Let's see if MAA got magic to turn losses to profit. I queue 18cents don't know they willing to sell me cheap or not. More and more queue below 20cents. Everyone waiting buy lower.
Everyone read news on thai bond maturity next month panic sell. Never read in details. But too bad not reaching my buy queue @18cents. Anyway, KNM management should able to get loan from banks for that 370m Thai Bhat. Will someone panic buy later once turned green?
Dunggu2, look at top vol and looser 530+ counters. Some profit taking and some bad sentiments and few related to Serbdk related counters. Dunggu ,current status and last few days is oversold.
Volume 2 mill ++ valued at RM41 mill ++...hit below 0.2 after bertapa so long at price range 0.210 - 0.220
Siapa la yg letgo byk sangat tuuuu...siapa la pulak yg senyum manjang kutip at lower price...
Kita tunggu kalau² ada announcement yg mengemparkan...samada existing big players increasing their shareholding atau ada newcomer yg join the queue...
Apa² pun hatiku tetap tenang...tiada istilah panik...managed to stand still and holding tight..belum pernah jual since buying walau menempoh badai dan gelora yg melanda bermula pada 8/9/2021....
Getaran Jiwa Melanda Hatiku. Kita hold lah ikut abang Yaacob dan abang Rezeki.
Don't contra guys. This counter is very brutal. Tiada belas kasihan. And once you're in, it's like Hotel California - you can check out anytime you like but you can never leave...
This analogy not entire accurate... House has advantage on every metrics. They design the casino layout. They give options only to their favour, like free rooms and cheap alcohol. They replace non performing dealers. What about you retailer? The weird part is, people still go donate money there.
If you are gambler here, you will lose 10/10.
If you are investor, you are playing different game. It's a game of valuation. I check the bond...it's RM370M around 80M USD. Current operating cash can finance the operational expenses and finance cost. Given it's performing asset, I don't think it's that difficult to get restructure the bond/loan like how Armada pare down their 18B debts as long they hv performing asset. Keyword here is performing and non performing asset. What's left is which banks wants a piece of 350M loan at what interest only.
Once restructured, easy 10-20% return.
nedgeon Do you all know why casino make so much money and gamblers always end up losing ? it is all about holding power. Casino can afford to "lose" and hold-on until they win back all the money that they "lost"
== why always sardin ... u guys just let it go..... as long as knm will not bankrupt then should be ok. so far i checked those company MAA involved, share price wont flying, just stable as it is. and DATUK UWE AHRENS is MAA ppl, not sure does he got a chance be replacing current CEO
my concern is how to deal with the debt. is either selling ORSIG or UK project or any other action... every action will have diff impact to the shareholder.
after reading ur whole writing. I can conclude you are noob nedgeon.
Ask you simple question. Even with RM10B sales, can PAT go negative? And if it can go negative, what the point of having RM20B revenue?
U need to watch out fixed expenses especially company with big revenue but small profit carefully. *touchwood any thing happens to the revenue, the PAT goes deep deep in the red.
What I really really don’t like about KNM is it almost RM1B in goodwill asset. You know apa itu asset? BFF with Donald Trump is it? Can liquidate one or not?
Like I say, KNM do hv performing asset that can finance the next RM370M bond/Loan. It's not USD370M. If USD370M bond, I also won't touch with 10 ft pole. Remember it's RM yeah. About USD84m. Just which bank and what finance charges.
KNM is in position to benefit who only. If sell Borsig cheap which benefit next buyer, KNM will hv excess cash dunno what to do. Or they refinance the bond with loan, which will benefit the banks with dunno what finance charges. Else, PP 100M + Current cash position also can settle.
Jack Y my concern is how to deal with the debt. is either selling ORSIG or UK project or any other action... every action will have diff impact to the shareholder. 28/10/2021 8:50 PM
Feel like KNM is struggling with power play. Price is pressed down so that in event needing private placement, the benefactor can get more shares with his RM100M private placement. Every 10% drop = 10% more shares. Think about it.
KNM Group Bhd announced its indirect wholly-owned subsidiary FBM Hudson Italiana SpA had accepted a purchase order (PO) from Saudi Aramco’s subsidiary Saudi Basic Industries Corp (SABIC) for the supply of a reactor gas-gas exchanger, amounting to approximately RM17.7 million. A gas/gas heat exchanger allows the transfer of a heat quantity recovered from raw gas directly to the clean gas side. KNM said the supply and delivery duration of the transaction is for a period of approximately 55 weeks from the date of the PO.
RM 17M...malu la company borsig...healthcare company supply katil hospital pun sudah kontrak harga lebih RM 25M..kasi malu betul la. Lain kali kasi up la macam Serba..bilion2 contract...baru ada muka..haha
That's why I still think you are noob. Ask you very simple question. Is it possible that every dollar company made. Can it lose 20sen? If can, does it make sense to own this business?
Then u give me long @ss essay that says NOTHING. With sales, only sekeciput profit. No sales is gonna be deep deep in the red. Dangerous business to own.
I see from operating cash. Like Serba...billion2 receivables and yada2. No cash. Everytime need to pay dividend, hv to do private placement. Then everyone know it's a shitty company.
Operating cash for KNM is ok ok la. Receivables to operating cash conversion is still healthy. "Billion" of sales only translate abit into cash. If the billions u claim can translate to cash, why I don't see them on balance sheet? Where genius? Where?
If company making billion dollars of revenue but can't translate into cash in balance sheet only explains one thing. Directors are paying themselves by increasing operational expense. Left nothing for the investors. It's not something you want to own either.
Do you know what is "Profit" and what is "Loss" ? Profit and Loss are just an accounting play. Sales is the actual money coming in. Profit or Loss is "what you want". you can get "what you want" easily. The difficult part is to get the Sales, not the Profit and Loss. Some of you may claim that the sales are "fake", if it is "fake" no way you can do it for so many years, especially when it is RM1 billion+ sales every year ? Can you ? KNM Sales is real for sure because nobody can "fake" such a big sales for so many years without significant increase in borrowings.
To cut it short, if business is not to bring in Sales with profits...it's a losing business. And if you bring in Profits and move them into Fixed Assets, it's shown in the Balance Sheets.
So, this is not showing anywhere except in the fantasy mind of Nedgeon...
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Good buy .... but be sure to buy another 016...