PRGL market cap is HKD3.64 bil. PHB owns 53.5% of PRGL. 1 HKD = 0.55 MYR.
Therefore PHB's stake in PRGL is worth RM1.07 bil.
Current PHB market cap = RM645 mil.
This doesn't even count its stake in PRAL which is worth around RM200mil.
Now the question is, is PRGL rising based on unfounded speculation...or do the guys there know something we don't? If PRGL's ascent is lasting, then sooner rather than later PHB's valuation will also catch up, no doubt.
Like the saying goes, In the short-term the market is a voting machine but in the long term it's a weighing machine. So, be patient as patience is virtue.
Can anyone here go to China websites and see why Parkson Retail Group is going so high? I am not able to type in Chinese. Doing an English language search yields nothing.
Posted by nikicheong > Jun 6, 2017 10:58 PM | Report Abuse
Can anyone here go to China websites and see why Parkson Retail Group is going so high? I am not able to type in Chinese. Doing an English language search yields nothing.
Ks55, the counters you recommend above are no doubt decent companies worth investing. Having said that, it does not mean that parkson is not a good buy at such depressed prices. It's during such periods can you get to buy companies with good market repute and share for pennies. So you need to look at the circumstances that has resulted in parkson losing currently. It's beyond most retail businesses operating in a big way in markets like China, Malaysia and Indonesia. They all have their local issues which has caused a temporary slow down in parkson's business. Tell me how many businesses in this world that did not ever experience a slow down. It's during times like these that you get the opportunity to buy such good cash generating assets for a song. If parkson is still profitable, do you think you will be looking at the current price? Take a good hard look at their assets and the good cash flow they generate and you will realise that it's a great buy. Most analyst recommendations result in people losing their pants. They will tell you to buy even at sky high prices obviously with an agenda and will tell you to sell even when the share is selling at dirt cheap prices when they start to report lower profits and/or losses. So tell me how are you going to make money when these analyst change their recommendations overnight like changing clothes the moment the companies they recommend suddenly start reporting losses. You will be caught with your pants down after buying into these high flyers. So stay safe and remember, He who is low fear no fall. Goodnight.
If you believe in what you say then don't buy even at 50 sen. It does not make sense. The difference is only 8 sen. You need to be credible in your argument. If you strongly believe that parkson is so bad, then 50 sen is a lot to pay for all that you have mentioned above. Just remember, it's no point comparing with companies which are in trouble due to over-gearing. Companies should be looked at in isolation. Parkson has no connection with WC's steel business. Anyway, you're entitle to your opinion and I wish you well in your stock picks, cheers.
6. With all meow-meow losing money, and not able to pay dividend, how WC going to pay interest on margin finance of his pledged securities to tune of 20m to 50m a year?
7. Also take note Parkson derives its valuation from these two operating units. They are selling dirt 'cheap' now, and should be going down some more. PRGL at HK$0.69 - record low, will break its own record again. PRA at S$0.1580 - near record low, can make record any time. Sum of Parts (SOP) is at 69 sen. With 30% discount attached to holding company (as safety margin), safe to buy at not more than 50 sen.
8. WC has been selling Parkson share at around 91 sen. WC sold 10.35M Parkson shares on 12.04.2016, 2.06M on 14.04.2016, and 2.18M on 20.04.2016 and 5.3m on 26.04.2016.
9. Meaning that either he think the share already overvalued, or he has to get some money to pay interest, or the pledged shares were forced sold, or he invite all meow-meow share-holders to go holland together with him.
10. All Lion meow-meow face potential forced selling by the creditors. This include Parkson shares.
11. Parkson rests on yesteryears business model. No hope for any turn around at least in next 3 years.
12. Share Buy-backs are weakening the balance-sheets even of the most cash-rich firms. Is Parkson really cash rich? How about 89.39m interest paid for 9 months on 2.49 billion borrowings? Since 2008, WC already used up 2.1 billion to buy back Parkson shares, otherwise he could have saved 75m on interest payment for 9 months.
13. Parkson share buy-back has become a kind of corporate cocaine that induces a temporary feeling of invincibility but masks weakness and vacuity. It has become a norm for any punter to buy by 4.30pm, then park to sell at 4.49pm. WC is going to pay these punters 'toll' to push up closing price everyday. He cannot stabilize Parkson share price with such tactic, but just draining the valuable cash. Worst still it become clear for WC to commit suicide by drinking sea water in the ocean to quench thirst (飲鳩止渴). Sooner or later Parkson is going to bleed to death.
14. Please don't tell me WC cannot understand the logical reasoning above. To me, he is paying peanuts to get monkeys to run his business empire -- from the very top to the sales personnel. Don't believe, just go to any Parkson outlet to see what are the sales girls doing......
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PRA 3 month lost S$12m. -- Parkson, which does not have stores in Singapore, reported that net loss for the three months to June 30 was S$12 million.
PRGL 3 month lost RMB 106.4m. -- Parkson Holdings’ China arm, Parkson Retail Group (PRG) reported its 2QFY16 net loss of 106.4mil renmimbi.
Parkson Holding Bhd 3 month lost (12m x 3.0 x 0.676) + (106.4m x 0.51 x 0.547) + 4.0m (Maju Junction) + 2.0m (Net Interest charges) = 60m Expecting result be out by 26.08.2016.
Do you think Parkson still can hold at 75 sen? Do you think Parkson will be at 70 sen by 28.08.2016? Do you think Parkson can come down to 60 sen? Do you think when Affin Hwang start to force sell pledged shares, Parkson can come down to 50 sen?
WC is clever, he sold 5.0m Parkson shares at 80 sen on 17.08.2016, at the same time using Ah Kong's money to institute SBB 330k at 80.5 sen on 16.08.2016, and 280k at 78.5 sen on 18.08.2016.
Ks55, I'm afraid you got most of your assertions above wrong. Please take a good hard look at the AR of the three companies and their latest quarterly announcement and it is not all doom and gloom. I hope you know how to read and interpret the financial statements. Online business will never ever be able to replace the physical retail business. Have a nice day.
Agree. Many online business turn out to be fake 1. Be careful. Instead of saving some money you might lose 100% your money buying online.
kelvin61 Ks55, I'm afraid you got most of your assertions above wrong. Please take a good hard look at the AR of the three companies and their latest quarterly announcement and it is not all doom and gloom. I hope you know how to read and interpret the financial statements. Online business will never ever be able to replace the physical retail business. Have a nice day. 24/06/2017 13:02
ANALYSIS OF SHAREHOLDINGS Share Capital as at 30 September 2016 Authorised Capital : RM4,500,000,000 Issued and Paid-up Capital : RM1,093,902,050 Class of Shares : Ordinary shares of RM1.00 each Voting Rights : One (1) vote per ordinary share Distribution of Shareholdings as at 30 September 2016 No. of % of No. of % of Size of Shareholdings Shareholders Shareholders Shares Shares (a) Less than 100 2,201 16.12 67,013 0.01 100 to 1,000 1,897 13.89 786,517 0.07 1,001 to 10,000 6,764 49.54 24,132,593 2.23 10,001 to 100,000 2,439 17.86 63,594,390 5.89 100,001 to less than 5% of issued shares 349 2.56 626,613,269 57.98 5% and above of issued shares 4 0.03 365,476,388 33.82 13,654 100.00 1,080,670,170 100.00 Substantial Shareholders as at 30 September 2016 Direct Interest Indirect Interest Substantial Shareholders No. of Shares % of Shares (b) No. of Shares % of Shares (b) 1. Tan Sri William H.J. Cheng 297,853,526 27.56 347,872,796 32.19 2. Tan Sri Cheng Yong Kim 7,170,986 0.66 322,747,673 29.87 3. Dynamic Horizon Holdings Limited – – 315,741,147 29.22 4. Lion Industries Corporation Berhad 70,617,853 6.53 245,123,294 22.68 5. Lion Forest Industries Berhad 56,000,000 5.18 – – 6. LLB Steel Industries Sdn Bhd – – 233,693,845 21.63 7. Steelcorp Sdn Bhd – – 233,693,845 21.63 8. Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd 177,559,617 16.43 56,134,228 5.19 9. Lembaga Tabung Haji 105,458,219 9.76 – – Notes: (a) Excluding a total of 13,231,880 shares in the Company bought back by the Company and retained as treasury shares according to the Record of Depositors as at 30 September 2016. (b) Excluding a total of 13,281,880 shares in the Company bought back by the Company and retained as treasury shares as at 30 September 2016. 200 Thirty Largest Registered Shareholders as at 30 September 2016 No. of % of Registered Shareholders Shares Shares (a) 1. AMSEC Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 142,887,730 13.22 MTrustee Berhad for Cheng Heng Jem 2. Lembaga Tabung Haji 103,763,219 9.60 3. Kenanga Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 61,652,196 5.71 Pledged Securities Account for Cheng Heng Jem 4. HSBC Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 57,173,243 5.29 Pledged Securities Account for Cheng Heng Jem (105-710073) 5. Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd 45,084,780 4.17 6. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 40,902,750 3.78 OSK Capital Sdn Bhd for Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd 7. Affin Hwang Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 38,816,798 3.59 Pledged Securities Account for Cheng Heng Jem (M09) 8. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 34,689,636 3.21 Bank of China (Malaysia) Berhad Pledged Securities Account for Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd - 1 9. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 34,243,212 3.17 Bank of China (Malaysia) Berhad Pledged Securities Account for Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd - 2 10. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 29,631,353 2.74 OSK Capital Sdn Bhd for Lion Industries Corporation Berhad 11. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 20,108,737 1.86 Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (Malaysia) Berhad Pledged Securities Account for Cheng Heng Jem 12. Citigroup Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 19,089,454 1.77 Employees Provident Fund Board 13. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 17,672,692 1.64 Bank of China (Malaysia) Berhad Pledged Securities Account for Amsteel Mills Sdn Bhd - 3 14. Affin Hwang Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 17,600,000 1.63 Trillionvest Sdn Bhd 15. Alliancegroup Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 14,415,157 1.33 Pledged Securities Account for Cheng Heng Jem (8119566) 16. MIDF Amanah Investment Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 13,448,254 1.24 Pledged Securities Account for Tan Sri Cheng Heng Jem (MGN-WCH0004M) 17. AMSEC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 11,429,449 1.06 MTrustee Berhad for Excel Step Investments Limited 18. DB (Malaysia) Nominee (Tempatan) Sendirian Berhad 10,742,298 0.99 icapital. biz Berhad 19. Alliancegroup Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 10,059,164 0.93 Pledged Securities Account for Lion Industries Corporation Berhad (8106442) 20. Maybank Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 9,848,213 0.91 Asian Finance Bank Berhad for Trillionvest Sdn Bhd (SF) 21. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 8,452,438 0.78 J.P. Morgan Securities Plc 22. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 8,403,808 0.78 CBNY for State Teachers Retirement System of OHIO 23. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 7,851,900 0.73 Pledged Securities Account for Lion Industries Corporation Berhad 24. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 7,706,742 0.71 CBNY for Dimensional Emerging Markets Value Fund 25. Lee Shin Cheng @ Lee Leong 7,561,365 0.70 26. Cheng Yong Kim 7,170,986 0.66 27. Lion Realty Private Limited 7,006,526 0.65 28. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 6,829,816 0.63 BBH and Co Boston for Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index Fund 29. RHB Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 6,530,790 0.60 Bank of China (Malaysia) Berhad Pledged Securities Account for Lion Industries Corporation Bhd - 2 30. Kenwingston Sdn Bhd 6,300,000 0.58
LIST OF GROUP PROPERTIES AS AT 30 JUNE 2016 Tenure/ Existing Use/ Net Date of Address Expiry Date for Area Description Age of Building Book Value Acquisition/ Leasehold (Year) (RM Million) Last Revaluation 1. 44-60, Zhongshan Road Leasehold 76,013.2 Commercial Shopping 118.0 June 2004 Shinan District, Qingdao, 3.4.2045 sq metres building complex and Shandong Province, China office (16) 2. 127, Renming Zhong Road Leasehold 30,498.6 Commercial Shopping 29.3 June 2004 Wuxi, China 22.4.2044 sq metres building complex and office (20) 3. 239, Dongda Street Leasehold 17,755.4 Commercial Shopping 20.4 June 2004 Xi’an, China 1.5.2040 sq metres building complex (19) 4. 37, Financial Street Leasehold 60,888.6 Commercial Shopping 437.1 July 2006 Xicheng District 30.10.2047 sq metres building complex and Beijing, China office (22) 5. 88, Er Dao Street Leasehold 42,574.0 Commercial Shopping 187.0 January 2008 Tie Dong District 11.5.2040 sq metres building complex Anshan City (29) Liaoning Province, China 6. New Urban Area Nga Nam Leasehold 23,000.0 Commercial Shopping 60.2 June 2009 Catbi Airport 4.11.2075 sq metres building complex Ngo Quyen District (10) Hai Phong City, Vietnam 7. Block 1, No. 12 Leasehold 62,681.0 Commercial Shopping 594.8 December 2009 Qi Sheng Middle Road 30.8.2044 sq metres building complex and Chaoyang District office Beijing, China (6) 8. The Northeast Corner Leasehold 61,426.2 Commercial Shopping 448.8 March 2013 of Nanmenwai Street 10.7.2052 sq metres building complex and Shenyi Street under Heping District construction Tianjin, China 9. Kawasan Bandar XLII Daerah Melaka Tengah Melaka - Lot No. PT 842, Leasehold 23.2 acres Land For mixed 151.8 December 2012, HS(D) 72191 28.11.2111 development January 2015 - Lot No. PT 845, Leasehold 6 acres Land For mixed 39.2 January 2015 HS(D) 80216 25.5.2113 development 10. CBD Sektor VII Bintaro Jaya Leasehold 2,981 Land Retail space 39.4 March 2015 B.07 Blok D No. 5 18.12.2020 sq metres and office Pondok Jaya, Pondok Aren and under Tangerang Selatan, Banten 20.10.2028 construction Indonesia 11. No. 195, Leasehold 228,622.0 Commercial Shopping 987.1 December 2015 Hong Kong East Road 5.12.2050 sq metres building complex Laoshan District, Qingdao (1) Shandong, China
LIST OF GROUP PROPERTIES AS AT 30 JUNE 2016 Tenure/ Existing Use/ Net Date of Address Expiry Date for Area Description Age of Building Book Value Acquisition/ Leasehold (Year) (RM Million) Last Revaluation 1. 44-60, Zhongshan Road Leasehold 76,013.2 Commercial Shopping 118.0 June 2004 Shinan District, Qingdao, 3.4.2045 sq metres building complex and Shandong Province, China office (16) 2. 127, Renming Zhong Road Leasehold 30,498.6 Commercial Shopping 29.3 June 2004 Wuxi, China 22.4.2044 sq metres building complex and office (20) 3. 239, Dongda Street Leasehold 17,755.4 Commercial Shopping 20.4 June 2004 Xi’an, China 1.5.2040 sq metres building complex (19) 4. 37, Financial Street Leasehold 60,888.6 Commercial Shopping 437.1 July 2006 Xicheng District 30.10.2047 sq metres building complex and Beijing, China office (22) 5. 88, Er Dao Street Leasehold 42,574.0 Commercial Shopping 187.0 January 2008 Tie Dong District 11.5.2040 sq metres building complex Anshan City (29) Liaoning Province, China 6. New Urban Area Nga Nam Leasehold 23,000.0 Commercial Shopping 60.2 June 2009 Catbi Airport 4.11.2075 sq metres building complex Ngo Quyen District (10) Hai Phong City, Vietnam 7. Block 1, No. 12 Leasehold 62,681.0 Commercial Shopping 594.8 December 2009 Qi Sheng Middle Road 30.8.2044 sq metres building complex and Chaoyang District office Beijing, China (6) 8. The Northeast Corner Leasehold 61,426.2 Commercial Shopping 448.8 March 2013 of Nanmenwai Street 10.7.2052 sq metres building complex and Shenyi Street under Heping District construction Tianjin, China 9. Kawasan Bandar XLII Daerah Melaka Tengah Melaka - Lot No. PT 842, Leasehold 23.2 acres Land For mixed 151.8 December 2012, HS(D) 72191 28.11.2111 development January 2015 - Lot No. PT 845, Leasehold 6 acres Land For mixed 39.2 January 2015 HS(D) 80216 25.5.2113 development 10. CBD Sektor VII Bintaro Jaya Leasehold 2,981 Land Retail space 39.4 March 2015 B.07 Blok D No. 5 18.12.2020 sq metres and office Pondok Jaya, Pondok Aren and under Tangerang Selatan, Banten 20.10.2028 construction Indonesia 11. No. 195, Leasehold 228,622.0 Commercial Shopping 987.1 December 2015 Hong Kong East Road 5.12.2050 sq metres building complex Laoshan District, Qingdao (1) Shandong, China
This is why I say Parkson is a great buy at current prices. However, most analyst are slow off the block and will only start to recommend after the company has fully turnaround and after the house has stocked up the shares as stockist. Then they tell you to buy to profit from your buying as there is no free lunch in this world. So, the majority of market players are followers who can't see value when it's right in front of their eyes. These players never learn as memories are short and repeatedly lose money year in year out. For those that believe in the parkson turnaround story, I wish you well and please hold tightly to your shares as the physical Retail market will eventually rebound soon.
Thank you, William Cheng for putting the record straight on the online business, your shareholdings and properties owned by the Parkson group. Hopefully, the smart ones will be able to see the value.
William_Cheng Agree. Many online business turn out to be fake 1. Be careful. Instead of saving some money you might lose 100% your money buying online.
You obviously appear to be a greehorn in the corporate world based on your assumptions above. You appear to have a grudge with WC's companies. So you are probably an unhappy ex-employee or have a loss a bundle dabbling with WC's companies when the prices were high in the past. Either way, you don't seem to be making your point here on Parkson.
PRGL market cap(MC) HKD 3.267 billion. If X ER 0.534 total MC=RM 1.745 billion. Parkson stake in PRGL 55% so Parkson worth in PRGL already RM 960 million more than its own MC RM 629 million in fact 53% more.
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Posted by kelvin61 > 2017-06-05 11:57 | Report Abuse
PRGL at 52wk high of 1.26. Indication of business turnaround in China. Buy PHB when it is still cheap.