offshore never mind you can still talk to me. Why the IBs' say the merger cannot be successful whereas PNB CEO choose them instead of other O&G companies?
Posted by offshore> May 2, 2017 05:17 PM | Report Abuse Hmm... rowie has deleted all his posts wor. Made me look like I was talking to myself.
As I know UMW OG provide drilling oil services whereas Icon provide vessel support to transport oil. Aren't they need each other to transport oil to end buyers?
Why you say PNB CEO choose them? Based on the edge, it was reported this is not pnb-driven. Umwog only provides the drilling services on the oilfield. How the oil that comes out is to be transported will be decided by the oil company but I doubt the osv owned by icon is big enough to transport the oil to the refinery. Orkim vessels are used to transport petroleum products like petrol or diesel which is a downstream activity.
If UMW OG doesn't want to merge then Orkim won't come in right to my understanding?
Posted by offshore > May 3, 2017 10:02 AM | Report Abuse Why you say PNB CEO choose them? Based on the edge, it was reported this is not pnb-driven. Umwog only provides the drilling services on the oilfield. How the oil that comes out is to be transported will be decided by the oil company but I doubt the osv owned by icon is big enough to transport the oil to the refinery. Orkim vessels are used to transport petroleum products like petrol or diesel which is a downstream activity.
Although osv is kind of in an oversupply situation, it is a good addition to have orkim in the umwog group. Orkim, being in the downstream, has stable income and can supplement any shortfall during the downturn in the upstream, although margin is normally thin for stable income stream business. By the way, below was a big warning from petronas way back in year 2014 and after that, we all know what happen:
icon down 9 cents and umwog up 5.5 cents b4 suspension...AMMB say deal off recommend tp 80 cents.. hope PNB will take care of us minority share holders and let the share price recover...good announcement pls..
There are still a few things not clear in their reply to Bursa on N1 sale. Firstly, that 11 offers received are offer to buy as a working rig or scrap metal? Secondly, whether the dry docking can be deferred if there is no contract? Thirdly, any cost comparison to cold stack the rig vs. selling at a loss? Fourthly, any chance to recover the spare cost from petronas since the contract is suspended by them as and when they like? Perhaps, shareholders should ask during agm. Anyway, their decision to sell reinforce my notion that the industry will not recover soon, otherwise, they would have waited it out for a better price.
Andrew62, this downturn tells us there is more than enough oil. The price was high in the past because opec has been controlling the production. But they made a mistake by maintaining that high price for too long to an extent that shale producers have made progress and now, able to produce at a cost that can match offshore producers. Saudi is so cooperative now for production cut because of Aramco IPO. After that, it will be back to their old self.
N1 now lose as book value RM4.7mil (Asset since 2011 depreciated and 43 yrs old) , Schedule docking unavoidable USD35 mil. No contract insight. Cash flow and maintenance issue. Not right decision??
Battosai123, please read through the questions I posed earlier and as I have said, even if cut loss, at least sell it at a reasonable price. Are the 11 offers made by genuine drilling companies or scrap metal dealers? This sale will also look very bad on them if the Japanese manages to get a contract after the sale.
no worries..............mgt knows best, if they screw up, shh will suffer like now. Perhaps if merger off, it may spur other mergers which may be better
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Posted by labu83 > 2017-05-02 09:14 | Report Abuse
C14 0.015,
Cheap n dale