SINGH is a man of peace..please no fighting.... i promise not to shout sell or buy calls anymore..i am empathetic.. i dont want to hurt peoples feelings..
Just thinking if EPF is selling so much as stated in bursa announcements.. i think by now the news is out...and local fund managers are asking themselves what just happened..local funds as in mutual funds..so what would be their response to this selling by EPF... i dont know i need someone to advice me here...i need to know...
Posted by davesingh > Nov 27, 2012 09:36 AM | Report Abuse
SINGH is a man of peace..please no fighting.... i promise not to shout sell or buy calls anymore..i am empathetic.. i dont want to hurt peoples feelings.. There U go Mr Singh :) not that cannot shout sell or buy but must be based on facts lah - but I respect your statement above and hope u can honor it :) Cheers!
Tell u wat Singh? Klse is at all time high and the reason was the movement in the past were all Blue chips includings the telcos and consumers overvalued. Time for these big funds to take profit based on uncertainties.right or not?
if EPF always makes money.. and mutual funds lose money some years.. means that they are late to the exit right..so if that is the case.. that means EPF selling followed by local funds selling right.. so that means market going down more right..anyone can tell me...
technically market is very bearish....if there is no chinese new year rally in early jan. and plus march election uncertainties ...market may be bearish until after election...and if oppositions win????? . This is not a prediction..just a reminder!!!!!!.
the one who sleeps & smells his perfume dog everyday has to right to call everyone a bitch. he has enough experience and qualification same like not holding Kfima stock and shouting! :)
you are right@ruslimz... that is why EPF and the big GLC funds always make money...and the local funds mutual funds reports 20 30 percents loses on a down year.. they are late to the exit...sad but true..
any investors who use charts as a tool for investment don't like the current chart formation for KLCI......not a prediction...just a reminder!!!!!! sorry for those who are not like to be reminded
raspusingh, from telling everyone to look at 20 years charts and predict, you lately have been switching to EPF a lot eh? that is textbook emotional play from the market?
when oh when is your prediction of Digi at RM3 coming true la? i want to see davidraja with 1.20 at Kfima! hahahahahaha
ok@KClow...tell me about EPF i want to learn... like i said no more sell calls or buy calls.. no more free advice..can you tell me why EPF is selling millions upon millions of blue chips...
raspusingh, read la what other people can teach you! aiyoh, dont see the investment world in your own myopic view! EPF & GLCs selling, you also dunno ar? aiyoyo.... and summore shouting you are right everytime!
Posted by Frank Soweto > Nov 27, 2012 09:46 AM | Report Abuse Tell u wat Singh? Klse is at all time high and the reason was the movement in the past were all Blue chips includings the telcos and consumers overvalued. Time for these big funds to take profit based on uncertainties.right or not?
and ok, since i am in a generous mood to tell someone claiming he wants to learn.
Posted by KC Loh > Jul 18, 2012 11:22 PM | Report Abuse X
from my post in WCT thread:
Allow me my input from experience with EPF. EPF is somewhat of an enigma in shareplay. You cannot take them and liken to smaller players. You are not comparing apple to apple when you take EPF as point of comparison. EPF is flushed with cash, with cash coming in every month literally. They are in ideal position to play as even one basis point makes a huge difference. That is why they can observe even 2 or 3 sens difference. Their aim is returns and in the event of low returns, they just declare that their investments are low. There is no problem as every month tens of millions are still pouring in. So no doubt they can even sometimes move in and out of the same counter a few times per day. Just notice that and then make enlightened observations.
For the record,EPF and for that matter MOF has some of the top economists and analysts working for them. I know some of them personally before. They are investing mostly for pride to call themselves as top guns in the game
in the world only EPF is allowed to buy and sell same counter in same day repeatly..yes they are investing mostly for pride...but it abused the market...because they are top gun nobody take actions...if others did the samethings they will be investigated and jailed
yes ruslimz, i think someone in one of the foreign analyst house commented before that EPF is one of the culprit that makes the index high with their buying & selling.
but what to do, they also need to park somewhere their money and to pay interest to retirees when the time comes! i also want them to do well, selfishly, for my own future benefit! :)
and from observation, EPF will have trouble if Malaysia ever gets the way of Japan, with aging population (baby boomer scenario) and emigrating population.
now you know why Mahathir wants the country to reach 80 million previously and why talentcorp is tasked to do what they do!
problem is buying and selling at net loss at the same day....no gain. I think they did this to create the false day volumes in order to impress foreign investors..it is an abuse .....
loss or gain, you never know until they announce their overall results! and again to reiterate, they have the option to say investment returns low due to market sentiments! no big deal when they are dealing with a "float" from others' money!
my questions were not about EPF..its about us.. market is about making money..so we have to use the information we have to adapt to make money in the market..not sit down and complain..that is why i said what i said all this while and people here hated me for it...
Posted by davesingh > Nov 27, 2012 11:36 AM | Report Abuse what nonsense are you talking about KClow.. you are totally mental ah..enough of talking to me la .. please laaaa.. please...
i dunno who the mental KClow is :), but so far KC Loh is happy to provide rebuttal and backed it up with my facts and logic. have you?
KClow..this is a downturn lets not talk about rebounds ok that happens in any downturn.. i till stick to my saying market downturn 15 months...digi to rm3 by then ok .. i stand by my saying...
i dont care if the market does down or up.. i just invest in that direction but for now almost 4weeks is see down...i dont make the market i just follow it to make money..just that people here get emotional so i just dont bother in saying much anymore
This book is the result of the author's many years of experience and observation throughout his 26 years in the stockbroking industry. It was written for general public to learn to invest based on facts and not on fantasies or hearsay....
Posted by 12dec1960 > 2012-11-27 09:28 | Report Abuse
STOP THE CRAP! SET THE VENUE N TIME.. MEET UP AND SETTLE THINGS LIKE A MAN..