Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-18 12:14 | Report Abuse

haha... sxckperformer ownself no-balls but accused ppl no balls...

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/5101.jsp

coward sxckperformer, when will u take up my challenge?
If not, publicly APOLOGIZE to me for slandering my reputation!!!

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-18 12:15 | Report Abuse

Evergreen5101, pls reveal his real name if you know... haha...
i agree with you, there are 2 possible scenarios here:

1) Either he bought evergreen during its peak (stuck now)
2) or he wanted to talk down evergreen so that he can buy cheaper..

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-18 12:16 | Report Abuse

Raider, this sxckperformer really a con-man and likes to lie/create story to accuse ppl...

even his statements/info provided is half-true, without telling the whole story of evergreen financial situation... in fact, i have proven him wrong with my explanation on all his false accusations..

low life sxckperformer... just fark off plz....

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-18 15:00 | Report Abuse

Why Dolly has no balls to write using own ID but multiple ID? That is because I proved that how easy it is to fake any pics as proof. Continue to write nonsense.

This is edited by Dolly_chai:
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This is edited by me:
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Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-18 15:02 | Report Abuse

Hevea's financial position is so strong & I have Hevea so why would I bought Evergreen which has amassed giant RM 200m++ of debts? Joker LOL

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-18 15:20 | Report Abuse

The share price is a reflection of it's fundamentals. Hevea has NO GEARING & in NET CASH of RM 43.278m currently while Evergreen is in net debts of RM 238.501m

238.501m / 43.278m = 5.5 times

WOW Hevea holds real hard cash and Evergreen has 5.5 times the DEBTS of Hevea's cash holdings. Big difference right there. How many quarters are needed for Evergreen to earn and payback the debts? Hevea keeps adding up it's cash-pile. Interesting revelation? Haha!

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 15:24 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockraider > Jan 18, 2017 03:23 PM | Report Abuse X

THE BIG DIFF HEVEA IS A CON COUNTER AND EVERGREEN IS NOT LOH...!!
THATS WHY HEVEA COMING DOWN AND COLLAPSING LOH...!!

Posted by nocindycat > 2017-01-18 15:51 | Report Abuse

stockraider aka saltedfish LOL aka robertl

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-18 15:57 | Report Abuse

He is stuck in Evergreen and dare not even mention it's mountains of DEBTS RM 200m++ LOL.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 15:57 | Report Abuse

Hevea...after they start build factory...take all your cash and borrow alots of monies...leaving the minority investor become salt fish loh...!!

Posted by younginvestor92 > 2017-01-18 16:00 | Report Abuse

NEVER SEE THAT SALTED FISH FOR A LONG TIME AFTER I MAKE AROUND 40% GAIN lol

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-18 16:05 | Report Abuse

stockraider is a loser. I can understand his frustration. LOL

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 16:08 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Farge168 > 2017-01-18 16:13 | Report Abuse

Start buying,buy bit by bit,collect at cheap price,then keep,don't sell if continue to drop until price finally reach 1.57 and above,sure win formula.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 16:21 | Report Abuse

hamyee...still want to collect meh ?

Posted by Farge168 > 2017-01-18 16:29 | Report Abuse

The more it drops,the better profit we'll get,key word is patience and don't give up,don't sell until price rebounds to 1.57 and above

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 16:31 | Report Abuse

Share drop for some reasons mah....!!
Despite hevea so much promotion still drop...u know loh...hamyee coming loh....!!

Posted by Farge168 > 2017-01-18 16:33 | Report Abuse

Don't sell,just buy,let it drops,drop without any negative news,time to collect,don't follow the operators's move,let them slam down the price.

Posted by stockistlearner > 2017-01-18 16:36 | Report Abuse

today hevea is the 'best' performing counter among the furniture makers...
i will try some at 1.45-46....see got luck or not.

Posted by Evergreen5101 > 2017-01-18 16:50 | Report Abuse

aiyoo... drop so much switch boat to Evergreen la...

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-18 16:54 | Report Abuse

we r glad no listen to stockperformer loh...if not lose kaw kaw loh!!

Posted by Farge168 > 2017-01-18 17:02 | Report Abuse

See who is laughing at last..........

Posted by Dylan Yong Hua Tai > 2017-01-18 19:24 | Report Abuse

No need to guess here & there....wait until quarterly report out then you will know the answer. Economy good, pass few quarter result also good so not need to worry. Just wait and see. All my Hevea share currently is those the earned unit, just keep for the dividend.

Posted by nich0las > 2017-01-18 20:06 | Report Abuse

i want to collect more leh. Can drop more little bo? pls...

Posted by mwbong > 2017-01-18 22:28 | Report Abuse

refer here for great anlaysis
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/candlestick/112850.jsp

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 09:20 | Report Abuse

mwbong,

Good thing is loser evergreen is not in the list because it has highest debts among all makers and worst is that it is strapped with a whopping RM 216.585m debts! Can buy all others but avoid Evergreen at all cost!

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 10:22 | Report Abuse

Lovely Hevea always trending up.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-19 10:53 | Report Abuse

Posted by starperformer > Jan 19, 2017 10:25 AM | Report Abuse

Most ppl in Hevea sold at high and buyback for more future profits. Who would hold indefinitely? Ah yes, I forgot u and ur comrades are stuck in Evergreen.

stockraider
2376 posts

Posted by stockraider > Jan 19, 2017 10:46 AM | Report Abuse X

I thought u ask people to strong buy Rm 1.57 to rm 1.58 say very good mah...!!

Now fall already sing diff tune loh....!!

But anyhow sell is correct bcos Hevea going to bankrupt bcos of owner con loh...!!

RAIDER COMMENT;
DO NOT LISTEN TO STARPERFORMER BCOS WHAT HE SAID IN EVERGREEN THREAD IS DIFF FROM WHAT IS SAID IN HEVEA THREAD LOH...!!
IN OTHER WORDS, HE IS A CONMAN TO ASK YOUR ALL BUY LOH...WHILE HE QUIETLY SELL LOH....!!

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 11:24 | Report Abuse

Hevea is one of the BEST PERFORMING export stock. No doubt. Most furniture makers have LOW P/E RATIO usually single digit P/E. Hevea is well below P/E of 10. Continue to buy Hevea because of it's SOLID fundamentals and financial position. Main reasons:

- NET CASH.
- DOUBLE DIGIT PROFIT MARGINS GROWTH per quarter.
- Rapid expansion for RTA by buying & bulding new factory. (*This RTA segment has higher profit margins & that is why kiasu late-comer Evergreen also want to venture into it)

LOL why buy debt-laden Evergreen? It is OVER-RELIANT of ONE PRODUCT SEGMENT that is MDF at 80% revenues. Not diversified. It has RM 216,585,000 of both long-term and short-term debts. U should start to worry by now because Evergreen's share price does not move much & always forever CAPPED BELOW 1.00 MARK.

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 11:35 | Report Abuse

Let me analyze and speak out truths and facts. HEVEA has peaked at 1.58 recently and touched down to 1.47 recently too so that is a mere 7.5% retreat from recent peak at 1.58, not a significant number so still regard that as PROFIT TAKING and PRICE RETRACEMENT (*Healthy price movement because no share price is straight up & more importantly the UPTREND is INTACT).

What about EVERGREEN? One thing to say to assure people not to continue stuck in it is.....DOWNTREND is INTACT. HIGH BORROWINGS of RM 216,585,000 WOW!

Posted by stockraider > 2017-01-19 11:37 | Report Abuse

Hevea people got con alot of monies mah....!
Once factory construction start all hevea cash will be gone plus big borrowing for hevea loh....!!
Then wait 3 yrs for high cost factory to be ready loh...!!

U think can pay div meh ?
Don forget hevea overvalue with NTA only Rm 0.85...once big con start, how much shareholders fund is loss leh ?

Pls aware of the danger loh...!!

Posted by nich0las > 2017-01-19 11:51 | Report Abuse

stockraider, pls go back to your counter. shut up here pls. shh.. shh..

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 11:54 | Report Abuse

Hevea con monies? Where and what to be specifics? Got evidence to back-up ur claims? If don't have then u better stop preaching ur half-truths here to avoid further embarrassment of urself. If Hevea has something to hide, they wouldn't even publish the purchase price of the said land from auction by the director. This is called transparency and nothing to hide loh. Clean and clear mah while doing well. Any other points u want to raise here?

Posted by starperformer > 2017-01-19 11:58 | Report Abuse

Another round of making money underway in Hevea loh. stockraider, buy more Hevea to recoup ur heavy losses in Evergreen LOL.

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:43 | Report Abuse

see... farker sxckperformer is confirmed an idiot again...
i have told him many times that Evergreen is not categorized as "furniture stock" yet (at least not for now) as their current RTA portion is about 5% only.

And many other posts (including the one by Ricky Yeo) compare among "furniture stocks"...

and I have explained that this sxckperformer is not giving fair comparison to compare Evergreen with other "furniture stocks"...

until today he has not answered my questions... see? no-balls... run away from my questions..

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

let me cut and paste my statements and question to him again:

let me make one last blow to him on his idixtic and biased comments (for his personal agenda i guess, if not why spend so much time here... quite obvious, he missed the boat and is trying to pull down the share price - but who is he? does he have such influence.. haha.. )..


1) Debt of Evergreen (which is manageable and reasonable for the industry it is involved in) - he keeps saying that Hevea has zero debt but Evergreen has debt.. I have told him that Hevea is more like a furniture company as its 60% sales are from RTA (ready to assemble furniture) which are less capex intensive. Where as currently Evergreen manufactures 80% of raw MDF so it is more capex intensive in terms of the machineries and maintenance. They are not in the exact industries so you just can't compare directly.. he has not even answered my question on this one.. Yes, evergreen will target to build more RTA (current 5% of total revenue), but their main focus is still MDF at current stage. So, until one day when Evergreen has its RTA sales reach 50-60% of total revenue, then only it is fair to directly compare with Hevea on the debt/net cash...

2) Debt of Evergreen - again, let's discuss if the debt is bad or actually good for evergreen. We know that many business raise loans to expand. We have to examine whether their profit margin is higher than the interest they need to pay for the loan. Last year (2015 full year), evergreen net profit margin is 9.1%. This year (up to 9 months), due to forex loss, the net profit margin dropped to 7.3%. But this is still higher than the bank interest rate that they are paying for... example, if you earn RM10 additional but you pay RM5 for interest, u still get additional (net RM5) for the expansion... so why not to expand if you have net profit from there?

3) Dividend - he is again very biased and misleading here.. 2013-14 were bad years for Evergreen, we all know and admit that. This was due to the intense competition of MDF makers within ASEAN (as 2006-08 were good years and many new MDF makers ventured into this business can caused over-supply) However, as mentioned by Evergreen management, many small and incompetitive MDF players have been washed out (go bankrupt) during the bad years of 2012-2014 due to losses.. but evergreen as the biggest MDF player in ASEAN with strong footing and experience has weathered thru the storm and grow bigger now.. in fact, they ate up the market shares of those closed-shop small factories,.. so from 2013-14, we cannot expect evergreen to pay dividends during tough years.. why I said he is biased? When Hevea was in deep financial woes during 2009-2010, why did sxckperformer not question: why Hevea did not pay out dividend during tat time? see? he is manipulating his words...

4) Dividend - in latest AGM, Evergreen management has approved to give out at least 40% of net profit to shareholders... so, with the expansion plan almost done (will require less capex, and have more cash)... we can expect more dividend to come.. we invest in the future of Evergreem.. but this joker keeps talking about the past.. and he totally kept quiet about Hevea's past on the bad years.. and when raider said Hevea almost went bankrupt.. what did this sxckperformer say? Trump went bankrupt 3 times but now is a US president.. haha.. funny right? we know it is not end of day for bankruptcy, but we dislike his biased view on evergreen.. Hevea's past was bad, but it is ok.. Evergreen's past was bad, but it is not OK.. see it?

sxckperformer.. see.. i wasted so much time to explain to some idixt like u.. quickly thank me la.. coz i "put money in ur pocket" d...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

i have answered all his stupid and manipulated questions, but he has not even answered my one question:

is evergreen a furniture stock at current stage? is it fair to compare its capex intensive business with "pure/mainly" furniture makers which are less capex intensive?

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

AND ONE MORE THING....

until now, he still dares not take up my challenge...

sissy farker retarded sxckperformer..
if you dare to accuse me of modifying my portfolio, where are your balls (oppps, i forgot you cut them off already) to take up challenge?


1) If I modified my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), I will die horribly today...

2) If I did not modify my average price for Evergreen and the % profit for Evergreen and other shares (not shown), you will die horribly today...

God will know and judge...

if u have balls, take up this challenge...

else get lost and dun ever talk cxck again...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

ANSWER to me, sissy, no-balls idixt....

you are best at barking and then running away with your doggie tail snapped between your legs...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

dun farking talk cxck anymore if you dare not take up my challenge...

you think you can simply accuse ppl just like that, fark you!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

other ppl here can see that you are such a loser...

until now, sxckperformer still has no balls to take up my challenge...
that means what???

1) he has no balls
2) he does not admit his wrong-doing in accusing me
3) he is a typical loser (who always lose) but want to win so badly by all means
4) he has no face to apologize to me for accusing me
5) maybe he cut off his penxs already to train some legendary Kungfu like "Kuai Fa Bou Dim".. haha

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

and pls do the same if you dare:

1) show us your Hevea profit/loss in your portfolio
2) swear (like what I did) that you did not modify your average price

I don't think this sissy will ever do this...

Reasons:
1) He is very likely (i said very likely, not like some idixt said like he is 100% sure) stuck at high entry price for Hevea
2) He has no-balls lorrrrrrrrrr...................

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:44 | Report Abuse

haha... u guys realize or not..

sxckperformer keeps talking about debt and dividend of evergreen...
in fact, i explained that above.. but he just ignored my explanation...
and still live in his own farking world and talk cxck...

ppl here are wise ok?
they can see that this idixt is running away from my question...

typical LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 12:45 | Report Abuse

and more importantly.... I demand him to apologize to me for insulting me of modifying my average price...

but i am quite sure loser and low-life farker like him will never apologize to anyone even though he already realize his mistake...

i have to assume that low-life idixt like him is living alone in his own world...

Evergreen5101, previously you said he sure can't live in harmony with his wife bcoz he just wants to win (despite that fact that he is already wrong)...

Let me tell you, i doubt idixt like him will have a wife, or even a girl-friend..

u think his "always want to win, thick-face, run away from questions, pretend did not see my challenge" attitude will attract any girl? haha.... i really doubt...

sometimes i really pity him a lot....

Posted by younginvestor92 > 2017-01-19 12:49 | Report Abuse

Dolly, dont be so angry. just be confident with your holding if you are so sure of evergreen prospect. As Hevea's shareholders' we have at least 25 percent and above ROI in the near term.

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 13:03 | Report Abuse

youngeinvestor92, thanks for your advice...
the reason why i am angry is that:

this low-life idixt sxckperformer accused me of modifying my average price of evergreen.. which is a serious false accusation.. this is an insult and slander to me...

that is why i challenged him to swear like i did...

why not, if he is 100% sure i edited my average price, and if he is 100% i am having paper loss now?

wtf.. he is now running away from my challenge.. pretending that he did not see it...
continue hiding his balls and act like a sissy...

really pathetic idixt... now still dare to talk cxck without even answering to my challenge yet...

can you all trust his words?

Again, I know fundamental-wise, Hevea has no problem...

what I said is, evergreen has better growth in future that will surprise investors, that is why i am in...
and i believe i will have higher chance to make more profit buying evergreen...

that is it...but u see how this low life idixt came up with all sort of nonsense....

Posted by mr00183 > 2017-01-19 13:48 | Report Abuse

Dolly chai obvious prospect of growth doesnt translate into obvious profit.

Posted by Ezra_Investor > 2017-01-19 13:54 | Report Abuse

Please do not spam the irrelevant in Hevea thread. You can do so in your own Eveergreen thread.
Spammers are not welcomed. Please be a civil forum member, thank you.

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 15:09 | Report Abuse

i wish to be a civil forumer, unfortunate this idixt sxckperformer started all this nonsense and i have to fight back...

Posted by Dolly_Chai > 2017-01-19 15:12 | Report Abuse

mr00183, you are right, i agree 100% with what you say... that is why we need to investigate if the growth is positive or negative...

Evergreen has stated that their are investing in advanced MDF & particleboard machines that are able to churn out thinner, premium grade boards that serve niche market, which commands higher profit margin...

they are also expanding their VA (value add) MDF such as veneer and laminated MDF, etc to command better margin...

they are also building more RTA lines which will command better margin...

they also did some internal restructure to cut cost and improve efficiency...

after all, all this points to positive side of the growth so i am very optimistic of its future