Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-05 15:30 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
kc
what I don't like about your approach to stock market is you like to teach people to look for low quality but "cheap" stuffs.
I think most people are better served if they stick to good quality stuffs.

How do you look at Jaks and Sendai; these two stocks you have been asking people to sailang and margin.

Are they good quality stuff, and why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-05 16:32 | Report Abuse

Jaks and Sendai are the main investments of kyy in last 2 years....He is a businessman and risk taker...( he says so himself)...


stockmarket.....stockmarket rewards those who assume the business and market risks and later proven right....he says he is willing to take those business risks , including implementation risks and expect to be well reward later.....follow or not is your own decision, nothing to do with businessman KYY.

ps...presently I have Sendai...I like to ambush shares and this is a good time and price to ambush Sendai. Sendai operates in Middle East and with current oil price, Middle East is swimming in cash. This is party time in Middle East. Management got 70% of the shares, I only a little bit....I don't mind. Some more, the sale of lift boat will be reflected in next report and will show significant improvements in Balance Sheet as well as revenue and profits.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-05 16:36 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 04:22 PM | Report Abuse
Jaks and Sendai are the main investments of kyy in last 2 years....He is a businessman and risk taker...( he says so himself)...


When I discuss in i3investor, I talk about issues, not personality.

Why the hell you always pull out someone else name? To boast your image?

You said this,

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
kc
what I don't like about your approach to stock market is you like to teach people to look for low quality but "cheap" stuffs.
I think most people are better served if they stick to good quality stuffs.


I asked you,

Posted by kcchongnz > Oct 5, 2018 03:30 PM | Report Abuse X
How do you look at Jaks and Sendai; these two stocks you have been asking people to sailang and margin.
Are they good quality stuff, and why?


Can't you ever talk straight to the point?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-05 16:40 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 12:52 AM | Report Abuse
Good stuffs are never cheap, cheap stuffs are seldom good, unless it is in the middle of a severe bear market.
I think is a good motto to follow......At least then , there is a focus on getting stuffs of higher quality.

Tell us which are the "good stuffs" you have purchased? Sendai, Jaks, Vitrox, Elsoft? What else?

When did you purchase them, and at what prices?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-05 16:43 | Report Abuse

me? I am trader, I buy any stuff....as long as I think I can money based solely on timing considerations........my answers very comprehensive one...........

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 01:02 AM | Report Abuse X

The above 2 posts presupposes we are talking about investments and holdings of at least 12 months or even longer.

The shorter the intended holding period, the more rubbishy stuffs we can put into the portfolio, I guess.

I may even consider putting some of your rubbishy recommendations if the intended holding period is short enough..............if the intended holding period is short enough, then it is all about timing considerations.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-05 16:57 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 04:43 PM | Report Abuse
me? I am trader, I buy any stuff....as long as I think I can money based solely on timing considerations........my answers very comprehensive one...........

You know what? So far I have been sparring with you. You condemned value investing, condemn TA, FA. But you never even once substantiate it.

I asked you questions, you have never directly answered anyone of them intelligently.

I have written many articles on value investing. You didn't even read them and start to condemn. I tell you what it is, and you just talk about what is totally different from what I wrote. I showed you evidences from every where,and even my own established and verifiable records in i3investor, I doubt you even read them. And you start to condemn again, and again, and talk rubbish.

You only think your BS, I mean bullshit can work. But you can't articulate even once how you BS works.

What can I say about you?

Shall I continue to waste time on you?

No lah, I was having fun too.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-05 17:38 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-06 09:53 | Report Abuse

and how about....

bull market, ignorance and arrogance can make lots of money
bear market, same characteristics lose a lot of money.

Posted by Zhuge_Liang > 2018-10-06 10:11 | Report Abuse

Make a lot of money in stock market is called Sifu.
Make peanut and making a lot noise to get attention is not a sifu, but a bullshit.

Posted by BN_menang > 2018-10-06 11:22 | Report Abuse

Talk 3 talk 4. Actually stock market is worse under PH true or not?

Posted by stockraider > 2018-10-06 11:45 | Report Abuse

Yes...PH performance for stockmkt not as good as BN....bcos PH more transparent mah....!!

If BN they hide & curi from u....if bad news out....habis lah....stockmkt mah.......!!

Conclusion; PH is more sustainable loh.....!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-06 15:33 |

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-06 16:16 | Report Abuse

Softbank....during the dot com burst, Softbank shares drop by 90%....of course today very successful....

stock market....talk no use,,,dive in and enjoy.

Posted by boonwei98 > 2018-10-06 19:22 | Report Abuse

It is obvious that KC is process oriented and qqq is result oriented. Both are totally opposite. So there is really no point to keep arguing. Others should decide if you are process oriented then follow kc guidance and those that believe result is everything follow qqq.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-06 19:36 | Report Abuse

Dr M: Quarreling with Najib kept my brain active

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEStm53lOWg

I support

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-06 22:48 | Report Abuse

boon

quoting guailo is not process

it is hanging a flag....

2 problems...

- KLSE is not Wall Street

- in Wall Street, very few retail picking stocks.


in the land B Graham and wallen Bufalo, retailers have given up stock picking.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-07 22:07 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 5, 2018 12:31 AM | Report Abuse
kc
what I don't like about your approach to stock market is you like to teach people to look for low quality but "cheap" stuffs.

ME: I HAVE A TOTAL OF 339 ARTICLES IN I3INVESTOR NOW. TELL ME WHICH POST I TEACH PEOPLE TO LOOK FOR LOW QUALITY STUFF?

I think most people are better served if they stick to good quality stuffs.

ME: TELL ME WHY DO YOU CONSIDER SENDAI AND JAKS AS GOOD QUALITY STUFF?

true, what I say about you.


People like u...always only like to talk about valuations, valuation this valuation that, as if stock market can be so easily valued, people like you will only land up with low quality stuffs.

ME: WHICH STOCK OF MINE IS A "LOW QUALITY STUFF" AND WHY?

intrinsic value....margin of safety......lol.....The more you talk about intrinsic value and margin of safety....the more likely your portfolio is full of low quality stuffs ..........................

ME: TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT INTRINSIC VALUE AND MARGIN OF SAFETY? HOW ARE THEY RELATED TO "LOW QUALITY STUFF"?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 18:09 | Report Abuse

kc

all the value investors and their intrinsic values and margin of safety all die in 2018 already.....MMC, plenty of intrinsic value and margin of safety, most of the property stocks large discounts to NTA, steel stocks very low PE, ...I don't think u or anyone purposely choose low quality shares.....but the more u talk about intrinsic value and margin of safety, the more likely your whole portfolio full of low quality stuffs. Its called options, choices and focus.


the only people still active, still healthy are those investors in quality, in long term growth, with great business sense and great management quality such as Vitrox, Penta, the ATEs and the EMSs, Serba and Dialog in OG, qL in consumers...one year already.....the market is chasing quality as it should....it is the market working.


aiyoyo.....I talk about it for one year already......and the market trend follows my suggestion.......

now talk also no use, all retail value investors die already...for your students and potential students....a bigger test yet.....


""""trade wars like boiling a frog.....there was a time, the intense trade war between US-China would have freaked out the market....but like boiling a frog, the market seems to have adjusted to it.....but boiling a frog is still boiling a frog and the frog still dies at the end, whether the frog jumps or not........I just feel the whole world is like boiling a frog experience.....and no confidence in American politics.""""""

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 20:54 | Report Abuse

value investors have held on to MMC from $ 2.50 to $ 1.10....half the value gone already...Pity value investors.

value is not the best way to approach the stock market.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 20:57 | Report Abuse

Analysts favorite Gamuda from $ 5.50 to $ 2.40..analysts favorite is also not the best way to approach the stock market.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 21:00 | Report Abuse

P metal....I like P Metal......This is the best way to approach the stock market.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 21:02 | Report Abuse

P Metal, Sendai, Serba...these are smart ways to approach stock market.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 21:35 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 09:02 PM | Report Abuse
P Metal, Sendai, Serba...these are smart ways to approach stock market.


P. Metal, Serba? Just because their share prices went up recently? Why? But did you see it coming a few months ago?

Sendai? Why also?

You called for sailang with margin finance a year ago at RM1.30+. How much is it now? Lost > 40% already, even haven't consider margin.

How?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 21:43 | Report Abuse

Sendai is very good to me...I am sitting on 15% profits, not selling yet until I come back from holidays.

Pmetal and Serba.....any drop just buy la.....sure make money one if keep long enough.......

not talking about horse before cannon but talking about the future.......

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 21:58 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 09:43 PM | Report Abuse
Sendai is very good to me...I am sitting on 15% profits, not selling yet until I come back from holidays.
Pmetal and Serba.....any drop just buy la.....sure make money one if keep long enough.......
not talking about horse before cannon but talking about the future.......

When you were actively promoting Sendai and Jaks a year ago when they were trading at RM1.30+ and RM1.50+, weren't you talking about the future then?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:08 | Report Abuse

Sendai and Jaks so happens to be two of my most profitable counters for 2017/2018........

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:16 | Report Abuse

kc....can I add you are in the wrong coaching business.

Check out this story: Why Business Coaching Is Booming http://flip.it/waa5zT from Flipboard.


Business coaching is booming.....stock market coaching , leave it to those with Jho Low DNA........

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 22:17 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 10:08 PM | Report Abuse
Sendai and Jaks so happens to be two of my most profitable counters for 2017/2018........


Now I know why. All following your sailang and margin lost their life saving in Jaks and Sendai, and you were the one making from them by asking them to sailang and margin at very high prices and you dumped to them?

Indeed smart fellow you are. Congrats.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:19 | Report Abuse

I never did any thing dishonest....but also I cannot be expected to post I sold......

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 22:28 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 10:19 PM | Report Abuse
I never did any thing dishonest....but also I cannot be expected to post I sold......


This was what you have done; asking everyone here to use margin finance to sailang Jaks and Sendai when they were trading at >RM1.50 and RM1.30 respectively. Those who followed your calls, which was made relentlessly for the last one year, and caused them to lose more than 80% with 50% margin.

Is this an act of great service to the public?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:34 | Report Abuse

I sell also take risk one.....what if it goes up after I sell?

actually my own track record on selling not very good one.....majority of times, shares I sell go up one...


I am more accurate in buying than in selling........

Posted by Sslee > 2018-10-08 22:51 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
Hoping Mr. Koon realise now that qqq3 is taking advantage on him all this while on JAKS and SENDAI to make his million.
Thank you.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:56 | Report Abuse

what is stock market if not dealing with uncertainties?


but neither I nor Kyy ever post with dishonesty.......

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 22:57 | Report Abuse

sslee....KYY knows full well I am a small time trader......


I am just a trader......

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 23:08 | Report Abuse

I am such a trader I can even make money from Lion Industry .....can u imagine that?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 23:17 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 11:08 PM | Report Abuse
I am such a trader I can even make money from Lion Industry .....can u imagine that?


So have you understood what you read in Nasim Taleb's book you always recite without knowing what it is about?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 23:30 | Report Abuse

well....It so happens to be true I recently make some money in LionInd.......why cannot meh?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 23:35 | Report Abuse

Taleb says he makes money from Black Swan events.....KLSE don't have that kind of sophistication and instruments...I can only make money by selling higher than my cost......

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-08 23:42 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 11:35 PM | Report Abuse
Taleb says he makes money from Black Swan events.....KLSE don't have that kind of sophistication and instruments...I can only make money by selling higher than my cost......


Well, it looks like you really don't know what you read, but just reciting it everywhere without knowing what the meaning conveyed.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-08 23:46 | Report Abuse

Fooled by Randomness is a great book....One of the best out there................

The main take away....only those with Jho Low DNA wants to be a stock market coach......

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-09 07:36 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 8, 2018 10:57 PM | Report Abuse
sslee....KYY knows full well I am a small time trader......
I am just a trader......


So how to fulfill your ultimate financial goal of become a two hundred millionaire in 20 years time?

Posted by Sslee > 2018-10-09 08:49 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
I miss stockmanmy, at least he was ambitious, he worship super-investor, promote margin finance, Sialang, X factors and make clear that he intend to win big (100-300%) and to drive a Roll Royce, own yacht and be as rich as KYY. He is arrogant, pretend himself as super-investor, big shot, bet big, calling people opposing his views stupid, idiot, coward and etc but with no result to show except PLP and thus incurred everyone wrath, red flagged by many and now laying low in i3.

This qqq3 equally arrogant, unprincipled, covetous using the dirtiest of the dirty means trying to smear Sifu OTB, KCChong and PLP KYY but after being exposed as only invest in thousand rather than in million, his ball shrink, forced to eat humble pie and admit that he is just a small trader trying to cari makan and curi ayam from KYY and OTB stock recommendation. Unashamedly he still act as though he is a very successful unconventional investment guru talk big, talk 3, talk 4, talk bad on FA, TA, value investing, talking cock, bull-shitting and called himself result oriented and promote his idea on investment timing/trading and flexibility. By now everyone can see that qqq3 is nothing but a pure parasite, PLP king and sucking up to the boss at the same time sucking blood from the boss/hosts (deceit others even his own master) just to make a quick few cents profit by timing his buying and selling (Flexibility theory). What a great idea to make an easy living? Hope CP Teh does pick up some flexibility theory from qqq3 and profited from it too.

Thank you

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 08:52 | Report Abuse

ed by kcchongnz > Oct 9, 2018 07:36 AM | Report Abuse

So how to fulfill your ultimate financial goal of become a two hundred millionaire in 20 years time?
==========

at the rate my account is growing, shouldn't be a problem....

Posted by soojinhou > 2018-10-09 09:00 | Report Abuse

Sslee, stocknanny = qqq3

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 13:41 | Report Abuse

sslee...told u already...stock market not for you.....and AGMs are games people play, not some thing to take seriously.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 13:57 | Report Abuse

kc...u did not read the book the properly if u missed the part that says the author specialise in buying put warrants....losing small amounts on a regular basis and making a killing when black swans strike........that is his 9 to 5 job......

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-10-09 15:08 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Oct 9, 2018 01:57 PM | Report Abuse
kc...u did not read the book the properly if u missed the part that says the author specialise in buying put warrants....losing small amounts on a regular basis and making a killing when black swans strike........that is his 9 to 5 job......


Nasim Taleb is a university professor teaching financial engineering, dynamic hedging and so on. He is not a trader of put warrants. He bought some put warrants for those stocks involving subprime bundled mortgages during those time, as a past time.

But he wrote about the above in his book, the "Black Swan", and not in the book "fooled by Randomness" which you recite frequently.

I was taking about you being fooled by your bloody own randomness making a few sens punting here and there in some stocks, purely by luck, and you thought you are bloody good. OMG!

This is the book "Fooled by randomness" we are talking about.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 15:40 | Report Abuse

Nassim Nicholas Taleb is a Lebanese–American essayist, scholar, statistician, and former trader and risk analyst, whose work focuses on problems of randomness, probability, and uncertainty. Wikipedia...the book described his experience.........

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 15:55 | Report Abuse

kc

jokes aside.....your methodology don't work, have not for at least a year.......one day, it may work again.....but your students no such patience.....in mean time, high risk of rotten eggs in your face.....got your insurance already or not?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-10-09 16:03 | Report Abuse

take my advice....business coach better.....business coach is having boom time. ...

stock market coach making a living teaching others to buy and sell stuffs is for those with Jho Low DNA....

and maybe an even better stock picker.....with better business sense from a business coach........