China expected its Sinopharm vaccines to be the lynchpin of the country’s vaccine diplomacy programme – an easily transported dose that would protect not just Chinese citizens but also much of the developing world. In a bid to win goodwill, China has donated 13.3 million Sinopharm doses to other countries, according to Bridge Beijing, a consultancy that tracks China’s impact on global health.
Instead, the company, which has made two varieties of coronavirus vaccines, is facing mounting questions about the inoculations. First, there was the lack of transparency with its late-stage trial data. Now, Seychelles, the world’s most vaccinated nation, has had a surge in cases despite much of its population being inoculated with Sinopharm.
For the 56 countries counting on the Sinopharm shot to help them halt the pandemic, the news is a setback. For months, public health experts had focused on trying to close the access gap between rich and poorer nations. Now, scientists are warning that developing nations that choose to use the Chinese vaccines, with their relatively weaker efficacy rates, could end up lagging behind countries that choose vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. That gap could allow the pandemic to continue in countries that have fewer resources to fight it.
Economic benefit ...............
“You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they’re going to be living with the disease long-term,” said Raina MacIntyre, who heads the biosecurity programme at the Kirby Institute of the University of New South Wales in Sydney. “The choice of vaccine matters.”
“You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they’re going to be living with the disease long-term,” said Raina MacIntyre
Ask yourself if without the sinopharm vaccine, could the situation in Seychelles would be even worse leh ??
Do not let the western media manipulate us loh!
If the western country so concern, why they did not donate pfizer & moderna vaccine to Seychelles in the 1st place leh ?
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 5:03 PM | Report Abuse
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China expected its Sinopharm vaccines to be the lynchpin of the country’s vaccine diplomacy programme – an easily transported dose that would protect not just Chinese citizens but also much of the developing world. In a bid to win goodwill, China has donated 13.3 million Sinopharm doses to other countries, according to Bridge Beijing, a consultancy that tracks China’s impact on global health.
Instead, the company, which has made two varieties of coronavirus vaccines, is facing mounting questions about the inoculations. First, there was the lack of transparency with its late-stage trial data. Now, Seychelles, the world’s most vaccinated nation, has had a surge in cases despite much of its population being inoculated with Sinopharm.
For the 56 countries counting on the Sinopharm shot to help them halt the pandemic, the news is a setback. For months, public health experts had focused on trying to close the access gap between rich and poorer nations. Now, scientists are warning that developing nations that choose to use the Chinese vaccines, with their relatively weaker efficacy rates, could end up lagging behind countries that choose vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. That gap could allow the pandemic to continue in countries that have fewer resources to fight it.
Economic benefit ...............
“You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they’re going to be living with the disease long-term,” said Raina MacIntyre, who heads the biosecurity programme at the Kirby Institute of the University of New South Wales in Sydney. “The choice of vaccine matters.”
It was never make available to all the 3rd world country like Seychelles mah!
If the western country so concern, why they did not donate pfizer & moderna vaccine to Seychelles in the 1st place leh ?
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 5:11 PM | Report Abuse
“You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they’re going to be living with the disease long-term,” said Raina MacIntyre,
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you dont want to end up as breeding ground for new variants...
do it right when you have choice - Malaysia should go all out for Pfizer , else they are wasting resources and letting them self be experimented
Mexico plans to start a late-stage clinical trial this month for a COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by China using similar technology to shots from Moderna (MRNA.O) and Pfizer (PFE.N), foreign minister Marcelo Ebrard said on Tuesday.
The phase III trial for the shot from China's Walvax Biotechnology (300142.SZ) using messenger RNA (mRNA) technology will start on May 30 and involve 6,000 volunteers, Ebrard said in a Tweet.
Walvax is working with the Academy of Military Science (AMS) and Suzhou Abogen Biosciences to jointly develop the shot known as ARCoV or ARCoVax, China's first mRNA vaccine to enter Phase III trials.
The shot could be stored at 2-8 degrees Celsius for six months, a much less stringent temperature requirement than shots from western rivals, an AMS researcher leading the vaccine project said in April during a presentation at a vaccine event.
can u get 64m dose of pfizer or not for msia or not leh ?
Even europe they r still scrambling for pfizer vaccine mah!
Are msia prepare to wait until 2024 to be fully vaccinated meh ?
Be practical lah, take up whatever vaccine available 1st...u may think off...how to chose the best vaccine in 2 to 3 yrs time...when u r prepare to pay for your own vaccine loh!
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 6:03 PM | Report Abuse
malaysia with such a small population, can afford and should not compromise...
they should for get about pleasing china for diplomatic ties
Israel can procure for the whole nation, Malaysia should f**king damn do it
they should stop prostituting them self
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 6:06 PM | Report Abuse
raider & uncle Koon, i suggest you all go for China's vaccine (due to your blood patriotism & ego)...and give chance for others in Malaysia for Pfizer
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 6:08 PM | Report Abuse
now that the data is available, it would be pure stup**ty to go for china vaccines
Posted by probability > May 13, 2021 6:14 PM | Report Abuse
or even astrazeneca or any other having lesser efficacy...avoid it...
every drop of efficacy matters a lot on this battle
Every country has to try to get to their herd immunity or at least somewhere close to that fast, by whichever route, rather than wasting time just hanging around waiting for the best most ideal most perfect vaccine
Israel & some other rich countries different situation la, they got both the funds & the networking, so they can even afford to reject astrazeneca vaccine completely now
i am not saying reject what you already have....i am advocating for the govn to make conscious all out effort to buy pfizer for the whole malaysian population NOW...
i want govn to realize that - and it damn urgent and important
cause waiting for other vaccine to work is stup**ty ..a waste of time
Well, at the present moment, we are "on the way" to better understand how these various vaccines work. TIME WILL TELL AND GIVE US A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE when vaccinations involve MORE SAMPLES (PEOPLE). So far, we can get quite a number of early success (effectiveness, efficiency) rates, however these rates are just "first-hand understanding" of the vaccines. For the wider population, the data is NOT FIXED or STATIC - and IT CAN CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME. There are MANY FACTORS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN COMPARING THE VACCINES. The various reports need to be properly "peer-reviewed" for confirmation. Though we can compare the results on the "surface level," it is not a straightforward or direct (apple-to-apple) comparison since various vaccines are used in different covid-19 situations - giving different levels of risks.
A vaccine might work less in one country while it might work effectively in another country. One can read up the news online and see for himself. People just get vaccines that are available to them, however covid protection (awareness) must still be exercised. The previous clinical trials (the same could apply to other vaccines) only serve as a "surface, early, rough check or guideline" - and it is not something absolute or final (which is applicable to everyone). The initial number (data) doesn't lie, however the data is only applicable in its own limited setting (samples) and environment. The data can change (either up or down) in different situations when more vaccinated population (samples) are observed - this process is still on-going.
The way the data is understood - for example "the meaning of effectiveness or efficacy rate" could be different in different research interpretations. One needs to look up at the "more detailed reports of these figures."
The same vaccine could respond differently to different covid risks, environments, variants and human factors. It would be good if those who are involved in research can come out with a table showing "the different vaccine types BETTER OR BEST SUITING for a particular covid variant, environment, country and/or type (group) of people.
This would make vaccinations more effective, efficient and helpful. It would take some time to come to this position. We just hope everything will recover soon.....
people like you discouraging people with unfounded fear lor...the odds are very small... you can see israel a nation with 10million, deaths counts is very small lor....
Posted by GrowingRich > May 14, 2021 12:02 PM | Report Abuse
Israel probing link between Pfizer jab & heart problem in men under 30
Lets be fair there are also down side in pfizer as in all other vaccine mah!
Do u want the truth or not ah ?
Posted by probability > May 14, 2021 12:04 PM | Report Abuse
people like you discouraging people with unfounded fear lor...the odds are very small... you can see israel a nation with 10million, deaths counts is very small lor....
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Israel probing link between Pfizer jab & heart problem in men under 30
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Posted by probability > 2021-05-13 16:23 | Report Abuse
China expected its Sinopharm vaccines to be the lynchpin of the country’s vaccine diplomacy programme – an easily transported dose that would protect not just Chinese citizens but also much of the developing world. In a bid to win goodwill, China has donated 13.3 million Sinopharm doses to other countries, according to Bridge Beijing, a consultancy that tracks China’s impact on global health.
Instead, the company, which has made two varieties of coronavirus vaccines, is facing mounting questions about the inoculations. First, there was the lack of transparency with its late-stage trial data. Now, Seychelles, the world’s most vaccinated nation, has had a surge in cases despite much of its population being inoculated with Sinopharm.
For the 56 countries counting on the Sinopharm shot to help them halt the pandemic, the news is a setback. For months, public health experts had focused on trying to close the access gap between rich and poorer nations. Now, scientists are warning that developing nations that choose to use the Chinese vaccines, with their relatively weaker efficacy rates, could end up lagging behind countries that choose vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. That gap could allow the pandemic to continue in countries that have fewer resources to fight it.
Economic benefit
...............
“You really need to use high-efficacy vaccines to get that economic benefit because otherwise they’re going to be living with the disease long-term,” said Raina MacIntyre, who heads the biosecurity programme at the Kirby Institute of the University of New South Wales in Sydney. “The choice of vaccine matters.”