Posted by xiang > 2013-12-12 10:37 | Report Abuse

welcome to this counter ....

Posted by gaomin > 2013-12-12 10:41 | Report Abuse

Yes I have this counter .Last month bought 18.5 sen and sold 20.5 sen . Bought back at 20 sen and keep until now . Can buy some more if the mother share moves higher it will bring higher % gain .

Posted by Lasallian > 2013-12-12 10:44 | Report Abuse

Saya masih pegang lagi!

Posted by coco65 > 2013-12-18 16:34 | Report Abuse

just listed a month? worth buying?

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-12-18 16:37 | Report Abuse

i do the math for u

exercise ratio 5 to 1 exercise price 2.70

mother 4.02
son-ca 0.31

Premium = 2.70+(5 X 0.31) less 4.02 = 0.23/4.02= 5.72%

premium extremely low for a call warrant that have 11 months to expiry

DEFINITELY WORTH TO BUY

Posted by i3i2i1 > 2013-12-18 16:54 | Report Abuse

Sephiroth, tq for the info, but what happens when the 11 months reached? if ca is 0.35, premium will be about 10.6%, means better or worst?

Posted by coco65 > 2013-12-18 16:55 | Report Abuse

thank you very much ! i am blind trader, follow trend only and simply hentam. Much appreciate your work out ! anyway, my first time to to encounter CA~

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-12-18 17:03 | Report Abuse

i3i2i1, the premium change every time mother share price change. at closing 4.05 and ca still 0.31, the premium have reduce to 4.73% which is unrealistically low
2.70+(5 X 0.31) less 4.05 = 0.23/4.05 = 4.73%

Posted by lly316 > 2013-12-18 17:14 | Report Abuse

seph, Wat is ur TP for this CA??

Posted by i3i2i1 > 2013-12-18 18:16 | Report Abuse

seph, what i mean is the % need to be high?
and we buy when the premium is low? lower is better?

Posted by luyee > 2013-12-18 18:29 | Report Abuse

i3i2i1, it depends on how you view the growth of this company.
long term buyers of 0.31 today are confident that mother price will be more than 2.7+(5x0.31) in 11months or sooner.
short term buyers of 0.31 today are confident that mother price will break 4.2 next week?

Posted by Tessa Joseph > 2013-12-18 18:33 | Report Abuse

Luyee :)

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-12-18 18:38 | Report Abuse

i3i2i1, definitely the lower the premium the better
luyee, mother share can breach 2.7+(5x0.31) aka 4.25 in 1 week or so so the tp for ca shd be at least 40 now

Posted by CityTrader > 2013-12-18 20:07 | Report Abuse

need to learn all this conversion.. i m stil blur blur & TQ Sephiroth for your kind guidance..

Posted by Jerry > 2013-12-19 01:00 | Report Abuse

issue size 40 mils, today's volumns 26 mils approx. 65% of issue size. Worth? Now trending O&G, thats why you say worth. For me, it's like an boom

Posted by luyee > 2013-12-19 01:36 | Report Abuse

why is it like a bomb, Jerry? I don't understand. :(

Posted by luyee > 2013-12-19 01:43 | Report Abuse

i3i2i1, not necessarily "warrant premium lower better" works for all counters.
For example, the premium of hibiscus-wa was at some discount(negative premium) yesterday, if you have bought it yesterday, you might still be awake like me now. cannot sleep :(

Posted by wesley_yk2004 > 2013-12-19 10:26 | Report Abuse

Just bought @ 0.32. Hope for the best...

Posted by lly316 > 2013-12-19 16:27 | Report Abuse

no more goreng or..........????

Posted by Jerry > 2013-12-20 12:30 | Report Abuse

lol so today will you still say i's worth? sephiroth? If mother's share it's ok, but warrant is another style to play.. When it's no longer hot, you will see it traded at discount...

Posted by Jerry > 2013-12-20 12:31 | Report Abuse

warrant hit and run, you can't keep

Posted by Gladys > 2013-12-27 14:36 | Report Abuse

when is the expired date of this warrant?thanks for reply:)

Posted by iafx > 2013-12-27 14:37 | Report Abuse

10/11/2014

Posted by Muhammad Jamaluddin > 2013-12-28 00:47 | Report Abuse

I Q THIS COUNTER..

Posted by newbie2013 > 2013-12-28 15:08 | Report Abuse

ca is by cash. look at exercise price, expiry date and also the converstion factor. if mother is high then your cash pay back is high.

Posted by kcyim1970 > 2014-02-14 21:52 | Report Abuse

The mother share should have made sufficient technical adjustment with a drop of 23 cents from 4.58. It's time for it to fly again. When the mother share flies, the CA will hopefully fly even higher.

Posted by Lasallian > 2014-02-15 15:00 | Report Abuse

Hope for the best!

Posted by kcyim1970 > 2014-02-18 23:21 | Report Abuse

Dear players out there, when are you going to goreng on this counter or its mother ?

Posted by kakaddie13 > 2014-02-20 15:05 | Report Abuse

hahaha @kcyim1970 i wish the same thing

Posted by kcyim1970 > 2014-02-25 23:42 | Report Abuse

I am really caught this time. In hand, I have altogether 62 lots which were bought at 36 and 37 cents. Serve me right being greedy. Ha Ha !

Posted by Gladys > 2014-02-26 13:39 | Report Abuse

anyone has idea how high its price could reach before its expiry date?

Posted by sephiroth > 2014-04-19 10:11 | Report Abuse

it's time to relook at umwog-ca, most recent tp of 5.15 by maybank / 5.00 by cimb/ 4.82 by TA, even the most pessimistic tp range from 4.12 (HLG) to 4.15(Alliance). I think the selldown by foreign shareholders on the mother share is overdone

at 24.5 sen, the premium is only 1.95%
Exercise price 2.70 / Exercise ratio 5:1/ Expiry date 10 Nov 2014
Premium = Ex-price + (Warrant price X Excersise ratio) LESS mother share price /mother share price

= 2.70 + (24.5 X 5) LESS 3.85 / 3.85
= 1.948%

Posted by Ambenz Benz > 2014-04-19 12:15 | Report Abuse

ok,thks.

Posted by SpeedyBoy > 2014-04-20 22:43 | Report Abuse

Low premium presents an opportunity to enter.

Posted by sephiroth > 2014-04-21 15:21 | Report Abuse

huaaaaaattttttttttttt aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, moving liau, 28

Posted by sephiroth > 2014-04-22 16:53 | Report Abuse

29.5 liau kikikiki

Posted by sephiroth > 2014-05-02 10:43 | Report Abuse

30.5 liau

Posted by sephiroth > 2014-05-05 14:38 | Report Abuse

31.5 liau $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted by Gladys > 2014-05-08 11:47 | Report Abuse

any one could share how to convert warrant to its mother share later?thanks

Posted by Gladys > 2014-08-26 15:53 | Report Abuse

Sephiroth,i hold this at 0.30-0.32,should i sell it to stop loss now or wait expiry date to convert?And how to calculate ?How much need to top up for the convertion?I really need so advice here,tq....

Posted by klml > 2014-09-19 16:27 | Report Abuse

sephiroth, have you sold your ca?

Posted by klml > 2014-09-22 12:36 | Report Abuse

Gladys have u sold yrs?