if any citizen of any SEA nation prefer to side with China against their own SEA nation of current domicile on SCS issue, then they should start seriously considering giving up their current citizenship
If u read Western history, one of the main reason China fell to Communist in 1949 is bcos Usa did not wholeheartedly help China during the civil war loh...!!
But if u look into the korean & Indo china war...usa whole heartedly help...but still the USA & allies still lose in the end in the war loh!
The main reason USA lost the war...bcos Korean & Indochina war should not be USA wars mah....they just kepoh to fight....thus when casualties are high....they have no balls...thus runaway mah!
The samething will happen, if they fight a war with China on Taiwan loh!
This kwailoh...where got balls to fight one leh ?
Posted by WealthSoWonderful > Jun 19, 2021 2:54 PM | Report Abuse
Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 19, 2021 1:24 AM | Report Abuse
Asia is for Asian and America has to withdraw from Asia and allow taiwan to rejoin China.... that is inevitable.
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you & other guys like you seem to have big trouble dealing with reality
it's not about US allowing or not allowing Taiwan to rejoin China
it's about Taiwan people themselves wanting or not wanting to join China
Taiwan the right strategic approach is to surrender to China & to negotiate with China for a favorable term in order to operate like a SAR like Hk & Macau for at least the next 200 years loh!
Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 19, 2021 3:21 PM | Report Abuse
Taiwan... no Taiwan issue, less stress in the world surely better for the world.... Taiwan is unfinished business for the CCP and will be finished in the long term
Why argue ? When war start , just buy Gold and invest in Gold counters. Make kaw kaw money . Don forget when you are broke, nobody on this planet will welcome you... :}. War is politicians' games !
China will have ability to manufacure gold artificially in the next 10 years mah!
Do not simply invest in too much gold loh!
Posted by Trump2021 > Jun 19, 2021 3:28 PM | Report Abuse
Why argue ? When war start , just buy Gold and invest in Gold counters. Make kaw kaw money . Don forget when you are broke, nobody on this planet will welcome you... :}. War is politicians' games !
Posted by stockraider > Jun 19, 2021 3:32 PM | Report Abuse
This fellow look like so0hai... & have very low mentality loh...like katak di bawah tempurung , if he talk like this loh!
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if you run out of ammo for arguing back, you should not resort to your usual cheapskate s00hai way of insulting or namecalling someone, that is the s00hai way
Posted by stockraider > Jun 19, 2021 3:32 PM | Report Abuse
This fellow look like so0hai... & have very low mentality loh...like katak di bawah tempurung , if he talk like this loh!
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if you run out of ammo for arguing back, you should not resort to your usual cheapskate s00hai way of insulting or namecalling someone, that is the s00hai way
Most likely china will take back Taiwan without firing a single shoot bcos Taiwan will surrender mah!
Its real mah...next 10 years taiwan sure habis mah!
Unless Taiwan surrender & negotiate with China loh! If taiwan negotiate with China it will get a good deal loh!
"Taiwan the right strategic approach is to surrender to China & to negotiate with China for a favorable term in order to operate like a SAR like Hk & Macau for at least the next 200 years loh"!
Thats why Usa panic now loh!
Posted by COVID18NOT19 > Jun 19, 2021 10:54 PM | Report Abuse
CHINA has been busy building warships for years .IT should take back TAIWAN in 10 years or much much earlier.
Posted by stockraider > Jun 19, 2021 3:32 PM | Report Abuse
This fellow look like so0hai... & have very low mentality loh...like katak di bawah tempurung , if he talk like this loh!
*******
if you run out of ammo for arguing back, you should not resort to your usual cheapskate s00hai way of insulting or namecalling someone, that is the s00hai way
Posted by supersaiyan3 > Jun 20, 2021 12:03 PM | Report Abuse
If China wants to be in harmony with the world, stop what they are doing in HK. Stop striping people in the middle of the street, stop beating people after they are arrested, stop dq the opposition, stop arresting media people.
If China wants to be in harmony with the world, stop sending troops oversea, stop disobeying international ruling, stop cheating, stop stealing, catch those broke the law including Xi himself.
A young man was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment for disclosing Xi's daughter's picture on the net. It's so extreme that not even Putin will do that.
XinJiang!!!! Imagine if 20 Cantonese are terrorist and 10 million of Canton citizen being held at detention camp, that's rediculous. But all these China Stockholm syndrome victim are thinking that's ok. that's not ok? Go see a doctor.
China today are like Germany in 1940. We are all at risk here. If we do not suppress China today there will be war.
We can reduce the risk by stating the facts, and express our will to fight it. Those Stockholm syndrome victims, history shall not forgive you.
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bloddy right, dude, well done
keep up da good forthright posting, mate
just too many hardcore China fanboys/fangirls club gang guys going around all over the bloddy place, these days
Posted by cyeec2000 > Jun 20, 2021 1:00 PM | Report Abuse
https://youtu.be/ojCjZQQHRX0 If you looked at the link above you will doubt that its from china, but its new York. There is some people said china men thought zhu guo is best but didn't move back to china,.their body is honest than mind thinking. I don't think china ppl are allowed to be trade like that in china. Carrie lam children is studying in US, why not study in china?a lot of china companies listed in US, why china is not good to be listed?
Posted by haridassa > Jun 19, 2021 9:36 PM | Report Abuse
Suppression, can't voice out and shooting to death innocent people is a norm in China. Oh yes bullying small countries too...like Malaysia and South East Asian countries.
So many disinformation, so many half truth, so many outright lies, so many think they know plenty, but actually know nothing, so many quotes all kinds of propaganda, so many think propaganda are truth, so many takes side, oblivion to the danger it may arise. Wiping off nation, wiping off lives
it is like being fooled by a used car sales man, buying a defunct vehicle, and feel proud of it, going around showing off. praising the used car sales man.....that vehicle may just take your whole family to HOLLAND.
IF US and China end up fighting, it will be a proxy war, both are not keen to fight that war in their backyard, with the weapons they have, any war fought on their soil will involve nuclear arms, so matter how, initially, it will be on other's soil. USA nuked Japan, and suggested to nuke China in the 50s ( turned down by Chiang Kai Shek), so when there is an intent, the devilish nature will resurface.
Neighbouring countries that unfortunately gotten involved will mean destructions and annihilation. Be it Japan, Taiwan, India, or Australia .
I really cannot understand Japan. Unlike Germany, Japan has never tender an unreserved apology for war crime committed during Sino-Japan and world war II. And now Japan still has the audacity to meddle in China internal affair on Taiwan issue and joint with US to slander China.
Posted by winterwolf > Jun 14, 2021 12:40 PM | Report Abuse
Not going to argue with you as most facts are available on internet nowadays. Twisted minds tend to come up with twisted logic, ignoring all factual events free willingly.
Historically the only time a power in China invaded other territories were in the Yuan Dynanty, The Moguls. The ancestor of the present Mongolian ( not the Han ). All these places you mentioned, Xinjiang, Taiwan, Tibet were all peripheral territories that flip in and out as territories of China through historical time. It was mostly uninhabitable landmass that lacks basic requirement like water supply and fertile soil for cultivation. Life is harsh and the few residents still need to put up with hordes of invaders that kill and rob. It was the Qing Dynasty (AD 1644 – 1912) military that accorded the protection required and these were officially sanctioned as the Dynasty territory. Xinjiang were already part of China in the Han Dynasty (206 BC – AD 220), just for your information, outposts that were built still there till today.
Japan attacked and occupied Manchuria in 1931, waged a full fledge war with China from 1937, 4 years before USA joined the fray in 1941.
"In 1935 the Chinese government put out a map titled "Map of Chinese Islands in the South China Sea" this map had eleven dashes on it. In 1949 the Chinese government dropped their claim of the Gulf of Tonkin and the now infamous nine-dash line was created. "
After WW2 in 1945, this claim was recognized by the western powers, especially UK and USA, and all other contesting countries now, unfortunately, were just various colonialist territories that do not have any interest in it at the time.
Atlas printed and used in schools in Malaysia during the 1970s even has clear print out who owns these islands in the South China Sea.
After WW2, 1945, Japan was also forced to return Taiwan which they colonized since 1895, to the Nationalist China at the time. In another word, it tells you who own the Taiwan Island. Thereafter, the Nationalist Government of China lost in internal power struggle to the Communist Regime and fled to the Taiwan Island in 1949. It was the anti communism sentiment of the time that the nine dash line and Taiwan becomes a dispute when the western government refuses till today to recognize the claim that they once agreed upon.
From 1949 till 1972, USA sanctioned China by imposing embargoes on everything China.
As far as Vietnam is concern, the relationship with China is a complex one. You can google it yourself. If China wanted to occupy it, the Communist China would have conquered it in the 1979-1990 conflict.
The above are all verifiable facts. So, who is twisting facts for own convenience ?
I think your 2000 over comments are garbage stew that fermented for far too long. Brain surgeon may find it challenging to find any gray mass left up there.
Please stop your " accusations, then hope it will stick mindset", those old tactics uses by American does not work on people who has even an iota of intelligence and also in these digital age where all kinds of information can be counter check and verify. Certain politicians in Malaysia are very fond of these, even dragging an accused to court over multiple times, over many years but always found not guilty. Are you one of those ?
WealthSoWonderful > Jun 20, 2021 9:45 PM | Report Abuse
What about the war crimes & atrocities that China has committed in Tibet, Yunnan, Xinjiang, Mongolia, Manchuria etc.
For the ccp fans are weird the history parts like korea war, vietnam war and tibet war they choose to ignore. They also talk like they are in driving seat able to influence the world, can able to influence Europe Union, China, US. I think most important what they have to do is dreaming in night and asking mao what to do. Perhaps Mao would say fast to back to china, donating your wealth asset to party and joining air force invade taiwan and conquer the world.
correctloh MA should be able to get 200 years based on HK formula of SARS......but too bad....the west play dirty entice & manipulated the corrupted..Taiwan politicians to act against its own best interest loh!
Posted by qqq3333 > Jun 21, 2021 11:38 AM | Report Abuse
Lee kuan yew advised MA of Taiwan to negotiate with China. the earlier they negotiate the better the terms they get from China.... but MA is on his way out and Chai went another way.
Posted by cyeec2000 > Jun 21, 2021 8:35 AM | Report Abuse
For the ccp fans are weird the history parts like korea war, vietnam war and tibet war they choose to ignore. They also talk like they are in driving seat able to influence the world, can able to influence Europe Union, China, US. I think most important what they have to do is dreaming in night and asking mao what to do. Perhaps Mao would say fast to back to china, donating your wealth asset to party and joining air force invade taiwan and conquer the world.
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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-17 19:15 | Report Abuse
China no need to tembak old junked like Ronald Reagan mah!
If war ever started, china 10,000 very powerful AI drones packed with high explosives will swamped the carrier & sunk it loh!
Then the USA war mongers & supporters will cry like babies loh!
Posted by GoldenHarvest1 > Jun 17, 2021 5:27 PM | Report Abuse
come la China, lai lai la, come tembak USS Ronald Reagan la