SIME-CR:CW SIME DARBY BHD (C)

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0.005

Today's Change

0.00 (0.00%)

Day's Change

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84 comment(s). Last comment by kcchongnz 2013-01-04 11:20

passerby

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Posted by passerby > 2012-11-28 15:03 | Report Abuse

index being pull down by Sime now

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2012-11-28 15:31 | Report Abuse

ledzepp. yeah ah, can get for 1.5 sen. Just got some. Aiyah I always catch falling knife.

passerby

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Posted by passerby > 2012-11-28 15:34 | Report Abuse

you got a lot of money, consider donate it to market :)

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2012-11-28 15:34 | Report Abuse

passerby, donate some more? I have been donating already for this bloody Sime.

passerby

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Posted by passerby > 2012-11-28 15:37 | Report Abuse

lol & you are still pumping in ? :)

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-11-28 15:52 | Report Abuse

You are right, it actually went to 0.015! At this price, regardless of the mother's slide, I think I'm going to just jump in and buy.

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2012-11-28 15:56 | Report Abuse

Mat, seems hard to get. Just check my order, only get 1200 shares! Hack i order 2m shares!

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2012-11-28 15:56 | Report Abuse

Oop, one zero more

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-11-28 16:00 | Report Abuse

Now the buyers' lots are building up. I may have been a bit late. But have to stick to this price because I didn't intend to buy earlier. This would qualify as "impulse buying", which I shouldn't be doing. But the price...

ledzepp

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Posted by ledzepp > 2012-11-28 16:12 | Report Abuse

Alamak I'm queuing at 0.01

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-11-30 10:49 | Report Abuse

0.015 is just too low to ignore given its expiry date of 29/3/13 and the ex price of 9.50 which is very reasonable. At a 5:1 ratio, I'll break even at 9.58. Of course, if Sime goes near that, the CR will be significantly more than 0.015 - 0.04 isn't impossible. Worst-case situation - Sime goes down and remains there. But I think there'll be people willing to take the CR at 0.005. Percentage-wise, the loss would be heavy. But money-wise, I've lost 0.015 before:-)

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 11:46 | Report Abuse

sime-cr at 1.5cts is a good buy I will let go at 2cts

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 11:51 | Report Abuse

those who the price want to hold I think u will be able to get at least 3 cts the price b4 it fell.

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 16:19 | Report Abuse

should see an upside on Monday

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 16:30 | Report Abuse

2 cts is a good buy or a 1/2 ct upside on monday

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 16:33 | Report Abuse

I will wait now to sell at 2.5cts

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-11-30 16:39 | Report Abuse

sime should rebound strong on Monday pulling the CR up.cheers

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-11-30 17:27 | Report Abuse

Regardless of Sime's slide over the past week, I feel CR has gone down too much. Shouldn't have been at 1.5 sen considering it still has 4 months, with the ex price not that far away. If Sime goes on a rebound, plus if the year-end rally materialises, this might turn out to be one of my best buys for this year. The downside risk looks minimal.

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-12-12 17:19 | Report Abuse

Sime has been creeping up quietly ever since the dividend ex date and the price going down below 9.00. Added another 8 sen today but the CR is still at 0.015. 9.20 isn't too far from the ex price of 9.50 which is definitely achievable. Expires 29/3/2013.

ledzepp

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Posted by ledzepp > 2012-12-19 10:07 | Report Abuse

richman- you're rich today

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-12-19 10:43 | Report Abuse

I am rich if i had helped others too make some gains.In this case i think many did not buy am i right.I was the only promoter with no response from anybody.

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-12-19 10:45 | Report Abuse

shouls ess more upside coming the mum jumpstart so it shud go higher next stop 9.50

ledzepp

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Posted by ledzepp > 2012-12-19 11:03 | Report Abuse

I was in this earlier, but now I'm scared since the expiry is nearer.

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-12-19 11:11 | Report Abuse

do not blame you i was scared too all these CW must learn to run fast

ledzepp

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Posted by ledzepp > 2012-12-19 11:16 | Report Abuse

Now I'm casting my net on astro-cd, waiting for the mum to go up. But doesn't look like it. Never know this window dressing may come to astro. Hopefully

richman

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Posted by richman > 2012-12-19 12:15 | Report Abuse

cb better longer expiry but ex price a bit more expensive

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-12-19 13:18 | Report Abuse

Looks like Sime is giving me a year-end bonus after all:-) Now I'm getting a bit greedy too - take it now or wait for more? It's quite near to the ex price, and there's still 3 months to go. On the other hand, have to also remember the saying of "Make hay while the sun shines", and this matter of momentum which @Passerby had mentioned about some months ago must be considered.

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-12-19 13:42 | Report Abuse

Looks like everyone has his preference when it comes to Astro's CWs. I'd choose CE although I don't have it right now. It's forming a new base after the recent rise. I think it might go below 2.90 for a while. That's when the weak holders get discouraged and drop off. Only after this will Astro go on another upswing. When, I don't know.

tonylim

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Posted by tonylim > 2012-12-19 13:44 | Report Abuse

MC what do u think of bursa cz?
Boleh ka?

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-12-19 14:04 | Report Abuse

Bursa is one of the counters that I've never ever followed in my investing/trading so far. But now that you've mentioned it, I became intrigued and immediately did a quick check of it. For all you know, this might be an opportunity for some profit. I remember Passerby mentioning BAT-CA a few weeks ago when it was at 0.05. I didn't buy, and it went to 0.10!

Bursa-CZ; ex. 6.50; 31/7/13; ratio 4.
Now at 0.04, mother 6.26.

It has been going down and volume is currently low. But you might be on to something here, Tony. The premium is definitely attractive and there's reasonable time to expiry. Of course, it will have to depend on the mother performing, and it's rather quiet. But with CWs, sometimes jumping the gun and getting in early is the way to go rather than chasing. Thanks, Tony - I'm definitely interested.

Mat Cendana

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Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-12-28 11:03 | Report Abuse

Just a few weeks ago, everyone had shunned this laggard. Even 0.015 looked `too much'. It's tough to go against the grain and accepted common wisdom when the risk of losing money is very real. But often one has to gather the courage, wait and hope for the best regardless of what everyone else says. Now it's at 0.03 - a 100% increase. Not bad for a one-month trade.

beginner_1

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Posted by beginner_1 > 2012-12-28 16:49 | Report Abuse

do u think it will moving forward?

Posted by tomdickharry > 2013-01-04 11:03 | Report Abuse

on the bull. congratulations Mat Cendana, richman & kcchongnz if you are still holding

kcchongnz

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Posted by kcchongnz > 2013-01-04 11:20 | Report Abuse

This shows that if a call warrant is sold at a low premium but with very high gearing and reasonable long time to maturity, it is very exciting to punt. Sime Darby may be a quiet stock, not much volatility. But given time, there will be a time when volatility can spike. Then the highly leverage instrument will yield exaggerated return.

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