Japan’s descent into stagnation is an infamous economic tale known around the world. But at its start, in the early 1990s, it wasn’t abundantly clear what was happening to what was then the world’s No. 2 economy.
Much to the frustration of Japan’s Ministry of Finance, there was a coterie of keen financial analysts who warned that the country’s debt problem was a whole lot worse than advertised, and that economic growth wasn’t going to magically make it go away.
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The research also determined that the fiscal wherewithal of local authorities to service their debt had deteriorated by 2020. The conclusion: “It’s clear that local governments are compelled to incur new debts to repay existing ones, which is unsustainable.” Given how growth momentum has deteriorated in recent years, the debt-servicing ability is likely “even lower now,” according to Li.
Once unity is lost and u have left wing China , right wing China, every thing will be lost ..and that is exactly what America want China to do. What America want is for China to be poor like 1980 and happy to produce cheap shoes for America and nothing else
China’s total debt rises to over 300 per cent of GDP as Beijing loosens borrowing curbs to boost growth -The figure has risen to over US$40 trillion, some 15 per cent of overall global debt, according to data released by the Institute of International Finance -China has eased its deleveraging campaign in a bid to aid the slowing economy amid the trade war with the United States
China is developing country with Gdp per capita of only 13000 SD, same as Malaysia but infrastructure far advanced than any thing in western countries.. China does not stop here and will go far ahead.
The above topic has already been answered in Quora in better detail. "We will find that China's government debt only accounts for 21% of GDP, which is very healthy. This means that the Chinese government can repay these debts at any time without even affecting their foreign exchange reserves and gold reserves. The Japanese government's debt is as high as 220% of GDP. Does this mean that the Japanese government is about to go bankrupt?"
Countries do not cancel national debts denominated in local currency. It is not possible just because it is run by CCP. Cancelling debts will send shockwaves to a list of creditors. They include banks, investment funds, national savings and ordinary citizens. It will cause panic, bank runs, social unrests and political upheaval. A public uprising and turmoil which the CCP will be unable to control. The spillover of debt cancellations will rapidly infect the secondary financial sectors like properties, mortgages, Peers to Peers Lendinds etc. It will spin like a hurricane beyond control.
For every RMB debt, there is a RMB creditor waiting to be paid back. Debt is still a debt. And that 4 letter word needs to be repaid. It doesn't matter where it is or which country you are. In China, Brazil or Argentina , debt is still a debt. You can also ask Anwar to cancell the RM1.5 Trillion nation debt tomorrow. Just wait to see what will happen to your KLSE shares prices you owned on Monday.
If the CCP want to pump in money from Beijing to chunking, u can stop the CCP meh? If the CCP want to cancel debts from chunking to Beijing, u can stop Beijing meh?
China's Long-term Economic Outlook Weakens Bloomberg Economics sees GDP growth slowing more than previously thought
In much the same way, Japan’s economic growth by the 1990s was insufficient to simply pay off the mountain of debt created during the bubble years, based on real-estate collateral valued at entirely unrealistic prices. Tokyo’s response was to guide banks into offering companies forbearance, and avoiding US-style bankruptcies with all the social and labor carnage they entail.
japan? Japan is a different set of problems. Japan is not able to say no to Washington and commit harakiri with the Plaza accord and dismantling of its own chip industry.
and how big is domestic economy of japan any way? can have China dual circulation strategy?
If the CCP want to pump in money from Beijing to chunking, u can stop the CCP meh? If the CCP want to cancel debts from chunking to Beijing, u can stop Beijing meh?
some more, property taxes in China are very low, and property taxes in America are very high. If they want to increase city revenue, plenty of tools they can use to increase revenue.
Another piece of Japan’s response was to keep lowering interest rates to encourage new borrowing to fund new investments. The trouble with that was the appetite to extend or take on new credit was limited. Low rates came to be seen as a symptom of Japan’s diminished potential.
Jeff. Why are u looking for financial engineering ? China is advancing not by financial engineering but by upgrading science and technology and Xi jinping make in China 2025. .... America is running scared but nothing America can do.
EV is a good example. China will disrupt existing industries. if America don't want to buy, China and rest of the world is a big enough market. And China will continue to produce stuffs that solve people's real problems at an affordable price
It’s no coincidence that these days China’s interest rates are also heading south. This newsletter noted last year how lower rates on savings accounts risked undermining confidence among Chinese households. Late last month, China’s big state banks cut those rates further.
China will continue to produce stuffs that benefit the world and increasing with own brands and own technology.. that is how China escapes from the middle income trap
China’s benchmark 10-year government bond yields this week approached the modern record low of under 2.5%—hit during the initial Covid-19 crisis. In Japan’s case, 10-year yields sank through 2.5% in 1997 and never looked back.
Li argues that there’s a three-part solution for China’s local debtload, which his analysis showed amounted to 88% of gross domestic product as of 2020. That’s notably larger than previous estimates by the International Monetary Fund. (It would have been all the bigger in Li’s worst-case estimate of $14 trillion worth of debt.)
China debts. City debts............... people can see where the money go to, people can touch it, benefit from it.
America debts...............GDP 10 trillion usd at 2000 to 24 trillion now, US Federal debts at 34 trillion usd now, not even counting city debts....where did the money go? most of it disappeared into wars of all sorts. people benefit from any of that?
First would be to have the central government simply take over part of the local authorities’ obligations. There have been signs in recent months that President Xi Jinping’s team is indeed thinking along these lines, though policymakers in Beijing have long sought to maintain the central government’s relatively low debt-to-GDP ratio.
Li’s second step is to extend the duration of debt, something that is under way through a variety of swap programs—some at the local level and some involving the central bank.
The third component, however, would require a significant ideological shift. That would involve selling off state assets. In Japan, that was one component of the eventual solution to its own bad-debt mountain under Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, in the years before the global financial crisis. (A policy option Tokyo is looking at again.)
But far from embracing privatization, Xi’s regime has tilted instead toward elevating the role of the state. It seems hard to envision a dose of 1980s Thatcherism to reduce debt and energize the private sector.
Which all magnifies the risk of a dynamic in China’s financial system that limits the economy’s potential in coming years.
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Japan’s descent into stagnation is an infamous economic tale known around the world. But at its start, in the early 1990s, it wasn’t abundantly clear what was happening to what was then the world’s No. 2 economy. Much to the frustration of Japan’s Ministry of Finance, there was a coterie of keen financial analysts who warned that the country’s debt problem was a whole lot worse than advertised, and that economic growth wasn’t going to magically make it go away.