“K C, what is your view on Robert’s adverse posting on Hevea in i3investor”
A course participant asked me on August 30 2016 when Hevea’s share price was wacked down by more than 10% to RM1.05 from RM1.20+ in just a couple of days.
“Avoid following rumours and baseless accusation and just focus on the fundamentals”, I said.
Yes, what we read from bloggers we have to take it with a pinch of salt, in fact, it should be a handful of salt as there are all kinds of rumours, half-truths, lies and more lies in the internet. You are fortunate that you have learned the language of business and you should be able to evaluate if the second 2016 quarterly results were bad as claimed by Robert, without any justification. You can also evaluate the value of the company, using the various valuation techniques that you have learned and come out with a range of values, and also take a peep in the future of the business of Hevea. I am pretty sure you can come out with better judgement on your own.
“K C, what you say Tan Teng Boo has a target price for hevea at 60 sen, half its share price now?”
That was another question asked by another course participant a couple of months ago when we had a drink at Sunway Pyramid. I didn’t pay much attention to it then but this issue was raised again by a few more participants in our WhatsApp group just a couple of days ago. This time, I think I must look at how TTB has come out with his target price of 60 sen as this is a huge deviation of my estimated value. TTB is a pioneer in value investing in Bursa, I thought we should pay heed to what he says. In investing, it pays to look at other people’s point of view too. I got a copy of icap’s report from one of my participants.
My previous analysis
Five months ago I have written about Hevea as a stock pick in this service when it was trading at RM1.17. I have done detail analysis and given you a comprehensive report about my investment thesis. Its share price has risen a little, not much, but with the dividends, the total return is about 10% now, which is satisfactory in this short term, in my opinion, although the long-term return is what we are looking for. Appended below was my conclusions in my report.
[Conclusions
Hevea, in the past few years, has transformed itself from a very risky company with huge debts facing a financial crisis in 2008 to a highly profitable and safe company with net cash now. It exhibits high growth in recent years and earns high return on capital with excellent cash flows and free cash flows. In another words, Hevea has transformed itself into a great company.
The investment thesis of Hevea lies in its low market valuation with earnings yield of 19.3% and its high cash yield of more than 10%, more than twice that an investor can get from putting his money in bank fixed deposit.
The conservative GCGM with growth assumption just matching the rate of inflation shows that Hevea is worth RM2.18 per share, or a margin of safety of 46% investing in it at RM1.18.
I see little risk in investing in a good company at a cheap price, but potential in extra-ordinary gain.]
The intrinsic value of Hevea of RM2.18 has taken into the dilution effect of the warrants using the Black-Scholes OPM in my analysis. There won’t be significant difference if you consider the warrants are fully all converted as the warrants are deep in-the-money now. But how come there is such a huge discrepancy between my valuation and that of TTB, bearing in mind that we both follow fundamental value investing.
Let us have a look at what TTB’s analysis and report is on Hevea as shown in his report. It is either I was overly optimistic or he is too pessimistic. It is the two ends of extreme.
Icap’s evaluation on Hevea
For sure icap has very good qualitative analysis about Hevea, and for most companies they analyze. This is understandable as they are the professionals and this is their rice bowl. We can’t get near to them.
Reading through the report, I see many positive points mentioned by icap on Hevea. These are:
These were basically what I had seen. Why not, as we both follow fundamental analysis.
But why the target price of 60 sen?
Dear course participants, I am afraid you have interpreted wrongly what icap is saying. It never says the target price of Hevea is 60 sen if you read the report thoroughly. it merely mentioned that,
"Based on these, icap rates Hevea as a Buy at below RM0.60 for long term"
Anything wrong with the above statement by icap? I don’t think so.
You were taught as value investors. We should only buy a stock when it is selling at a wide margin of safety, weren’t you? TTB has always been very consistent with his opinion, that the market is heading for a crash since some years ago, and hence his low recommended buying price, in any stock he analyzes now. He, however, didn’t come out with any valuation of Hevea and we don’t know what intrinsic value he has for Hevea, 20 sen, 30 sen? We don’t know. But we do see a glimpse of its opinion on Hevea in its conclusions as shown in points form below.
I will try to give my opinions on icap’s concern as below:
Second quarter 2016 results
Hevea reported its second quarter 2016 results at the end of August. Revenue for the half year increased by 18% to RM268m and net profit by 15% to RM35.4m compared to the corresponding period last year. Free cash flows remained strong at RM30m for the 6 months. Needless to say, the balance sheet continues to improve with net cash now at RM100m, up from RM67m at end of last year. As a result of this good FCF, a first interim dividend of 1.3 sen was paid. There is no negative surprise in the results so far.
Conclusions
I always propagating on focusing on the fundamentals of investing. Good to read analysts’ reports, listen to market talks, including forecasting of macro-economic events, but do not let them dictate too much on your investment decisions. You are well equipped to analyze and make independent judgment on your investment with all the knowledge in fundamental investing that you have already acquired. Make full use of all this knowledge in your investing decision. You should be doing satisfactory in the long run.
I do not see any significant event which will adversely affect the business of Hevea. To me, at RM1.25 now, it is still a steal. Of course it will be fantastic if you can buy at 60 sen. However, sometimes one has to be realistic in our investment, as well as life in general. Don’t you think so?
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.”
― Winston S. Churchill
In case you have any further question or comments, you may contact me at
ckc15training2@gmail.com
KC Chong
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if u want find value, please have a look at dufu....extremely undervalued haha
2016-09-19 12:12
Hats off to KC for a very good analyzing of TTB evaluation and KC own views. I have confidence and will continue to hold on to my Hevea shares.
2016-09-19 18:03
The real qustion is, is it better than the 'other' furniture company...
2016-09-19 18:14
I am now not sure about the industry in near future, so I choose to stay side way. Anyhow, it is good article to share with.
TTB is always smart, it is not wrong to recommend to buy for long term if price is below RM0.60.
But it's like recommend to buy Genting for long term if price is below RM4.00.
Actually, it will never be wrong since the chance to get wrong with that price is extremely slim as it is impossible at the moment.
Even at the worse case scenario, TTB can still give another report incorporating latest bad development & recommend further lower entry price, say RM2.00? That's how the business run, right?
2016-09-19 23:17
Hevea is much better investment than Reach Energy Bhd, the SPAC which is going to get booted out from Bursa Malaysia
2016-09-20 00:50
Posted by moneySIFU > Sep 19, 2016 11:17 PM | Report Abuse
I am now not sure about the industry in near future, so I choose to stay side way. Anyhow, it is good article to share with.
TTB is always smart, it is not wrong to recommend to buy for long term if price is below RM0.60.
But it's like recommend to buy Genting for long term if price is below RM4.00.
Actually, it will never be wrong since the chance to get wrong with that price is extremely slim as it is impossible at the moment.
Even at the worse case scenario, TTB can still give another report incorporating latest bad development & recommend further lower entry price, say RM2.00? That's how the business run, right?
Good comments moneySIFU. Yeah, you don't have to swing at every pitch.
2016-09-20 21:37
Posted by SohaiHamid > Sep 20, 2016 12:50 AM | Report Abuse
Hevea is much better investment than Reach Energy Bhd, the SPAC which is going to get booted out from Bursa Malaysia
There are many reasons SPAC is extremely hard to be successful.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/86227.jsp
You cannot compare a SPAC investment with Hevea.
2016-09-21 13:58
many board manufacturer is having poor demand for their product and reduced quarters, example like Ta ann, evergreen .. will it escalate to price war?
2016-09-21 14:30
TTB is the smartest guy on earth, charge 2.5% management fee and put cash in bank for 3.5%, net net you gain 1%,he gain 2.5% for doing nothing, TAN TENG BOO, THE BEST SELF INVESTOR ON EARTH!
2016-09-21 18:48
ronnietan
I've reservations readers should consider TTB a pioneer in value investing.
He mis-timed the market, holding surplus cash in his fund for several years,
while the market rallied, and value investors generally made double-digit gains. His methodology seems to be top-down as an economist.
2016-09-19 11:35