@woodswater. Where do you get the latest shareholders list ? According to your list : MELEWAR INDUSTRIAL GROUP 347,201,800 shares is more than 5% of the total voting shares. I wonder if your list is true, how come there is non disclosure of this substantial shareholder (Section 137 CA 2016) till today ? I assume you have insider connection to KNM therefore you have access to the list ? Or you drive to their registered office to see the register or the Registrar send you the list (Section 144 CA)?
@woodswater you're spreading fake information in this forum. First, you were doing a countdown and now you're doing this. Looks like you're a low-life scammer!
@woodswater thank you for sharing. seem like they want to display their cards to the public forum to drum up support. this proxy battle is really very interesting to watch. i think just like most elections, it's a matter of choosing the lesser evil. in my opinion, i find that TY is just as untrustworthy as the german. both just serve their interest rather than the company ( to include minority interest at heart). not much info about the german so can't comment. as for TY, the precedent of his other listed companies (melewar, maa group) can be witness clearly; shareholders not getting any dividend and share price doing badly while he just take exorbitant salary relative to the company performance. i think this might be same fate for us here too.
@Woodswater First of all, I never called you PN cybertrooper. However if I have missed that then now I tell you. Bringing politics in this forum is wrong.
Secondly you should stick to one side. Support or no support. You are jumping left to right then front to back. Your comments are misleading.
Frankly, I am curious about a foreign party just suddenly bought sizeable shares into KNM a month ago and claiming to come to rescue a Malaysian bred company founded by the Lee family, when in fact the founders expelled by the previous board whom are scheming to takeover bid now? Why Malaysians have no talents or knowledge to run a Malaysian company? If a Malaysian Lee family can build such a valuable group, so can Malaysians run that group efficiently. If we don't support our own people, who else will? Some jokers plowing their way overnight into a Malaysian treasure, and we tiny bilis share holders just watch it happening? Hilariously, few local cahoots joined in to topple another Malaysian team. Hahaha, what a life is this, man, so unfair...
If the foreign party buy into KNM as much as 30% or more, okay lar, they have the guts to try their best 👌 salute! But ini less than 8% nak mintak hakmilik, haiyoo, go play jauh jauh lar... or buy 2B shares then come talk, okay ada umphh. First of all, none of foreign investors will ever buy into a PN17 after 1 year it happened. Secondly, the company has receivership summons pending, without restraining order, it would gone down the drain, yet wanna try luck? Thirdly, why didn't sapu shares when it was 5sen? If the current board can keep creditors calm while turning around the company, that's hard work, that's serious work, that's real and that's sincerity in place. Why the interested party yet to announce their detailed plans how to rescue KNM? It's 2 weeks away only. Just curious 🤔 of course convincing and promising plans should be supported, best plan wins...like injecting some billion euros interest free grant to retire all debts and buy more assets, yum yum...very convincing 😋
If 1 party buying, and it's progressive and in control mode, chances to fall flat is so much higher if the attempt did not succeed... whichever the case, frying into hot oil for bilis preparation for nasi lemak...😅😂
@Woodswater, wow, alot can be learned from you... just cross fingers, KNM won't sink due to one self-gratified party, but rather look at longer term, keeping the group as global brand.
As the EGM date comes nearer we are curious to know Andreas/Flavio plan to revive KNM to its good ole days. So far no news.
We have to assume they only want Borsig. They will be forced to pay off the big creditors but small ones won't get anything. Small investors and bilis will kantoi...
At 4c, no takeover or no privatisation took place because.... at that time, even if strip all assets from knm, still have to pay balance hutang( even now) Ethanol plant was making a loss, FBM in the verge of collapsing and only borsig making money.
And maybe the operators are collecting from 4c till now. Later during EGM suddenly 40 ppl turn up with 0.99%share( hidden hands) + German guy about 10%... If I have 200 million rm, this is how I will take over knm.
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let' s go back to 4 c scenario km fell into pn17 . Y no privatized announced with such cheap cheap price ? Once bcame personal toy ( knm ) later can separate borsig to list on sgx to gain max benefit !
@CyrusQ. Hahaha you made me laugh 😃 thanks buddy.. 👍
@Woodswater, your prediction could be right, mopping up time could begin now onwards during Oktoberfest @ festival on 10... I just read Flavio's appointment to KNM, taken place in 2020, followed by FBM Chairman cum joint MD of Borsig pushed up as GCEO taking over the outgoing GCEO Mr Lee, all the disposals discussions I foresee had happened between 2020 and Nov 2022, until the current management put a stop to all these nonsense realising the negative consequences it may bring to KNM. Obviously, the ejected party will not be quiet logically speaking, and 8 months of incubation & gathering like-minded splinter members to do the strike now. Wow, Woodswater, you put the puzzles together in order. 🤒🤥 wallau-eh, can make movie already from this storyline...🤠
We know that Andreas Heeschen is just the macai of Flavio Porro, the Italian lawyer who was formerly director of KNM. Andreas is also known as German bilionaire tycoon. This news report expose who Andreas really is. He is actually a bad guy who try to bribe Angela Merckle's political party.
Now can we trust a guy like that to run a Malaysian's listed company KNM? Just take a look yourself...
Too much fake news here trying to get minority shareholders who owns majority of outstanding shares to sell to parties that want to win the upcoming proxy fight for cheap cheap price. NO THANK YOU.
The most profound statement was trying to get us to sell our shares before price go to 0. ?? If price go to 0, won’t I just be able to buy the whole group, liquidate its assets and keep the difference for free. Care to give us KNM’s liquidation value? I bet it’s pretty high compared to current super low stock price.
Yes, Tunku and the current management has put a stop to all the nonsense. Now they are taking the next step - to reverse the damage.
The management will propose the following at the upcoming SOA meeting on 12/10/2023:-
Debt is RM1.1 billion Borsig stake 40% of the New Stock Exchange and is expected to be worth at least RM700 million (they will show the calculation, on a conservative basis) Sell FBM @$80 million = RM400 million Sell Impress Ethanol @$50 million = RM250 million Total income/cash flow as above is RM1.35 billion, enough to cover all creditors with RM250 million to spare.
1. Let's make things simple...just look at the guys the German wants to appoint as BOD...are they credible and with O&G background? The Companies they are running now, are they solid with good track record? Just these few points will tell us alot about what their intentions are. BTW Woodswater, if you don't know how to write a proper sentence intelligently, I suggest you go and take some English lessons first on proper writing before you dump more RUBBISH in this forum.
Knm looks like coming.... Seems like someone been accumulating lots of shares at 0.12-0.13, with the most at 0.125 last week. Waiting for it to breakout above 0.135.
Good day everyone, so excited to see all of you here with varied opinions. At the end of the day, it's one's own decision whether to cash out or hold on, based on experiences, in-depth research, or simply insider tips, if it still exists nowadays. Well, out of curiosity, I took all the numbers and used AI-assisted data predictor to determine the current value based on its fundamentals, interesting facts to discover. Anyway, it all depends on human factors ie. management team creative thinking, connections, networking strengths, timing, funding, etc etc...
@batigoal, oh you didnt know the story? Emm, well, boardroom tussle by past board due to greed, involving world's billionaires etc. The group is holding a golden goose in its portfolio, everyone wants it, hope they don't slaughter it by then...
A journalist friend referred the website. Not sure if it's fake but the info can be confirmed with the KNM company, especially the proposal regarding the SOA meeting on 12/10. Staff at KNM confirmed it to be true. Let's wait and see. It's only next week. They say the Andreas photo is correct also.
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