@kcloh "you must therefore add appropriate discount to a largely "inactive" price movement! " ~ what is the % you discounted for this element ? any reason or guide for that ?
This stock's profit margin dropped below 10% after labour cost increased to minimum RM900 mthly effective 1st January 2013. Moreover, electricity is 5% of operational cost as said by Ta Investment Analyst. If there is an increase on electricity (sure naik one as you can see, Tenaga's stock is well supported even with bad quarterly EPS), profit margin may get more squeezed. Anyhow, a good dividend stock for conservative stock player.
Kahfiehlai! Almost all counters I recommend gone up but I keep quiet! What's the point! I have yet to recommend limit up counters this year! This is very disappointing year actually!
The return of Kfima, my biggest investment? See the following table and tell me please!
Kfima 1.98 Period 1 year 2-year 3 year 4 year 5 year Price 2.13 1.70 1.13 0.73 0.46 Return -7.0% 16.5% 75.2% 173.1% 335.2% CAR -7.0% 7.9% 20.6% 28.6% 34.2%
Ha! Arm chair looking for someone to showoff his skill again! I am fed up with this fellow! For his list only Ptaras and Dsonic made impressive returns this year! Yes! You pick 2 very good counters but above RM3! The rest only made few cents movements! Try picking 30 cents counters that can go RM3 next year! Don't just talk, show your true ability!
Posted by Fortunebull > Nov 4, 2013 06:49 PM | Report Abuse Most disappointing counter of the year! Prove that strong fundamental or undervalue play no use if no major funds or shark moving it!
And I only hoping to tap your wisdom of your investment strategy and learn from you.
Posted by Fortunebull > Nov 4, 2013 07:04 PM | Report Abuse What happen to Kfima! You number 1 biggest investment! Ha!
Posted by kcchongnz > Nov 4, 2013 07:08 PM | Report Abuse X
The return of Kfima, my biggest investment? See the following table and tell me please!
Kfima 1.98 Period 1 year 2-year 3 year 4 year 5 year Price 2.13 1.70 1.13 0.73 0.46 Return -7.0% 16.5% 75.2% 173.1% 335.2% CAR -7.0% 7.9% 20.6% 28.6% 34.2%
Fortunebull....no matter how good you are, how matter how strong the fundamental the company have, you just need 20% luck to make a nice profit. Take it easy... I did lose 0.01 sen on SKPRES. Indeed it does have a strong fundamental, I know. Don't worry...there will be another boat of opportunity and the question: will you dare to jump in with another strong fundamental financial ratio it has. You win some, and you lose some ! Of course you must win BIG and lose small !
Christopher! I have yet to buy SKPress as I have made several switching from one counter to another within 3 months period! If I have park my 35 thousand on SKPress for that 3 months period, I would have lost the chance to make so much! I am quite angry with KCChongnz for not wanting to listen to others as he's word is undisputed! There's no point explaining to him at all! For instead KFima has been discussed that its on downtrend, and if you park 19 thousand in KFima, you would have lost the opportunity to make so returns from other uptrending counters! And I am very sure that KCChongnz would only take the chance to showoff his FA ability and completely rubbish TA! I am not here to be smart! I am here to make money!
I am sure SKPress will make a showing of uptrending! Until that time, our capital must continue to look for opportunity returns in other counters! I am sure if you have 35 thousand to choose SKPress and Myeg, you would definitely choose Myeg! Or do you hard headedly choice SKPress waiting for opportunity return to past you by! You choice!
It is ok if someone wants to showoff his FA ability. Try to make your mind to focus something else. Remember you need to believe in yourself when it comes to investing ! Well, I am learning each day until I die I suppose. Everything is possible, trust me. Just FOCUS.... don't get discouraged if anyone pours cold water to you. It is normal in life, but remember you might see things in another different point of view ! Take it easy !
This stock has been trading sideway since March 2012. I believe the coming quarterly EPS will get better because Dyson contributes over 50% sales to Skpres & VS respectively & so, these 2 stocks have close correlation. In fact, when VS sales dropped, I found out that Skpres sales also dropped. So now VS just reported its quarterly EPS with much better sales, you guess yourself, what likely the coming Skpres quarterly EPS?
Stocklearner! Correct! If you have bought SKPress, would you let your 35 thousand stuck for 1 and half year! If you actively switching from one uptrending to another uptrending counters, you would already see you money double! I can definitely say, if you want to make some profit from SKPress, you wait for major correction and buy! At least you can see some profit rather than watching you capital stagnant!
Since my name is specifically mentioned in the post here, I will give my side of the story, can I? I use upper case words here just to differentiate those comments by the gentleman here.
Posted by Fortunebull > Nov 4, 2013 11:19 PM | Report Abuse Christopher! I have yet to buy SKPress as I have made several switching from one counter to another within 3 months period!
GOOD ON YOU FOR HAVE NOT BOUGHT SKPRES AS YOU MADE NO MONEY IF YOU HAVE DONE SO (ALSO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE LOST ANY MONEY IF YOU HAVE DONE SO). GREAT ON YOU SWITCHING FROM ONE COUNTER TO ANOTHER WITHIN THREE MONTH PERIOD. CONGRATS FOR YOUR MAKING HEAPS OF MONEY USING YOUR STRATEGY HERE.
If I have park my 35 thousand on SKPress for that 3 months period, I would have lost the chance to make so much!
SURE SURE SURE.
I am quite angry with KCChongnz for not wanting to listen to others as he's word is undisputed! There's no point explaining to him at all!
WHY GET ANGRY WITH KCCHONGNZ? YOU HAVE YOUR STRONG OPINIONS OF SWITCHING COUNTER TO COUNTER CHASING HOT STOCKS (AND MAKE TONS OF MONEY), HE HAS HIS STRONG OPINION THAT ONE SHOULD FOLLOW FUNDAMENTALS IN INVESTING AND THAT ONE SHOULD INVEST AND NOT SPECULATE. IT IS JUST DIFFERENCE IN OPINIONS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT "THINGS", NOT "PERSONALITY".
NO POINT EXPLAINING TO ME? WHAT EXPLANATIONS HAVE YOU PROVIDED SO FAR?
For instead KFima has been discussed that its on downtrend, and if you park 19 thousand in KFima, you would have lost the opportunity to make so returns from other uptrending counters!
SURE SURE SURE, IF ONE HAS PARKED ALL HIS MONEY IN KFIMA, HE WON'T MAKE HIGH RETURNS FROM OTHER STOCKS (PROVIDED YOU HAVE GAMBLED ON THE RIGHT "UPTRENDING" STOCKS). NO ARGUMENT ABOUT IT. BUT IF ONE HAS BEEN INVESTING IN KFIMA YEARS AGO, HE WOULD HAVE VERY GOOD RETURN AS SHOWN IN MY TABLE ABOVE, WOULDN'T THEY? AGAIN DIFFERENCE IN OPINION HERE; YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TRADING AND I AM TALKING ABOUT INVESTING.
And I am very sure that KCChongnz would only take the chance to showoff his FA ability and completely rubbish TA! I am not here to be smart! I am here to make money!
TAKE CHANCE TO SHOW OFF? REALLY? THINK ABOUT IT THERE WERE INDEED A FEW PEOPLE THINK SO AND CRITICIZED ME, EVEN PERSONAL ATTACK. BUT THERE SEEM TO BE MORE PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE SHARING AND DISCUSSION OF KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION.
AND ALSO IT IS A SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ME TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW OF WHAT INVESTING SHOULD BE; IN MY CASE SHOULD BE BASED ON FUNDAMENTALS RATHER THAN RUMOURS AND TREATING IT AS A GAMBLING ENDEAVOR, AND INSTEAD OF MAKING MONEY, LOSING A FORTUNE. THAT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY DESPITE BEING WHACKED A NUMBER OF TIMES, I REMAIN IN THE FORUMS HERE. THERE ARE MORE BENEFITS IN SHARING HERE.
Serve you right for picking fight with me in this forum! I didnt even bother you at all! All the sudden trying to impress yourself by downgrading me! Why bother with me if all along doing fine making money switching from one stock to another using both FA and TA! Yet, still so upset over it! Furthermore, we dont know how long this uptrending going to last! If tomorrow all sudden market turn bearish, world economy again collapse, you can argue 24 hours because you cant make money! You can apply all the FA or TA in bearish market and see how you can make dedent return! Remember US is still in deep debt likewise, China holding US debts, anything can happen even by tomorrow! What do you do when it collapse! I certainly cut all position and wait for the perfect entry! Or are you dumb enough to stay invested all the time! You choice!
I still remember how fragile this world market can be via 1998 financial crisis! We are indeed living in another potential explosive financial crisis! In fact until today, some European countries have yet recover from the messy 2008 US atomic financial crisis! With that in mind, we should instead make sure our little capital actively moving from one stock to another catching as much uptrending movement provided it is fundamentally viable! I didnt say Skpress bad, but with limited window to bull market, you can enter at time when it show uptrending! Just like Instaco last week where it remain stubbornly hover below 30 cents for months then made uptrend! Is it so wrong for one to utilize these limited time to make money instead of looking for argument!
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Posted by Hustle > 2013-10-22 16:20 | Report Abuse
Mr.Gan also need to refer to budget result ker? China import data already increase, suppose move ahead to 0.40 above already.