Posted by taitaumau > 2022-11-13 23:12 | Report Abuse

Not to dampen the high expectation of return as shown by many of you, may i take a cautious views to draw your attention on the following matters
Upon completion of disposal on 13/10/22,
1. Compensation receivables (80.5M) - this amount is still pending certification by Malaysian Highway Authority. EGM circular says "If the Government of Malaysia actually settles less than the amount receivable shown in this Circular for any reason, then the relevant Concession Holding Company bears the full risk of this shortfall.
2. Retention sum (20.5M) - uncertain whether there is any warranty claim (retention period will only expire on 31/1/13)

Anyway, i do hope that there is no significant impact on capital repayment should the above events unfortunately occur.
Note: EGM Circular Pg 118 refers

Posted by taitaumau > 2022-11-13 23:16 | Report Abuse

correction: retention period expires on 31/1/2023

Posted by csan > 2022-11-14 02:10 | Report Abuse

taitaumau, the circular also says that the actual amount received compared to the estimate has always been +-5% historically. The future interest income should cover for any shortfall. and if i am not mistaken, there is also a WACC return on that retention sum that ALR has to pay to Litrak.

Posted by Just88 > 2022-11-14 15:10 | Report Abuse

Only 90% of the money is in the trust acccount

Posted by csan > 2022-11-14 17:01 | Report Abuse

just88, are you referring to investment in securities as the non-trust cash?

Posted by Just88 > 2022-11-14 17:58 | Report Abuse

No, its asset is 100% in cash, but only 90% of the cash is in designated trust account which can only be distributed to shareholders or acquiring new business. Balance is in normal bank account under BOD's free control.

Posted by csan > 2022-11-14 18:41 | Report Abuse

just88, now i understand. this should be for the RM9.6 million in future estimated expenses?

Posted by Just88 > 2022-11-14 20:03 | Report Abuse

Csan, the regulation stipulates that at least 90% cash in hand must be placed in a designated trust account. Could be more than the estimated future expenses. Need to wait for the next results to see the trust amount.

Posted by speakup > 2022-11-15 09:01 | Report Abuse

Speakup bought 3.80, sold off all avg 4.97

Posted by rohank71 > 2022-11-18 09:11 | Report Abuse

all made money here. dividend paid out yesterday. enjoy the last 53 to 55 Sen in Oct 2023 or earlier.

Posted by cklimm > 2022-11-18 10:24 | Report Abuse

there goes our Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs

Posted by speakup > 2022-11-20 22:16 | Report Abuse

good thing litrak sale to alr completed before GE15, otherwise litrak deal sure cancelled by PN

Posted by speakup > 2022-11-30 21:59 | Report Abuse

After Litrak, will govt privatise IJM's LEKAS, NPE & BESRAYA?

Posted by sylvester89 > 2023-01-06 11:43 | Report Abuse

alamak when the price will go up again @_@

Posted by Just88 > 2023-01-08 08:41 | Report Abuse

There is not much upside in Litrak left as it will be delisted soon.

Posted by sylvester89 > 2023-01-09 10:58 | Report Abuse

No wonder this company is switching to private property soon. So which mean has the right to delist LITRAK from Bursa anytime right?

Posted by csan > 2023-01-28 00:42 | Report Abuse

warranty period ending. big money coming from ALR soon.

Posted by speakup > 2023-02-02 21:03 | Report Abuse

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2023/02/02/alr-seeks-extension-on-warranty-claim-period-from-highway-concessionaires

Posted by speakup > 2023-02-02 21:03 | Report Abuse

this is called moving the goal post

Posted by observatory > 2023-03-01 09:03 | Report Abuse

Apparently, NTA per share is only RM0.515 as of 31 Dec 2022

Posted by speakup > 2023-03-01 09:18 | Report Abuse

Obviously around there.

Posted by csan > 2023-03-01 10:41 | Report Abuse

the management must now make sure that litrak gets the highest interest income for its cash. last quarter litrak earned RM7 million in interest income.

Posted by taitaumau > 2023-03-01 12:05 | Report Abuse

csan, i believe 3Q RM 7 m is mainly contributed from 1 month interest earned on special dividend 2,475 M prior to its payment to shareholders

Posted by csan > 2023-03-01 14:14 | Report Abuse

taitaumau, as you pointed out earlier, government receivable around RM80million, retention sum around RM20million. but balance sheet only has RM75million receivable. any idea where is the balance RM25million? or is the RM75million in the balance sheet a conservative estimate?

Posted by Just88 > 2023-03-01 15:20 | Report Abuse

A lot of people are caught surprised by the warranty claims

Posted by taitaumau > 2023-03-01 15:43 | Report Abuse

Scan, my understandings (may be wrong):
1. Sprint disposal proceeds for compensation rec. (47 x 1/2) and retention monies (7 x 1/2), Total= 23.5 + 3.5 = 27 M (b4 any warranty claim) is receivable by Ass. Co. (Sprint Holding, S, unlisted). This amount will only be reflected in Litrak Holding ( H, listed) upon receipt ( under equity accounting)
2. This amount is hidden in Holding A/C under the heading "Assets held for distribution" , though the value is stated nil, in order to comply with Acc. standard
3. This sum, TOGETHER WITH OTHER ASSETS x 1/2, IF ANY, will be distributed to H , via capital repayment exercise,

hopefully. situation not that bad as we think

Posted by Just88 > 2023-03-01 15:59 | Report Abuse

Taitaumau, how bad can the situation be ?

Posted by taitaumau > 2023-03-01 16:14 | Report Abuse

Risks include:
Compensation rec. - delay in receipt plus shortfall
Warranty claims - H & S didn't dispute for reduced final agreed sum
Subsequent Corporate expenses - significant prior to winding up

Posted by Just88 > 2023-03-01 16:20 | Report Abuse

Thanks, taitaumau

Posted by Syndicates > 2023-03-01 19:56 | Report Abuse

not to forget the QR is only reported until 31 dec, retention sum is not deducted by warranty claim. hence the NTA should be 0.515 minus 0.02 (warranty claim) = 0.495

Posted by speakup > 2023-03-01 21:20 | Report Abuse

as far as LITRAK is concerned, the big money is already made. speakup bought 3.80+, sold 4.90+.
if u wan bet on future privatisations, here's the list: MPHBCAP, INSAS, ICAP, FACBIND, KSENG

Posted by csan > 2023-03-02 01:27 | Report Abuse

taitaumau, oh yes i missed that associates part out. so there is actually still another RM25 million not in the net assets of the balance sheet yet? well, now should be RM15 million after warranty claim and this would make the net assets approximately RM0.54. is that right?

Posted by taitaumau > 2023-03-02 08:17 | Report Abuse

csan, you are right. i do hope that all other things remain unchanged !

Posted by speakup > 2023-03-03 08:26 | Report Abuse

Bstead going privatise at 0.855.

Bstead nta 1.62. Net debt 6.85Bil. Share price 0.655.
Insas nta 3.16. Net cash 789Mil. Share price 0.77
Kseng nta 6.74. Net cash 1Bil. Share price 3.53
Insas & Kseng look juicier for privatisation than Bstead.

Posted by csq9883 > 2023-03-03 09:46 | Report Abuse

should i keep litrak stock or sell it?

Posted by speakup > 2023-03-03 10:26 | Report Abuse

Your call. Your choice hold or sell.
As I say the big money already made in LITRAK. You can still make money, but small money now

Posted by csan > 2023-03-03 14:40 | Report Abuse

49.5sen to 54sen is not small money. just be aware of the risks pointed out by taitaumau earlier. but i do think the market is wrongly valuing it by taking the latest net assets and deducting RM10 million from that. they forget that there's another RM15 million that is hidden away. anyway, these kinds of pricing mistakes is how some of us can make money.

Posted by speakup > 2023-03-03 14:49 | Report Abuse

4.5¢/share isn't a lot unless u buy in big bulk.
Before this, we make over rm1/share

Posted by csan > 2023-03-03 14:51 | Report Abuse

lol 4.5sen the risk also 4.5sen, rm1 also the risk rm1. stock market is not genting casino.

Posted by taitaumau > 2023-04-06 18:48 | Report Abuse

Good News !!!
Reference is made to the Company’s announcements dated 13 October 2022 in relation to the completion of the Disposals.
The Board of Directors of LITRAK Holdings wishes to announce that the Company had on 6 April 2023 received an amount of RM57.94 million from ALR representing the balance of Government Compensation Receivable pursuant to the SSPA.
With that, other than the Retained Amount in relation to the ALR Warranty Claims as announced by the Company on 4 April 2023, all proceeds from the disposal of LITRAK have been received by the Company.
This announcement is dated 6 April 2023.

Posted by samanthalee1024 > 2023-05-29 19:02 | Report Abuse

net asset per share of 0.5465 in the unaudited report.. if buy in at price of 0.50.. Will have earning of 0.0465 during asset distribution?asset distribution?

Posted by csan > 2023-05-29 22:56 | Report Abuse

taitaumau, u got the sprint equity accounting right. brilliant stuff. very nice to work with people like you instead of those saying 49.5sen hahaha

Posted by csan > 2023-05-29 22:59 | Report Abuse

samanthalee1024, no. it will be around 52-53sen. because there is some dilution from exercise of ESOS. 52-53sen assumes the RM1.7million interest per quarter remains the same in the upcoming quarters. but its likely to be a little higher because of OPR hike.

Posted by csan > 2023-07-18 15:34 | Report Abuse

litrak will get the court order in 2 days on 20 july. and the capital repayment should be made around 1 month from 20 July.

Posted by Syndicates > 2023-07-20 21:51 | Report Abuse

20th July already. No announcement?

Posted by speakup > 2023-07-21 07:42 | Report Abuse

really dont understand you guys.
speakup sold Litrak and move to Wce. but you guys still hanging on Litrak which has no meat left. You are missing out on opportunities by hanging onto Litrak.

Posted by Syndicates > 2023-07-21 08:42 | Report Abuse

appetite difference. earn extra income with zero capital when you receive dividend

Posted by csan > 2023-07-24 16:36 | Report Abuse

syndicates, it was somehow changed from hearing to case management on 20 july. the order is now scheduled to be given in 2 days on 26 july.

Posted by samanthalee1024 > 2023-07-27 14:55 | Report Abuse

email is out

Posted by Syndicates > 2023-10-19 20:00 | Report Abuse

when take back money?