Icon8888 james am I making sense ? 24/04/2014 23:37
tan1868 Do not discount the impact of malls oversupply in Klang valley. My personal view is to take profits whenever we can when property stock surge during current trend. Risk may rise in longer term. just my 2 sen. 25/04/2014 00:32
optimus7 how about when everything is completion the country is having a serious recession? dont just look at the perfect scenerio. think also on downside lo. if u have gone tru the 80's recession, or the 90's recession and u happened to b a property developer u would know what i mean.
@ laughdieme77, my average entry price = RM1.07. What is your take? Live with this flushing? Few options ahead: Option 1: Exploit this market to average down...then, when the rights issue come, hope the market price at rights issue is higher than the new (lower) average price. Take note i have no more bullets left. The ONLY way to free up capital is by selling off a portion of the mother share and then subscribe to the rights issue. This can only work if the market price during rights issue will be more than the average price.
average down is actually a very risky move. I burnt the most when i do averaging down. Its very different concept from holding on although it might look as if its the same strategy. I kind of like this stock but the US correction just started actually, and its going to be tough. No matter how good it is, the price will be pressed hard. Remember, it climbed from RM0.50 to RM1.16 in 1 year ! its like double up...
it will be a joke if the rights issue is hold now...for those who buy at more than RM1.00, it means subscribe and you still lose money and if you don't subscribe, you will still lose money~!!! Majority maybe unwilling to subscribe and this is bad for management because they are unable to fill up their coffers with the rights proceeds.
see,,,,if you and me are unwilling to subscribe, then the question now is will they postpone the rights issue? Don't forget...management needs the monies from the rights issue to beef up their coffers.
kancs3118, the silver lining to all this carnage is that the rights price will be at a discount to the last reported price and the warrants also have a lower exercise price. More upside in the future if you ask me.
Well, it is going to be a short term pain for you but if you intend to subscribe the rights, you now need less money compared to when the share price was > RM1. I doubt they will postpone the rights because they may need it for DaMen.
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@ laughdieme77, my average entry price = RM1.07. What is your take? Live with this flushing? Few options ahead: Option 1: Exploit this market to average down...then, when the rights issue come, hope the market price at rights issue is higher than the new (lower) average price. Take note i have no more bullets left. The ONLY way to free up capital is by selling off a portion of the mother share and then subscribe to the rights issue. This can only work if the market price during rights issue will be more than the average price.
Option 2: Do nothing.
kancs, if u have a lot of money to average down, feel free to do some, someday it will go up again. but donno when.
if u need the money in near term, u better lightened up bcos Uncle Bear is here to stay.
Hi James70, i maybe abit slow...just asking, where is the discount brought about by this carnage?
The lowest the rights can go is RM0.50 per share because the par value of the share is RM0.50. That means my theoretical ex-rights price is (RM1.07+RM0.50)/2 = RM0.79.
Hence, if the market price before rights is at RM0.75, the theoretical market ex-rights price is at RM0.63.
The loss you have made is in paper unless you sell. If they put the rights at 50c, you need to fork out only 50c/share vs RM1/share since the previous prices which were hovering > RM1 for many months.
Hi James70, just a quick question. How much do you think they are going to priced the free warrants? Looking to close the gap on the RM0.16 per share losses...
is there any warrant valuation model that you can share with me?
this is a fail project...summit there is freaking jam...soho charges commercial rates for utilities...those ppl practically paying hotel rooms space with housing prices...dumb haha
Back in Mar28, I wrote the following on the GOB forum:
GOB also owns some land at Seri Kembangan. The 2 larger ones are at 52 and 56 acres with a book value of only RM3.34 and RM17.35 per sqft respectively. If you recall, Eksons recently concluded a sale of a 14.64acre parcel for RM140.27mil (or RM220/sqft). The land sold is within the vicinity of the GOB land. If those 2 parcels are revalued or sold at RM50/sqft, GOB is further valued at RM1.03/share. What if it is RM200/sqft? You do the math.
They did very well by selling a portion of the land (15.56acres) for RM142.35M which works out to RM210/sqft. Now they have a remainder of 92.4acres which if going by the latest market rate should be worth around RM845.2M or RM3.72/share. Not forgetting the other irons in the fire namely the DaMen, Batu Kawan and Lembaga Getah JV.
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Posted by laughdieme77 > 2014-10-15 01:59 | Report Abuse
kancs,. suggest u re-read the iconbro part1 to part8 to regain confidence.