan101 > 2014-02-25 20:02 | Report Abuse

Saturn real real talk! What angry all about! Understood for not! Hahahahaha, only those think but not talk! What a deal!

Posted by Saturn888 > 2014-02-25 20:03 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Stockmaster69 > 2014-02-25 20:14 | Report Abuse

Laughter is a good medicine but to talk3 talk 4 leads ones astray.

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 20:50 | Report Abuse

I'm still holding, plan to average down if hit RM1.20~

Posted by Saturn888 > 2014-02-25 20:54 | Report Abuse

March is a very important mth. Failure to announce the very important and expected planned action which caused the shares to tumble in the first place will definitely create more doubt on the CEO......

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 20:59 | Report Abuse

Tropicana, revenue, eps, pe ratio & nta all is much better than those huayang, pj developer & many more.
High chance it will rise, just the matter of time~
Perhaps investor need another quarter result in May to reaffirm?

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 21:03 | Report Abuse

Result is not the issue

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 21:05 | Report Abuse

Then, announce about what so important?
Projects?

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 21:06 | Report Abuse

Read my previous comments......w

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 21:09 | Report Abuse

I suggest u cut and paste and do a search.....I wrote to much to rewrite again

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 21:43 | Report Abuse

I dunno which 1 u refer to.
Pls cut & paste.
Thanks~

Posted by ping > 2014-02-25 22:11 | Report Abuse

private placement

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 22:24 | Report Abuse

Tq Ping....someone was paying attention......they have to announce the gearing also officially......remember the KPI ends at 2013 but initiative for gearing is ongoing till mid 2014.

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 22:29 | Report Abuse

I saw bursa announcement that many unsecured loan had covered into ordinary shares, meaning debt reduced.
Private placement so influencing?

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 22:30 | Report Abuse

As long as gearing is high, the potential realise earning will not be accurate.....my count is at 25% profit but the potential here is higher. A lot of their land have been hedge......

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-25 22:31 | Report Abuse

That has nothing to do with PP........

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-25 22:35 | Report Abuse

Saturn101, so what ur future value for Trop?
I think it worth more a lot than current price~

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-26 00:29 | Report Abuse

At least rm2.....cannot b definitive because the value is already there but premature action & announcement and no focus on the share price in the KPI prevented that from happening.....we know each event.....very very well......as I said this is a premium share in property sector simply because they r growing into a SP Setia. Only diff is SP Setia was never a family business. So here there is continuity......
Premium in land exchanges, hedging and back end JV deals.....
I also said, I will sell this share when the price is right if they don't buck up on it performance.....performance here has to do with allowing the price to drop by large margin and no effort to bring it up .....it spent half of last year in a downward trend when it could have been avoided.....
Investors know where the fault is......owner must act
Don't make the premium name tropicana which is so much associated to tropicana golf & country club an impression of dwindling share and weakness in management.

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-26 10:48 | Report Abuse

As I told you, price of property won't come down even with lower buy rate....

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/02/26/Property-deals-drop-But-value-of-transactions-continues-to-rise/

Posted by nicky > 2014-02-26 11:20 | Report Abuse

Trop become Drop

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-26 11:30 | Report Abuse

This what happens when u get the wrong CEO for the job....

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-26 11:52 | Report Abuse

Take this analogy.......I say I am a nice guy....but majority don't agree....
This is the same for Trops......they say they achieve 2b unbilled 2b also......and 112% 134% 313% etc....all numbers but the market don't agree......

Easy isn't it to understand.......but Trops needs to action...get rid of those cannot fit into your company

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-26 12:41 | Report Abuse

Saturn really top public speaker ! Give him support ! Only trop desperatedly change their internal management only can survive in today property business market . Otherwise die body only !

Posted by chooheng > 2014-02-26 13:47 | Report Abuse

such low PE. CEO must be very easy satisfied person and family man.

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-26 15:11 | Report Abuse

Within a week go back the existing price such 1.20 for sure ! History repeat !

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-26 15:24 | Report Abuse

This specially for. Tropicana Management.......in case u have ran out of ideas
One of the reason SP Setia was so vibrant when Liew was there ....has to do with his immaculate charisma when delivering a target and followed by timely announcement. Funny ppl in the industry call him a miracle worker......I don't know what really that means but it was felt when he speaks and when he delivered the final objective ie the Revenue and the projects......this very well could have been a well enforce and planned execution but nevertheless immaculate.

When I look at tropicana, I see a glimpse of that when it was still Dijaya.......slowly but sure that magic feeling is dwindling and spiraling away from the once sparkling gem. As I mentioned, achieving 2 b fr 630k is indeed a spectacular achievement but we all know in business, the mutual trust must be in effect and continuous improvement in the numbers are key. Here we see the head and the hands of tropicana is not coordinating well. I really hate to see, the year end results falling below 2013 and compounded by the high gearing not delivered timely in announcement couple with fumbling from the CEO.......hope my message as an investor is meaningful compared to Ali, ah Kau who attend ur EGM for food and lesser qualified questions.....

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-26 15:42 | Report Abuse

Terrible and horrible in their public imej such like dwindling stock and weakness , not reliable stock and empty promised management .

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-26 15:44 | Report Abuse

Twinge stock infect ! Avoid it .

Posted by Icon8888 > 2014-02-26 22:20 | Report Abuse

Looked like going back to 120

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-26 22:37 | Report Abuse

I'm still holding~

Posted by optimus8 > 2014-02-26 22:43 | Report Abuse

icon. told ady nobody believe.

Posted by optimus8 > Feb 24, 2014 05:20 PM | Report Abuse X

gua tenkgok itu chart. besok lu korang mesti lali. shark mao tankgak korang... lu tenkgok la...

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-27 00:21 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-27 09:25 | Report Abuse

Pls continue to sleep........

Posted by Chua Boon Chin > 2014-02-27 10:09 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by nicky > 2014-02-27 11:19 | Report Abuse

RM1.34.... finish soon

Posted by ray81 > 2014-02-27 13:19 | Report Abuse

http://ir.chartnexus.com/tropicana/docs/TCB%20FY13%20Corporate%20Presentation.pdf

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-27 13:28 | Report Abuse

Yes we all know these info....tq.......

Their announcement is still POOR.......announce lah proper on media.....instead they announce deadwood info like PP2 in June and dead deals like trop mall .......

Posted by Saturn101 > 2014-02-27 13:36 | Report Abuse

If business is about reputation and reputation is about quality and quality is about past performance.......and past performance = past project, past financial, past share performance....

Looks like Trops only achieve 66% performance. No need for beautiful charts as they are not translated to share price

Posted by 林俊松 > 2014-02-27 16:23 | Report Abuse

When Trop is going to shoot up ya?