Posted by kingsu > 2012-08-09 13:40 | Report Abuse

yeehhaaa!! agree w u

Posted by Ngai Chee Weng > 2012-08-09 14:37 | Report Abuse

ya go go go!

Posted by Ngai Chee Weng > 2012-08-10 10:18 | Report Abuse

got much road block to break.

Posted by rickysoon > 2012-08-10 10:30 | Report Abuse

ya lo~~block go away.... push up push u up

Posted by Ngai Chee Weng > 2012-08-11 14:17 | Report Abuse

ya last moment pushing up a little. closing not bad.

Posted by tonylim > 2012-08-11 15:25 | Report Abuse

3.2 0 already knock twice.

Use the knock the knock three times rule

Posted by tand3 > 2012-08-11 16:33 | Report Abuse

Ole Ole Ole.....

Posted by tand3 > 2012-08-11 16:34 | Report Abuse

Mana Nampak??? Mana Nampak....ALASKA....ole ole ole ole.....IHH can go ALASKA

Posted by Ngai Chee Weng > 2012-08-11 20:47 | Report Abuse

what do u mean, tony? so deep one :D

Posted by tonylim > 2012-08-11 21:31 | Report Abuse

Ngai,

From experience, the resistance of 3.20 need to be visited three times then only it well perk higher.

Got quite a bit of this counter from ipo

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-11 22:21 | Report Abuse

Have any other latest update on IHH business progress ?

Posted by tonylim > 2012-08-11 22:41 | Report Abuse

No. I don't have time for F A.

That's why I am here. I3 is a great forum.

I am in the market for six months to ride on the impending bull run

Posted by Mr Ziet Army > 2012-08-15 08:33 | Report Abuse

SELL!

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-15 08:37 | Report Abuse

Sell for the "duit raya" ? If not why sell....for long term invest return.Selamat Hari Raya in advance.

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-15 12:36 | Report Abuse

IHH is a counter worth holding on to. This is something that will be sought after even when the economy is not doing too well. Despite the availability of healthcare by the government, there will always be people who are willing to pay a premium for themselves and their families when it comes to health.

With IHH, it's a question of how much dividend it will pay out the next time. It is undergoing an expansion process and might want to use a big portion of the profits for this purpose. But when this is completed, I'm sure it will be more profitable and in the position to pay out more dividend.

One more positive factor: I think the price hasn't settled down yet. Remember how SKPetro took some time gyrating (with "down" in the early stages). Then it was at the 2.20-2.25 region for a while. And after that it broke through. I feel the same will happen with IHH, although it's in a different industry.

Don't forget the traditional end of the year window-dressing period. That's not too far away. Plus the Chinese New Year, although the latter is some months ahead. Often, we would shake our heads and lament "Why didn't I buy x when it was at y ??". SKPetro was at 1.95...2.00... 2.10... 2.20 (but didn't buy; only doing so when it is above 2.40??) One day real soon, many will likely feel the same: "Why didn't I buy IHH when it was at 3.16?!"

Posted by joncsk > 2012-08-15 12:56 | Report Abuse

Good one mat cendana.

Anymore of these counters fall under this category so that we can enjoy some early bonus or christmas gifts?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-15 13:04 | Report Abuse

How about the oil & gas counters? These are the ones that various analysts are enthusiastic about. SKPetro - should it go below 2.40, I think that's a reasonable buy. Another one of my favourites is Mudajaya, although maybe it should go down a bit if you want to enter. Anything below 2.60 is extremely reasonable.

But this matter about the impending General Elections is definitely not helping the market. People are very cautious and there's the possibility the market might go down when it is announced (or very near to being announced). However, I would see this as an opportunity to buy the quality stocks. Keep a list ready and your gunpowder dry. When one does his homework, is patient and with a bit of luck in the timing, he should do well.

Posted by gajah > 2012-08-15 14:51 | Report Abuse

Cik Mat - In the case of IHH, there were no buying opportunities. The stock never come down in any big measure. So you're right, just keep your gunpowder dry, and lots of it, the time will surely come. Be patient. In the meantime, this itchy fingers yearn for some action. Anyone you would suggest?

Posted by Chuchu > 2012-08-15 14:56 | Report Abuse

Hi Mat Cendana,
Is there a possibility that IHH will drop further then the status quo, if it does then what would be the lowest price one could expect, could it go lower then the listing price ?
Just need your take on this one and I will not quote this in future.
Thank you.

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-08-16 15:50 | Report Abuse

IHH looks like getting massive selling. Maybe due to Raya? if its 3.05, i am in!

Posted by Chuchu > 2012-08-16 15:56 | Report Abuse

@KC Loh,

Is $3.05 below the listing price ??

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-08-16 16:00 | Report Abuse

i think 2.65 was the listing price if not mistaken!

Posted by Chuchu > 2012-08-16 16:03 | Report Abuse

@KC Loh
From 2.65 to 3.15 in a month !! I guess the dust is beginning to settle now.

Posted by mcd123 > 2012-08-16 16:05 | Report Abuse

IHH IPO price -RM 2.80. Opening price on listing day-3.05.
Bought some today @3.13

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-08-16 16:06 | Report Abuse

looks that way. never discount the fact that people cashing out for raya and long holiday ahead!

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-08-16 16:06 | Report Abuse

yeah, IPO 2.80. thanks for the correction mcd123

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-16 16:10 | Report Abuse

Chuchu: I don't dare to answer those questions. That's because I still can't figure out a way to see the future:-P But one thing you must consider - it does look like our market is undergoing a correction, which is rather mild (at the moment). That means there's the possibility IHH might get cheaper in the near future.

Consider too the coming Raya holidays. Tomorrow will likely be quiet, so I don't see IHH and similar quality stocks going up... except maybe a sen or two here and there. The very long weekend - but it's not in Europe, US and most Asian countries. We don't know what might possibly happen during the duration when our market is closed. I'd rather not be holding onto too many positions right now.

As for the price, the one quoted by KC Loh looks great... if one can get it at that. But in my opinion, anything around 3.10 or so looks reasonable. Wait for next week first.

Posted by Chuchu > 2012-08-16 16:22 | Report Abuse

Dear Brothers,
Thank you for the information provided.
I very well know that no one can predict the market and we cannot win the market always.
Two head is better than one but if things are destined to go wrong than let it be.....we can only plan so much and let the fate take its cause. Just my two cent.

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-16 17:11 | Report Abuse

Siapa curikan duit raya saya dlm counter ini ???

Posted by KC Loh > 2012-08-16 17:19 | Report Abuse

huh? you so careful, your money also stolen?

Posted by Wak Jono > 2012-08-16 18:35 | Report Abuse

Some people sale ihh..n chase astro ipo....some sale for duit raya...so the price stuck..n pull back a bit...but after raya this counter will pickup again..so the short term buyer already out..

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-16 23:03 | Report Abuse

Based on what I've read from various analysts, plus with my own research too, I feel IHH has the potential to go up. But I might have to wait a while. Three to six months is a reasonable timeframe.

However, it will mean having a certain percentage of my capital being tied up, and there are some other counters that I'd also want to buy. With *anyone* (including people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates), capital is always limited regardless of how much one has.So how?

One alternative is to buy the warrants. It's true they have an expire date, don't give out dividends and could result in significant losses should things not go one's way. But if one feels strongly about a counter's potential, that it will go up not too far in the future and wants to take a position on his belief so as to benefit when it does, warrants should be considered. With some counters, I'm taking/has taken this route.

Posted by Hustle > 2012-08-16 23:22 | Report Abuse

Base on the few new listing stock that been traded,the profit margin is not very high and may be will encounter sharp throw from the company itself for cash flow.Without any history trace record and movement trend chart.This kind of new list share better to be avoided by this uncertain moment.How do you thing?

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-16 23:50 | Report Abuse

If one's strategy is basically governed by technical analysis, then yes, the newer shares should be avoided on the basis that there is not enough data and info `from the field' to help with the charts. But I'm one of those who are more into fundamentals, although I'd also use TA in order to try and fine-tune the initial opinions and hypotheses formed on counters based on fundamentals. When fundamentals say one thing but TA says another, I'd tend to favour the former.

But there are also other factors - the ones considered as "unscientific". That gut feeling, for instance, where based on your experience, you simply feel something is very likely to happen. I use this one also although it is not perfect (but then, neither are FA and TA or even a combination of both).

Another factor is "luck". This is something that we can't deny exist. We have seen how the best analysts and fundamentalists with all their tools and experience have been wrong on numerous occasions. But yet some seemingly unsophisticated and clueless with what we might call naive opinions make big profits from their buys! And with a few, quite consistently too. How can this be?! It's that luck factor.

To bring in a bit of religion in order to expand this factor, I'd say it's due to "Qada dan Qadar. In simple terms, what we know as "Fate" - when God Decrees something for someone, it WILL happen.

It's only fairly recently that I've been giving more thought to this one: "Wouldn't it be great if God were to aid us in this...?" Seriously. So how to get Him to do so? Well, how about by improving ourselves? For instance, in cleansing ourselves including our motives and intentions. How about if we change from focusing on "what's in it for us? to "how can I help others?" Instead of trying to get money to buy a Merc, a big house at Damansara Heights, a few kilos of gold etc., what would happen if we "try to get money so that some of it will be used to help those more unfortunate"...? Might we not be more successful?

That's a rhetorical question... because I don't know the answer. But I've been thinking about this one on and off for some time. So how would we come to know about what to do? I believe through that gut feeling, especially when our hearts `are right'.

Phew! Some of you might think I've gone weird:-) I don't know - from your straight and simple question, this winding comment just came out.

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-17 00:11 | Report Abuse

To continue with the first part (the non-spiritual factor), based on past experience and observations, I've found the following to be generally true: if you wait "long enough", the counter will make profits. This is subject to the company having a reasonable business plus management, of course. And it doesn't have to be really rock-solid, A-Grade like Digi, Celcom - just "good enough". Plus one didn't buy at or very near its historical high.

This is something that I had seen with my father's method of investing. He has been in the stockmarket since the 70's and has seen it all; the various bulls and bears. And he's still around while many (most?) of generation are long gone after continued losses. One striking thing that I've seen and know of him - HE WAITS..., sometimes for YEARS! As with any investor, he has had counters sliding after he had bought them. But he's the kind who doesn't cut loss. He just let it be. With most of these counters (a few go bust and are delisted), they would inch their way up bit by bit. With some, it was faster. Sometimes, the gains are more than 100%.

So, back to IHH - we don't know what's the bottom for this one. Nor do we know how high it will go to. These are all for the future to decide. All that we can reasonably do is this: if we really feel it has the potential, just buy it... and wait. Wonder how it will fare in the next six months? I'm going to write it and today's price (3.12) in the diary. Six months from now, we'll revisit this comment and see for ourselves and discuss what has happened.

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-17 09:48 | Report Abuse

Was wrong with my assumption that today will be a slow day for counters like IHH due to the long weekend ahead. You just can't predict what will happen within a very short period in the stockmarket with consistency. However, you might do better over a longer period of time, assuming you have gotten the correct facts and figures to base these on.

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-21 22:56 | Report Abuse

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/insider-asia/217656-ihh-resilient-with-good-prospects-.html
IHH resilient with good prospects.Share link

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-21 23:00 | Report Abuse

IHH for long term invest.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=217485&Itemid=170

Posted by Ngai Chee Weng > 2012-08-23 13:26 | Report Abuse

Latest good news today - http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/8/23/business/11899690&sec=business

Posted by kcfan > 2012-08-27 23:31 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/fdnews/213392.jsp
I eyes for IHH 30 Years.

Posted by PaulinaYong > 2012-08-27 23:55 | Report Abuse

Dear investors please bear in mind IHH is LONG TERM stocks
You need to save it around 3-5year to see the fruit from your investment in this stock.
This stock mimicks KPJ HEALTHCARE stocks.
Which arounds 3 years ago it is trade at RM3/Share, now it traded at RM6/Share..
If you have lots of guts and dont want to play so serious in KLCI this is the stock suit for you.
But bear in mind BUY ON WEAKNESS NOT FUNDAMENTAL WEAKNESS..

Posted by Chuchu > 2012-08-28 15:37 | Report Abuse

Hi Pauline Yong,
Appreciate your information but please can you predict how much IHH would plunge during weakness. Would it go beow $3.05...would it go below $2.80 or since it already has high P/E it would only hover around $2.80 to $3.15. Your insight in this would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2012-08-28 15:40 | Report Abuse

The Catalyst from my chart says 2.20-2.50

Posted by rich kueh > 2012-08-28 15:42 | Report Abuse

miss out on KPJ so gonna stick with IHH

Posted by mcd123 > 2012-08-28 15:49 | Report Abuse

That MacQuarie analyst must be using the same Catalyst in giving the fair value for FGVH.

Posted by Steve Jub > 2012-08-28 15:55 | Report Abuse

Please close green 2 bit please for once.

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-28 19:43 | Report Abuse

The Star's SMS Alert: "IHH Healthcare Q2 earnings jump 426% to RM403.5m from RM76.6m yr ago, revenue up RM230% to RM2.697m. H1 earnings up 195% to RM527.7m".

Very impressive. But will have to see more details on how these numbers came about. Anyway, after setting up a base around 3.11-15 for the past week, hope IHH will start going up.

Posted by weiboy90 > 2012-08-28 20:07 | Report Abuse

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/8/28/business/20120828190331&sec=business
i guess tmr will shot up alot..look at the 6.51c..

Posted by weiboy90 > 2012-08-28 20:15 | Report Abuse

eps 6.51c..

Posted by Mat Cendana > 2012-08-28 20:33 | Report Abuse

The EPS is within what is expected of a 3.00-plus counter. But in IHH's case, there is a premium to it in that it is a relatively recession-proof (to an extent) company that wouldn't be affected by things like the general election. "Dividends and stability" - this is what it offers to investors (although I'm `just' a trader).