Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-02 13:24 |

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Posted by Halite > 2018-09-02 13:49 | Report Abuse

Yang berhormat,

We come here to read what you said about lionind earning potential. The just released result good or bad, KC said no good because minus exceptional item it become zero. Future eye, probability and otb said can be good later because of HBI. Ks55 caution something about the impairment, Stockraider said about uncle koon, halite said uncle's intention is good but too honest. Nowadays it is not easy to cheat lah, if not the kampung malay would not had voted UMNO out in the election.

Ok?

No gaduh, no personal attack, stick strickly to the topic of discussion. If not I will do my job to invite you sit outside.

Posted by anticonman > 2018-09-02 13:57 | Report Abuse

Kc is 1 fake accountant.

Posted by ks55 > Sep 2, 2018 01:10 PM | Report Abuse
No.
I am referring to fake accountant.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 14:13 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 2, 2018 01:24 PM | Report Abuse
I attack otb and kc for good reasons one....
this is the best way to illustrate my points.

Bring your horse over. We need some entertainment in i3investor. Without you, there is less fun here.

Bring it on.

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-02 14:15 | Report Abuse

Tun Dr. Mahathir's Forest City Mistake - Koon Yew Yin
Author: Koon Yew Yin | Publish date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018, 01:27 PM

Most readers are aware that I have been a strong supporter of Tun Dr. Mahathir when he decided to join Pakatan Harapan in getting rid of Prime Minister Najib Razak and Barisan rule. I am proud to say that I joined Tun Dr. Mahathir and Perak Pakatan leaders during their election rounds in the state and campaigned vigorously for them in my election speeches and I also provided financial support to all the 4 component parties.


It is truly gratifying to see that there is now a new state and federal government in place and to know that a new Malaysia is being born in which I played a small role in assisting in this rebirth.

Since then I have been appointed as a member of an Economic Advisory Committee to advise the new Perak state government on how to revive the state's economy which has stagnated after over 50 years of Barisan rule.

As an independent adviser, I feel it is important for me not only to monitor developments at the state level but also at the national one. It is also necessary that I frankly assess these developments and communicate my concerns should there be any.

One issue has been in the public eye recently which warrants my speaking out.

This is the Forest City project taking place in Johor which has become the target of considerable press coverage – nationally and internationally - as a result of a statement made by Tun Dr. Mahathir. According to news reports, Tun Dr. Mahathir told a business conference that overseas buyers will no longer be allowed to purchase homes in the US$100 billion Forest City development.

"One thing is certain, the city that is going to be built cannot be sold to foreigners".

Further he added “we are not going to give visas for people to come and live here. Our objection (towards this project) is because it was built for foreigners, not built for Malaysians.

Concerns over Tun Dr. Mahathir's Stand

Much as I respect the Prime Minister, I feel that he has not only spoken out of turn but also wrongly on this matter.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 14:16 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 2, 2018 12:56 PM | Report Abuse
this kc what is he good at?
whatever he is good at, making money is not one of them.

This article discuss about issues, prediction of quarterly results, steel industry etc. It has nothing to do with personality.

Why do you want to bring in kc?

Why do you care if he makes money?

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-02 14:16 |

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Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-02 14:25 | Report Abuse

This time raider have to agree with kyy loh....!!

Very stupid loh....!!

Forest city has to go on mah, do not destroy the golden goose mah...!!

Why leh ?? What msian get ??

1. sell properties govt get stamp duties, quit rent and assessment, land development levies, management fees, broker fees etc.
2. They may use local construction material, some local staffs and rent local house & hotel mah...!!
3. The shops got more visits from the chinese owners and tourist loh....!!
4. The may take the malay taxis, grabs, durian etc loh....!!

If they stay they buy car, buy groceries, visit doctors....did give economic activities loh....!!
Raider ask what is the hard leh ???

Very very very stupid....this kind of nationalistic thinking loh...!!

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 14:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Sep 2, 2018 12:56 PM | Report Abuse
this kc what is he good at?
whatever he is good at, making money is not one of them.


Well, I have no comment on this comment as I do not like to boast around in the internet space. But just something to ponder about; are you good at making money in the stock market?

This may provide the answer.

quote "I believe if there is a survey done on qqq3 and me,
I am very sure I beat qqq3 flat.
qqq3 lost to me in a gentleman competition.
He is a forever loser if compared against me.

In term of knowledge and wealth, I am very sure I beat him flat.
qqq3 jumps 10 times still lose to me.

I told Mr Koon not to depend on me on stock recommendation, qqq3 can help him.
You guess what is the answer ?
If he is so good, he would have made million in KLSE.

RM 100k also cannot take out to invest in KLSE, how to make million ?

I am so sorry to say it out in this manner, I have no choice because he misbehave himself.
I do not wish to attack any person in I3 unless he bad mouth me all the times.

I stop here.

Thank you.
Ooi" Unquote

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 14:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by Halite > Sep 2, 2018 02:28 PM | Report Abuse
Both KC and qqq3 share the same view lionind earning potential is not as promising as future eye, otb and probability said.
Since same view, the there is no horse to come over
Talk about otb is out of the topic, discussion not alliwed.
Please respect the ruling

Ah Seng, when you read something, you have to understand it before you make statement.

When and where did I make my view on the future earnings potential of Lionind?

When and where I share a similar view with this triple q? I don't want to touch him even if a ten-foot pole!

Posted by stockraider > 2018-09-02 14:44 |

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Posted by Halite > 2018-09-02 14:46 | Report Abuse

KC,



1. You are right. I check back the record, you indeed did not say anything about the future, you said about the current QR.

2. I will never put you name together with QQQ3 again

Please forgive my negligence

Thank you for the correction

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-02 16:06 | Report Abuse

This Lion thing , $ 900 million revenue last quarter......makes hardly any thing at operating level., and this while we have tarifs.

now, tell me...

why should Pakatan protect this WC and make our houses more expensive?

HBI? HBI was invented only after future eyes wrote his fake stuffs in i3?


any company with such high revenue can not make money....u want to touch?

now....look at this kc......


big picture la, business sense la....talk business sense la, big picture la......no need look with microscope to see.....accountant or not makes no difference in this case.....


in the case of Hibiscus....the sophisticated Accountant Profession has colluded with the corporations to produce their Accounting Standards for Mergers that produces accounts like Hibiscus that nobody understands unless one is an accountant.

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-02 19:23 | Report Abuse

Good news.

In view of the good conduct of all participants
Warning point issued earlier is hereby cancelled
The demerit system is now ended.
Thank you.

Posted by klee > 2018-09-02 20:08 | Report Abuse

Get ready for more open letters when markets plunge this month.
Talking about sore losers putting the blame on someone else.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 21:12 | Report Abuse

Posted by Sslee > Sep 2, 2018 07:58 AM | Report Abuse
Dear KCChong,
I look into quarter report of HRC and Lionind. I think at most we can try to calculate/predict the operation profit. What is very difficult to predict is others losses sometime I suspect the management is playing with the account.
I really sympathy with OTB despite his hard working and doing a lot of research the quarter result remain unpredictable.
Thank you


All profits, whether operating or net profits are difficult to predict. It is difficult for retail investors, it is also difficult for professional analysts who have all the data, talk to management etc. Even it is difficult for management to predict.

Management can and often manage profit, but normally to make it good, rather than the other way around.

That is the theme of this article.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-02 21:56 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-02 21:57 |

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-09-02 22:28 | Report Abuse

qqq3 this kc want to focus on KYY because it is popular to do so.
I want to focus on his good pal, OTB because it is not popular to do so.

If you have just a little intelligent, you would know that this article is about issues; issues on difficulty in earnings predictions, the steel industry, and the twist-and-turn, and misleading contents about issues etc. It has nothing to do with any personality.

It has nothing to do with anybody whether how rich he is, how he has amassed his wealth, how well-known he is in the society, what he has been appointed to do in what committee etc.

I have no interest, absolutely none about the personality mentioned.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 22:33 |

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 22:40 | Report Abuse

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Posted by qqq3 > Aug 28, 2018 09:16 AM | Report Abuse

I got no idea what good u see in OTB...ability to fool people?

If u can prove yr 3 years' good record here (not 5 years as OTB did) i will show u show respect too....lol

Ans :
I do not mind lose to anyone, definitely not this faked accountant qqq3.
He does not have RM 100k to invest in KLSE.
qqq3 jumps 100 times also cannot beat me.

He competed with me gentlemanly, he lost to me.
Forever, he is a loser to me.
The record is printed in I3.

FYI, he cannot even recommend a stock in I3.
Did you see anyone ?

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 22:43 | Report Abuse

I did not attack any person in I3 unless he bad mouth me.
I cannot post my article in I3 because it is not fair to my subscribers.
I do not see any reason how qqq3 keep on attacking me day and night.
The reason is very simple, he is jealous of my achievement.
Mr Koon trusted me more than him, he get jealous.

I told Mr Koon not to depend on me on stock recommendation, qqq3 can help him.
You guess what is the answer ?
If he is so good, he would have made million in KLSE.

RM 100k also cannot take out to invest in KLSE, how to make million ?

I am so sorry to say it out in this manner, I have no choice because he misbehave himself.
I do not wish to attack any person in I3 unless he bad mouth me all the times.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 22:56 |

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Posted by Tom > 2018-09-02 23:04 | Report Abuse

Why you never mentioned about all your lousy buy calls which cause your subscribers lost a lot of money.....lol

No....don't tell me why....I already have the answer....lol

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Sep 2, 2018 10:56 PM | Report Abuse

Many of my good friends who had followed my recommendation since 2013, they invested RM 100,000 in 2013, the new capital at the end of 2017 was 1.2 Million RM. I certified my statement in my presentation in KL on 1/9/2018.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 23:34 | Report Abuse

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Posted by Sslee > Sep 2, 2018 07:58 AM | Report Abuse
Dear KCChong,
I look into quarter report of HRC and Lionind. I think at most we can try to calculate/predict the operation profit. What is very difficult to predict is others losses sometime I suspect the management is playing with the account.
I really sympathy with OTB despite his hard working and doing a lot of research the quarter result remain unpredictable.
Thank you


All profits, whether operating or net profits are difficult to predict. It is difficult for retail investors, it is also difficult for professional analysts who have all the data, talk to management etc. Even it is difficult for management to predict.

Management can and often manage profit, but normally to make it good, rather than the other way around.

That is the theme of this article.

Ans :
I do not really care people attack me because my prediction is wrong.
If they are so good, they should try to do it themselves and see what is the degree of accuracy.

As long I do my research, I try my very best, the prediction is still wrong. That is nothing much I can do since I had tried my very best.
I sleep well and I do not fell bad as long as I do not cheat anyone.
In this world, no 100% sure win in stock market.
Likewise on net profit prediction.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-02 23:42 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-03 01:39 | Report Abuse

u know what is the most dangerous?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-03 01:51 | Report Abuse

this stock pusher sure can rationalise any thing

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-03 01:52 | Report Abuse

and no need critical thinking skills some more

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-09-03 02:01 | Report Abuse

it's not a stock pusher job to talk about risks and uncertainties

Posted by Sslee > 2018-09-03 08:59 | Report Abuse

Dear KCChong and OTB,
Missing one or two prediction of quarterly result did not alter the big picture as long as the Fundamental analysis on the rolling few quarters and a keen eye on the world market, supply and demand, words price trend and etc remain positive.

Dear qqq3,
qqq3: posman dare not....get scolding.
01/09/2018 18:41
So got scolding from Mr. Koon or Not?
Thank you

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 09:18 | Report Abuse

Sslee,

What is sifu?

Sifu is the one busy proving you are wrong I am right


What is sifu?

You want to fight me? Come! Come¡


Where is sifu enthusiasm to share their valuable knowledge?

Why should i? I don't owe you anything.

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 09:48 | Report Abuse

Poking old man too hard, already merajuk. This is the end result. Blood flow like Yangtse river. No body gain...

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-09-03 10:08 | Report Abuse

Posted by yewyin33 > Sep 3, 2018 06:17 AM | Report Abuse

I often see qqq3 attacking Ooi Teik Bee. I am sure OTB also hates qqq3 as much.
Unless qqq3 changes his attitude, he will remain poor.

I strongly recommend them to read "How to win friends and influence people" by Dale Carnegie. Besides the Holy Bible, it has printed and re-printed the most copies in the world. Many years ago, when I was managing Mudajaya and IJM Corporation I always give out this book to all my staff. Koon Yew Yin

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 10:17 | Report Abuse

Dear qqq3,

you will be more successful if you follow what uncle said
I respect uncle because he his willing to share ,
right or wrong never mind .
there is always something to learn.

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 10:24 | Report Abuse

who flagged me ?

am I not telling the true .

OTB , you are a good man

I support you.

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 10:37 | Report Abuse

Get to know OTB for about a year. Yes he is good man and responsible person... however due to his 'coverage', he might have hurt many new comer and/or small fishes ..

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 10:46 | Report Abuse

ken,

he can be better if he talk less about his past glory

he is not aware, emphasis on past glory invite jealousy and people set high expectation on you , when you can not meet their expectation , they will start to prove you wrong , not as great as you have claaim

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 10:56 | Report Abuse

Ahseng,
Yes, stock market bull since april 2009.. anyone buy some stock in 2009 and hold could have earn some money... for example most blue counter Maybank... I estimate appreciated more than 300% (include div) since April 2009... mean earn abt 30% each year.

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 10:57 | Report Abuse

if you have a slightest understanding of psychology

when someone willing to say " I am willing to compensate your loss, if it isme who have cheated you "

then you will most probably agree with me than uncle's intention is genuine. not to cheat you or mislead you

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 11:03 | Report Abuse

But he can't compensate everyone being misleaded..

My conclusion is if you are 'public figure' you need to speak with care.. can easily mislead someone due to the coverage is too wide. The level of understanding is very uneven between big fish, shark and small fish and bilis..

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 11:09 | Report Abuse

yes, I agree he is a public figure

but he is also an old man with big ego

he is not a politician, he doesn't know how to protect himself

he is too honest

he still have a lot to learn from many great sifu in the market

who eat you up quietly , yet you still respect him like God

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 11:10 | Report Abuse

Uncle Koon is still a good old man in my eye

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 11:16 | Report Abuse

I see your point and fully understand..

I active in i3 for about 18 months only. I learn a lot, NOT FA, TA, buy good shares etc.. but human behavior..

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 11:18 | Report Abuse

it is ok to prove him inconsistent or wrong in his recommendation like what many sifu have already done . but it is definitely unbecoming to label him con-koon.
Moreover his recommendation is actually the hard work of his advisor whom he has paid a few thousand ringgit for the work

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 11:23 | Report Abuse

do you find any great sifu willing to share with you sincerely in i3 nowadays?

practically none. they are more interested in their subscription business.

anything wrong ?

nothing wrong .

in fact very good .

because money can buy their sincerity

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 11:24 | Report Abuse

I agree, one may criticize him and point out his mistake, but labeling him Conman is very unreasonable..

Posted by Halite > 2018-09-03 11:30 | Report Abuse

what is the difference in i3 now and 3 or 4 years ago?

a lot of good writing sharing of good knowledge

now?

more self promotion than sincere sharing

Posted by ken > 2018-09-03 12:08 | Report Abuse

More than half of the i3 postings are scolding each other, labeling each other, create fake info/news..etc .... but not too bad there are still a little knowledge sharing and construction discussion..

Posted by vvcb > 2018-09-07 16:43 | Report Abuse

To kcchongnz - thanks for a good write-up on Jerry's "Open Letters". Please keep on sharing.