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94 comment(s). Last comment by cpteh 2012-03-18 02:35

cpteh

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Posted by cpteh > 2012-02-08 06:49 | Report Abuse

many here are not my readers? I do not call myself sifu? As traders, we do cut-loss small? If I hold at 1.30 and it went down to 80cents, then 50cents, what should I do? average down? This is not an article ... it is a blog? I rest my case. Good luck everyone

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 10:40 | Report Abuse

CPTEH: I have no problem with the way you trade, thats none of my business because we all make bad decisions from time to time. but when you deliberately publish something to incite panic in people without facts and figures, thats as bad bad as defrauding the public. You claim the counter is : "manipulated", "overvalued", "overstretched". Please explain to everyone using facts and supporting evidence how you came to this conclusion. Blog or article, makes no difference, the information is absolutely and utterly misleading and false.

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 10:52 | Report Abuse

moreover, these are some very serious accusations and allegations you have made against their company without facts and supporting evidence. Think about what you are doing for one minute, because Iam sure you would not appreciate it if someone made false and misleading accusations against your personal trading business etc without any facts or evidence.

If you have a problem with the information I have provided in forum re JCY, then by all means blog about it and explain to the public with FACTS and EVIDENCE. please do not make false accusations and allegations because you are not able to refute the the information. You may be able to mislead the minority who are financially illiterate but many will see through what you are trying to do.

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 11:01 | Report Abuse

CPTEH: Even after my comments about this blog, you still have not removed/updated the entry. So you are going to leave it there to mislead more people. be a responsible person and remove it or update it with facts/evidence. Otherwise If this is the kind of teachings that your are instilling into the next generation of traders, people would be very very worried indeed.

Posted by patrickngoa > 2012-02-08 11:31 | Report Abuse

yes, lamken, now he is dumped by JCY, hahahaha, bang head like hell now JCY 1.50, lol

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 12:39 | Report Abuse

Patrickngoa: medium term tp rm4 no problem one.

Posted by kschai77i3 > 2012-02-08 12:49 | Report Abuse

I noticed there was two Selling transactions cost over 3mil early in the open day. There were first two transactions at price 1.47 & 1.46. What does it mean? what is the signal? Can anyone comment?

Posted by patrickngoa > 2012-02-08 13:19 | Report Abuse

anyway, jcy has been give me daily 1k contra, what a dumped gold for me, lol

talk2pkc

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Posted by talk2pkc > 2012-02-08 14:05 | Report Abuse

With respect, it never gave me the impression you are "sifu" nor a "trainee" but just a individual who like to believe is good in the game !!! Simple logic , since mid-Oct 11 it was trading around 0.56 and progressive gaining speed by the week todate , CPTEH, I find it amaze with your so-called "experience" bought it at 1.30 where it has already gone up by more than 2 folds and you not knowing why ????? Let's hope there are more rain in Thailand and JCY will be smiling all the way to the bank !!!!!!!

Posted by patrickngoa > 2012-02-08 14:10 | Report Abuse

yes, let's go to the bank, JCY bank, lol

kclee

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Posted by kclee > 2012-02-08 14:37 | Report Abuse

i smell evil in this post

jtpc2006

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Posted by jtpc2006 > 2012-02-08 14:47 | Report Abuse

peace brothers, let's do our trading and most importantly profiting from this counter. Heigh ho and away we go for the $$.
Lamken, can still go in? I miss the boat this time.

kclee

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Posted by kclee > 2012-02-08 15:04 | Report Abuse

buy @ 1.22, sell @ 1.50. DONE. Please know what you are doing. Greed won't do any good. Those who having "get rich scheme" on mind on stock market wont go far anyway.

Happy trading and have a nice flight guys.

KcLEE

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 15:20 | Report Abuse

Jtpc: yes still very undervalued and still got long way to climb. Read my comments in jcy page.

lamken

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Posted by lamken > 2012-02-08 15:22 | Report Abuse

Kclee: explain more pls with facts and evidence. How is this counter a get rich scheme?

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-14 15:33 | Report Abuse

Manager saya suru saya baca ini. Dia kata jangan beli JCY. Saya masih berani. saya guna wang bonus CNY.

kclee

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Posted by kclee > 2012-02-14 15:50 | Report Abuse

lamken, i did not say THIS PARTICULAR counter is get rich scheme, what i mean is ppl who trade with "get rich minded" thinking...

No evidence or fact is needed... its a natural process in the market, ppl get greed, get burned, get blamed.

I can 101% now there are more,if not at least SOME reader ofyours regarding JCY are swearing at you. Its not your fault and I am glad that you actually spend your hard time to give facts here...indeed it is very good, but in a market, there is "NO CERTAINTY"... the way you present your fact is like making ppl MUST trust you... those who start to fight against your idea, you will be "rude", and keep pouring fact and numbers on them... I know number is always the fact but it is not ALL THE TIME in the market...

Be open minded... and I believe things will get better here :) I feel impressive how you spend ur time doing research and helping people here... I myself are looking into jcy closing now...

So, cheers dude. :) happy trading and be safe.

dknycom

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Posted by dknycom > 2012-02-14 16:03 | Report Abuse

kclee. well said. i hope lamken will accept your advise. tq

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-14 16:38 | Report Abuse

Masih belum dapat. Rm1.25. Lambat sudah

cytew

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Posted by cytew > 2012-02-14 18:02 | Report Abuse

when you analyse a stock, do not just only look at its FA and TA,but also the integrity of directors , especially the CEO.

Adam Ryan

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Posted by Adam Ryan > 2012-02-14 18:35 | Report Abuse

cytew: yes that true, CEO or insider know the better know about their company value

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-14 23:10 | Report Abuse

Hari ini aku miss Q, tak dapat. Harap esok pagi aku dapat tangap JCY, nak cuba Rm1.23.

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-15 08:49 | Report Abuse

Selamat Pagi. Mari kami semua beli hari ini. Mesti berani, jatuh pun beli.

Posted by tradersam 56 > 2012-02-15 09:31 | Report Abuse

Ini bukan pasal berani ! Yang penting mesti berhati-hati. Kalau tidak cari mati.....

cmlooi

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Posted by cmlooi > 2012-02-15 09:56 | Report Abuse

Value is what the masses perceive in their mind. Stocks don't carry values. It's all a climb on the wall of fear. The company has value if there something to return to the owners at end of day including acquisitions or mergers.

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-15 09:58 | Report Abuse

Hi Sam56. Saya baca 3x "Pump and dump" schemes. Tetapi saya masih kurang mengerti. Boleh tolong?

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-15 10:22 | Report Abuse

Na Na Na, naik sudah. sekarang 1.29

ctwcandy

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Posted by ctwcandy > 2012-02-15 10:54 | Report Abuse

everything will fine , will increase back very soon

Posted by tradersam 56 > 2012-02-15 10:55 | Report Abuse

Pendek kata Pump Dump maknanya harga JCY sengaja dimanipulasi naik mendadak oleh sesuatu pihak lepas ia dijual untuk mengaut untung.Kurang lebih mcm Harvest. Ia bukan atas fundamental company. Sybas skrg dah naik!!

tasoke

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Posted by tasoke > 2012-02-16 21:35 | Report Abuse

naik mesti naik masa shj, jagan memang!!!!!!

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-17 07:51 | Report Abuse

Sam, Terima kasih kerana menjawab soalan aku. Yang saya tak mengerti, apa kaitan JCY dengan Pump Dump ? Kenapa orang tulis cerita buruk ? JCY saham baik, untung besar kan. Kenapa si penulis kata JCY Pump Dump ?

Posted by tradersam 56 > 2012-02-17 09:19 | Report Abuse

Setiap penulis ada pendapatan dia sendiri!Mengikut analysis ini harga JCY masa tu tak berpatutan. Dia hanya memberi amaran jgn sebarangan beli tanpa siasat fundamental stock ini.

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-17 15:16 | Report Abuse

Sam, Terima kasih. Awak masih pegang JCY?

Rans

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Posted by Rans > 2012-02-17 15:34 | Report Abuse

This chart is obvious. Smart money same pattern everytime, I was onced a victim. Don't be like me.

chailoy

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Posted by chailoy > 2012-02-17 15:46 | Report Abuse

I think many ppl know that it is manipulated. They try not to be the victim. Hope can make some money and run. But dunno how many were successful. That is the whole point.

cpteh

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Posted by cpteh > 2012-02-17 16:04 | Report Abuse

Hi .... to clarify, I did not say JCY is a pump-n-dump. Someone posted that pump-dump thing in JCY comments and I just posted and pasted. Technically, I just mentioned it is extremely overbought at 1.40-1.50, so as traders ... we would like to take profits first. Then, we shall buy back at ... say, support level which as a few days ago at 1.25-1.26. In fact, it touched 1.23 ... shot-up to 1.30+ before coming back down today(KLCI up0 7points ... not related to JCY, ok?). Back to 1.25 now, will anyone buy? Now ... fundamentally ... IF anyone claiming buying at 1.40-1.50 is cheap, then ... obviously we should be happy to buy ... say at 1.25 now? If it goes to RM1 level, the valuations becoming MUCH cheaper and logically, we will be happier to BUY more at RM1 or perhaps much much more when it retraces back to ... 80cents? 60cents? 40cents? And as investors ... we will HOLD till it is fully-valued. Be clear, are you using TA or FA? If none, perhaps it is PA + HA? punt and hope? It is not wrong either as that is how subjective trading in market is. Hope I clear a little of my post. Thanks

Posted by tradersam 56 > 2012-02-17 16:28 | Report Abuse

cpteh..Thank you for the clarification!

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-20 15:17 | Report Abuse

Aya.. hari-hari-hari jatuh...

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-02-20 16:10 | Report Abuse

jatuh lagi.. Sakit kepala la...

Posted by Usry Bin Abdullah > 2012-02-20 16:17 | Report Abuse

Undukngadau: wait for mega sale next wekk.. if i have a good luck may be i will buy at RM1 or RM0.50...!!! hahahaha
tell u already,the share price was influence by few factor such as market sentiment.. so pandai2 la bawak diri..

Posted by Cantona2662 > 2012-02-20 16:32 | Report Abuse

When u have an imaginary target px or fair value in ur head for eg 2.00 and the px comes down to 1.50, u think to urself, WOW! its now cheaper by 50sen...i shud buy more! Then, when the px goes down even further to 1.00, u comfort urself by saying OMG! if i buy sumore, i can make a 100pct return or DOUBLE UP !

This is what AVERAGING DOWN means and simply put, Averaging ur LOSERS just DOESNT WORK!!
The only Fair Value that is relevant is the CURRENT PX.

-peace-

fakedevil

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Posted by fakedevil > 2012-02-20 16:39 | Report Abuse

waahhh...current px already 1.20??go down somemore please...grabbing this stock end of this week or early next week :D

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-03-13 09:16 | Report Abuse

Kawan kawan, boleh beli hari kah? Murah oh

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-03-13 09:17 | Report Abuse

JCY cheap sale oh, boleh beli kah? Tangan saya gatal la.

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2012-03-13 09:44 | Report Abuse

your boss got giving any advise?

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-03-13 10:34 | Report Abuse

Saya suka awak la, Mr Tim Buddy. Dia main CSL(5214) & SYF(7082). Saya punya duit kurang. Hanya boleh labur JCY & Scomi. Awak pula? Apa stock?

Posted by Fat Cat Tim Buddy > 2012-03-13 10:46 | Report Abuse

haha what you like about me? i got jcy ppb costal...

Posted by undukngadau > 2012-03-13 16:00 | Report Abuse

Mr Tim Buddy, awak bikin aku ketawa(happy) lah. Saya ada key beli JCY Rm1.08, belum kena lah....

Posted by Usry Bin Abdullah > 2012-03-13 16:43 | Report Abuse

Unduk: i told u already..wait until RM1.00 than we buy..
don't worry,.still have a room for this share to down another 5-10cents..
(but if it down to 90 cents..i will cabut kuat2.. useless to pegang this share already coz it will down until 40cents same as last year price..)

cpteh

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Posted by cpteh > 2012-03-18 02:35 | Report Abuse

Reply to talk2tpc

With respect, it never gave me the impression you are "sifu" nor a "trainee" but just a individual who like to believe is good in the game !!! Simple logic , since mid-Oct 11 it was trading around 0.56 and progressive gaining speed by the week todate , CPTEH, I find it amaze with your so-called "experience" bought it at 1.30 where it has already gone up by more than 2 folds and you not knowing why ????? Let's hope there are more rain in Thailand and JCY will be smiling all the way to the bank !!!!!!!

Hi there ... sorry for overlook your previous comment. I do not read much into comments or such. You MUST be yet another new reader ... the last time I bought JCY at 1.30 WAS when it dived from RM2 plus!! I hv cut-loss at 1.25 and it dived below RM1 ... to 60cents ... sorry for late reply, but please do not have any personal attacks or jumping into your own conclusion. Yes, I am just a novice learning, like many around.

TEH

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