Posted by TorchBearer > 2024-07-01 22:54 | Report Abuse

Citizens and residents of Malaysia, we must support them, but we also accept meritocracy. Regardless of race or region, we can guarantee a place in matriculation for them. Anwar said that although the decision recognises excellence regardless of race and background https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/07/01/meritocracy-in-matriculation-student-intake-says-anwar

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50 comment(s). Last comment by The_JQuestion 2024-07-06 15:43

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-01 23:21 | Report Abuse

Yes , finally what others has failed to do. UMNO that has been in power for more than 50 years , this was one of the saddest failure that has plagued our talents
Good and straight A students not getting what they deserved , they had to resort to sth less and aiming for less. I had seen it happen , so much potential wasted.
Despite all the controversies, PH has managed to set things right once again. They have set many things right , not PN who were busy siphoning and being corrupt in order to keep up with sheraton move.
Meritocracy is the way forward ! those that deserve the merits they earn ! Give them the chance and let them show us the future !

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-02 06:29 | Report Abuse

What meritocracy when matriculation programme was meant to be a backdoor to enter local university?

THE matriculation programme was meant to be a backdoor to help more Malay students get into university, said Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

“We decided to have matriculation because we found that Malays do not have a higher certificate and they could enter universities. So, we provided a backdoor for that.

“It was entirely meant to be a backdoor (entry) for Malays but now other people do much better but they cannot get into matriculation.

“It is simply because they did not do much better that we had to create matriculation for the Malays

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2024-07-02 07:54 | Report Abuse

ni PH suka main belakang

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-02 08:18 | Report Abuse

Zaid Ibrahim
@zaidibrahim
Anwar, stop being generous, just be fair

The announcement from PMX guarantees that non-bumiputras will have a place in matriculation courses if they have 10 As. How many non-bumi have 10 As? What about 9/ 8As or 7 As

I feel sorry, especially for the poorer Indians and Chinese families. Ninety per cent of the places in Matriculation are already reserved for Bumis. Their children have to get 10As to qualify. Why can't this government be more sensible and fair to non-Malays? Could you not give them more places?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-02 08:44 | Report Abuse

Is Anwar serious in talking about and understand the meaning of balancing meritocracy with the principle of justice as fairness?

No one will object if you give an everage students from ill equip and poor rural school into a well equip with best teacher and prepared them to take a unify univetsity entry exam (STPM or A level). But to give a 90% quoto with a lower university enter exam and then proudly announce to the whole world we already abolish quoto sysyem with meritrocracy system for university intake is institutionalisation of cheating.

Anwar, in a Facebook post today, said in a country which implements a system based on meritocracy, the government emphasised the importance of balancing meritocracy with the principle of justice as fairness, as expressed by Harvard scholar, John Rawls.

“This matter needs to be understood by some elite groups in the city, who talk loudly about meritocracy, but do not think whether it is fair to let students in Manik Urai or Kapit compete with students in Malay College Kuala Kangsar (MCKK) or Sekolah Menengah Jenis Kebangsaan Chung Ling, which are equipped with the best infrastructure.

He cautioned against implementing meritocracy without consideration for fairness, as the poor and marginalised will remain in such a state.

“This is ‘The Tyranny of Merit’ as argued by the American scholar, Michael Sandel,” he said.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 12:19 | Report Abuse

“This is ‘The Tyranny of Merit’ as argued by the American scholar, Michael Sandel,” he said.


that means chinese must not aim to grab every thing.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 12:23 | Report Abuse

anyway, malaysian chinese must not think of Form Six .as Malaysia's Gao Kao............it is not

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2024-07-02 12:30 | Report Abuse

Don't get carried away.
It is insincere.
Which non-bumi can get 10As? How many? Why that condition?
What about those who get lesser As?

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 12:34 | Report Abuse

Posted by DickyMe > 37 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Don't get carried away.
It is insincere.
Which non-bumi can get 10As? How many? Why that condition?
What about those who get lesser As?

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the whole point is that Malaysian Chinese parents who have to depend on the government will always be losers.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 12:35 | Report Abuse

the whole point is that Malaysian Chinese parents who have to depend on the government will always be losers.

nothing can rescue Chinese parent except be rich.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 12:41 | Report Abuse

please do not treat SPM and STPM as Malaysia's gao kao. Its not.

these are very badly designed tests to reward lazy and s.tupid students...........not hard working intelligent students.

Posted by eastern_joy > 2024-07-02 15:14 | Report Abuse

I heard UKM still having matriculation for Bumi only, not open at all...so they need some where to masuk Uni, get certificate, get into govt service, talking/signing position, easy money. Everybody want this path. This is the high potential of Msia. :D

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 15:37 | Report Abuse

Look at the bright side...at least the government has approved many private universities.

So it's clear, it's natural Chinese go private , malays to government. Don't fight what is natural

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 17:43 | Report Abuse

anyway this is era of voter dissatisfaction, not just malaysia

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-02 20:27 | Report Abuse

THATS what PN want... however , gov today is of multicultural... and anwar already confirm that , this is big difference
1. Percentage of Non -bumi with straight A > bumi
2. those straight As now get to go on to higher levels , without having to fight for spots like before
3. they will have bigger and variety of unis / scholarships to get into , in/out country under gov scholarships
Funny , still so race centric instead of merits . what era are u guys from? still wan that for malaysia. Why is malaysia so backwards i wonder. Sometimes, these ppl ask themself that question
What a world we live in , where are u tobby

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-02 20:35 | Report Abuse

dulu masa lain , dulu masa abang susah ... the mentality has to change. the same corrupted ways have to change . Malaysia is coming to a new age . Sabah sarawak getting their rights. It's just the right thing to do .
Let's welcome good moves , forget the old ways and agenda , this is a good point for ALL , a future for all MALAYSIANs !

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2024-07-02 21:17 | Report Abuse

Deng Xiaoping : "Black cat or white cat, if it can catch mice, it's a good cat."
Pmx : "I dont care if it yellow or black cat catch mice, it's a good cat if it is brown cat."

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-02 23:19 | Report Abuse

before win, reduce petrol price
after win, reduce subsidy.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-03 07:27 | Report Abuse

Subsidy can never be good.
People need to learn there is No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

The first time you give somebody something for free you create appreciation.
The second time you give the same person something for free you create anticipation.
The third time- expectation.
The fourth time- entitlement
The fifth time- dependency.
When you don't give it again , it can often lead to resentment that overnight grows into hatred.
Be charitable but be wise.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-03 14:21 | Report Abuse

they need a plan to cut subsidy gradually and with markers.

instead they go and make things even more complicated.

Posted by muzammil80 > 2024-07-03 15:23 | Report Abuse

PH will lose the next PRU and no more UMNO...madani can't depends on UMNO for Malay support anymore...all Malay votes goes to PN..

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-03 20:07 | Report Abuse

most students take 9 subjects................to get 10A , Chinese students must score A1 in Chinese subject...................and this they can control and limit. useless piece of announcement by Anwar

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2024-07-03 21:13 | Report Abuse

cannot trust Pmx!
GE15 jgn undi Pmx & PH!

Posted by eastern_joy > 2024-07-04 11:33 | Report Abuse

Cakap putar belit, in the end, it is the same soup, just call it different name only, to have "fairness and merit" = no change right? Status quo?

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-04 11:57 | Report Abuse

misinformation 9 A + 1 subject can be account / bible / tamil / chinese / literature / ETC ETC
CAnt trust Pmx but excited to choose most Corrupted backdoor GOV ... ini la Malaysia , wan to chase away all foreign companies so that bursa can go reverse all the way ... some peopel are afraid of growth , when u give them goods they reject ... Malaysia very weird , like to gostan and backwards HJAHAHA

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-04 12:00 | Report Abuse

even good news like this can turn sour ... our most excellent student , u think they dont deserve it? previously , they didnt . nobody cared ... just like all the above but dont worry the uncorrupted has spoken , Give them the support they deserve
Set things straight , because banyak orang sudah tak lurus HAHAHAH <<<

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-04 15:52 | Report Abuse

It is well known only 1% gets A1 in Chinese ..they make it this way

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-04 16:35 | Report Abuse

Every thing is politics. Even grating of papers is politics

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-04 16:37 | Report Abuse

The message. No one should rely on Malaysia government

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2024-07-05 08:01 | Report Abuse

Pmx last time talk talk big about meritocracy, now we know he all bluff one

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2024-07-05 08:01 | Report Abuse

GE15 we no vote PH & pmx

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-05 16:49 | Report Abuse

equality or equity.?

that depends on competitive advantage

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-05 18:15 | Report Abuse

education and health ? a lot of u dont seem like logical people anymore. i wonder how the real world is like for u all. corporate , everything is numbers hahah
even that also u can politicised... because u have the priviledge while not all can afford education and health
thats one of the beauty in malaysia gov btw , really doubt the agendas of ur votes

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-05 21:55 | Report Abuse

Sad that top Chinese students have to choose matriculation when it is designed for zero A students

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-05 21:57 | Report Abuse

This is basta.rdisation of knowledge and studies

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-05 23:41 | Report Abuse

round peg for round holes.

top Chinese students should pursue A levels , not matriculations.

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-06 07:46 | Report Abuse

are u going to pay for that? overseas paper > local paper? Do u know Doctors and many more go through matriculation?
so all go private and overseas with dady mama money like u ?
Sixty-nine non-bumiputera students who scored 10As in SPM this year were among those who were denied entry into the matriculation programme before the government eased racial requirements.
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/710878
Ignoranants and arrogants. .. insensitive. no idea which is worser , 69 students each year would not be elligible ....... calcualte that by 40 years and maybe 100 years for the country if the policy nvr change. STEP UP , stop closing a blind eye like how u were taUGHT.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-06 09:18 | Report Abuse

Now everyone want backdoor.
Know what, if you creat a backdoor to University entry then you need another backdoor for them to graduate and then another backdoor for employment and then another backdoor for promotion and etc.

"If you want to destroy any nation, destroy it's education"

THE matriculation programme was meant to be a backdoor to help more Malay students get into university, said Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

“We decided to have matriculation because we found that Malays do not have a higher certificate and they could enter universities. So, we provided a backdoor for that.

“It was entirely meant to be a backdoor (entry) for Malays but now other people do much better but they cannot get into matriculation.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-06 09:26 | Report Abuse

By the way I am not talking about those 10A holders but those that were not qualified to do certain toughest professional courses but get in through backdoor.

Posted by Balian de Ibelin > 2024-07-06 09:41 | Report Abuse

no need study or schooling

Kak Ros claimed she got RM Billions by selling nasi lemak since primary school to buy Birkin bags

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Posted by godhand > 2024-07-06 10:24 | Report Abuse

By the way I am not talking about those 10A holders but those that were not qualified to do certain toughest professional courses but get in through backdoor.

The day Malaysia will truly change is when it change its education. Let's do it step by step this is the hardest and also most crucial part. If they do it fair the minority will flock at the top. This is not something the mass want to see.

u like it or not our education is a political chess piece.

godhand

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Posted by godhand > 2024-07-06 10:24 | Report Abuse

come join philip group la so we can chit chat😁

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2024-07-06 12:53 | Report Abuse

Hookwink.

Invest into the future of these top students.

Stop talking rubbish.

Implement the right policies.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2024-07-06 12:54 | Report Abuse

Mahathir says backdoor for cacat

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-06 14:31 | Report Abuse

Sixty-nine non-bumiputera students who scored 10As in SPM this year were among those who were denied entry into the matriculation programme before the government eased racial requirements.

Be resourceful and you can easily find a scholarship or study loan to do the course you want.

My second son get into NUS after a private Taylor's preU study.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2024-07-06 14:39 | Report Abuse

Study online, choose your syllabus, specialisation.
Cheaper easier. Spend wisely and work smart.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2024-07-06 14:40 | Report Abuse

Of course, studying online need STRICT discipline because you are on your own.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2024-07-06 14:47 | Report Abuse

To be a professional you need to take professional examination to qualify as professional.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2024-07-06 15:03 | Report Abuse

Not necessary!
Professional certification is just a revenue source for the government.
Singapore certifies even Janitors because it has no natural resources.

The_JQuestion

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Posted by The_JQuestion > 2024-07-06 15:43 | Report Abuse

yes and matriculation is one of the main ways to get there... and 95% of these straight As student will become professionals in their field... now their spots are guaranteed instead of having to go through many obstacles which can lead them nowhere

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