Hah! I already predicted last month when it was just below $5 that a sharp drop was long overdue & so I refused to chase to add even a single share to my existing holdings...it could be lim c ock tah i's family clandestinely UNLOADING like what they did last yr: release fake news about TauRx & then DUMPED 20 mil shrs to naive newbies & other funds @ 5.20...I trust no one but myself, not dragon328, not analysts, not directors who are all likely to have their own ulterior motives!
I heard some of you, unhappy with such unreasonable tumble in Genting share price… James promises will not dispose Genting shares, keep the remaining 95%, continue support Genting Berhad and will let the profits run… Cheers! Happy Weekends!
@dompeilee, you don't have to trust me, just trust the numbers and do your own analysis and judgement.
When I wrote my 1st article on Genting Bhd, it was trading at RM4.46. It went on to rally to a high of RM5.10 or 14% gain.
My target price for Genting was set based on my reasonable valuation of its various subsidiaries, and a lot of value needs to be unlocked from Resorts World Las Vegas through a US listing, from Empire Resorts once it wins a full-fledged casino license in New York, and from TauRx when it gets approval progressively from the authorities in the US, UK, Canada and Europe.
Even before it unlocks the massive value in these entities, its stakes in Genting Singapore is already worth more than its entire market capitalisation. Furthermore, Genting Singapore itself is grossly undervalued compared to regional peers.
Enough is said and everybody knows Genting is undervalued and it really depends on the management how to unlock them at the right time. We just need to have the patience for them to do the right things and for the various subsidiaries to pursue interests in own areas. Each of these takes time, eg. New York casino license tender will take several months and TauRx may need time to talk to the various authorities in different countries.
As for the sharp drop of Genting share price today on heavy volume, I am not too sure why it happened so.
It all started to happen when AI said the government would not implement GST in 2023, then all sorts of analysts and economists started to chip in and talk about other tax avenues for the government to increase its tax revenue, such as an extension of the prosperity tax, inheritance tax, tax on dividend, capital gain tax etc as written by a CIMB analyst.
From another angle, there are 2 call warrants issued by CIMB on Genm and Genting expiring end of this month. Perhaps the issuing bank is doing some tricks so as to settle these call warrants at zero value.
But again, share price movements on any given day is too hard to predict or explain. At the end of the day, fundamentals prevail.
@dragon328 .... right said on "end of the day fundamentals prevail". I believe at 4.00 the price embodied the covid scenario possible prolong, but post covid 4.50 looks like a sure bet, and so it went there, but over shot to well above 5.00 which is premature.... but possible after another 2 Q results assuming the growth trend on last Q continues, therefore the price today is yes a little disappointing, but surely underpriced moving forward assuming the last Q growth maintained
ya we need to see for at least another 2 quarters of results of Genting and Genting Singapore. One quarter of result for 4Q itself will not speak much.
In fact, I am looking at past 10-15 year performance to be able to judge for how much it may recover.
U guys are forgetting that it was the founder's son who started the spiral down for the stock when he tried to 'embezzle' GenM's cash to save his floundering Empire Resorts( note that when it opened in early '18, the bet look secure as the economy was still on the high tide so GenM was never offered any participation). When the bet clearly turned sour by Jul '19, he dragged that co. into his private mess & started the downfall of Gent.
What a shameless creep...treating minority s/hrs like little children who don't understand what he was doing underhandedly.At the time, I wrote to 5 / 6 funds to band together to call for an EGM but none of them replied...instead they chose to RUNNNN & so the price crashed below $6 & has never gone above that level in the last 4 years... Fortunately, the Universe delivered swift karma & his GentingHK WENT BANKRUPT!!!! HAH! As I predicted, Empire has continued to be a black hole for the co...4 years on...
Please allow for a 50% discount for no credibility & no integrity of LKT!
after deducting the "personal fcuktor", the fair price is less than RM1.00 RM0.88 like I said already everything has a price and a price for everything
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U guys are forgetting that it was the founder's son who started the spiral down for the stock when he tried to 'embezzle' GenM's cash to save his floundering Empire Resorts( note that when it opened in early '18, the bet look secure as the economy was still on the high tide so GenM was never offered any participation). When the bet clearly turned sour by Jul '19, he dragged that co. into his private mess & started the downfall of Gent.
What a shameless creep...treating minority s/hrs like little children who don't understand what he was doing underhandedly.At the time, I wrote to 5 / 6 funds to band together to call for an EGM but none of them replied...instead they chose to RUNNNN & so the price crashed below $6 & has never gone above that level in the last 4 years... Fortunately, the Universe delivered swift karma & his GentingHK WENT BANKRUPT!!!! HAH! As I predicted, Empire has continued to be a black hole for the co...4 years on...
Please allow for a 50% discount for no credibility & no integrity of LKT!
When investing in the stock market, extreme optimism or pessimism should be avoided. Extreme optimism or pessimism can result in irrationality. Prudence is the name of the game!!!
19-21 BILLION nett debt incurring compounding 8-10% interest charges...more than offsets the holding of GenS...As recently as 2017 it was still 5 billion net cash & STILL there was a huge discount of $2 or more / shr!
Real facts as below:- 1. Genting Berhad is a net cash company with cash/ total current liability of 2.70!
2. Genting Berhad has lucky 7 turbocharged engines.
Turbocharged Engine 1: Genting Singapore, transforming to RW 2.0, one of the world best resorts for tourists to check in.
Turbocharged Engine 2: Genting Malaysia, holding the monopoly casino business in Malaysia. With the opening of the new Sky-world theme park + higher rental fees + higher hotel rate per night, definitely will generate more profits to Genting.
Turbocharged engine 3: High palm oil price, bringing more profits to Genting Plantation and Genting Berhad.
Turbocharged Engine 4: High turnover of visitors to Genting premium outlets with higher parking rate and rental fees will bring higher profits to Genting Plantation/ Genting Berhad.
Turbocharged Engine 5: High oil and gas price will bring more profits to Genting berhad!
Turbocharged Engine 6: TauRx, awaiting FDA approval for Alzheimer treatment.
Turbocharged Engine 7: Genting Berhad is going to auction off Miami property, which it acquired in 2011 for US$236 million. This Miami property worth more than US$1000 million at current market value.
All in all, Genting is your Best of the best investment in 2023. Creme de la creme.
To all Genting shareholders, I wish you all, Happy Investing in Genting Berhad with glamorous returns!
Big question is the correction Genting specific or wider market concern? If you at the markets there is market wise correction. That said I w worry about insiders playing dirty games running into result season. Whilst there is normally a trading ban, they find a way to dispose big ..this has happened frequently, that is why a big single investor is a problem ….as they can dispose off any time …I have no doubt as to Gentings prospects particularly wen you add TAURx into the equation, as many medical experts say that the news is positive. The big question remains how the majority shareholder and his band of syndicates behave between now and then!
Is the bearish structural completed? ( 10 minutes) If completed. Will smart $ continue 2 manipulated the price to 138 fib @ 478? ( taking out weak holder) before rebounding again! O rebound at 472? (Daytrading)
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Posted by i3lurker > 2023-02-17 16:31 | Report Abuse
not to worry
no worries
I will order the Gobermen to increase gambling taxes to build more hospitals