Posted by okooi32 > 2021-07-14 21:18 | Report Abuse

No wonder......

Posted by samheong78 > 2021-07-15 01:06 | Report Abuse

Suddenly thought of the previous financial crisis when people all around the world debated if the goverment should bail out Lehman Brother instead of letting it go bankrupt.

Posted by Jaya26 > 2021-07-15 04:53 | Report Abuse

Buy Maybank don’t worry

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 07:45 | Report Abuse

For long term: banks mostly owned by gov friendly entities, and it will be back to normal ( if conditions imposed), else how do KWAP. EPF TH etc provide dividend. If conditions on local bursa becomes not conducive, most will venture into US/world markets as evidenced by even me who has started putting some amounts at timed intervals into US. I would not have touched foreign if malaysian stocks had good returns, Few yrs back, not much facilities to trade & access. SO, just like if epf gives lousy returns , most will also take out those available funds to more managable/acceptable returns.
Remember, funds invested helps the state, but if people remove it from circulation ( either keeping it inside pillows or overseas, it will be a state's loss. Just my 2 sen.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 07:46 | Report Abuse

There must be a trade off, so as to have a win-win situation.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 07:49 | Report Abuse

Anyways , if below 8, definitely will topup some.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 07:56 | Report Abuse

But seriously, wouldnt trimming the civil service and reducing big ticket useless HSR etc and ministers salary and pensions contribute positvely and do note billions songlap by certain group who usually come into power and raid the coffers and they ddint even pay tax. Wonder how they were delibrately missed and no action take for so many years but only with many leaks did they attempt to take actions. Maybe should start with all the politically stock on bursa from overseas independent accessors.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 07:59 | Report Abuse

What's more, even the Sime Drby examiners resigned, if these people faithless, what can be done? nothing

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 08:00 | Report Abuse

The above was from a local news yesterday.

Posted by samheong78 > 2021-07-15 09:50 | Report Abuse

Hi tollebunamith. I'm also toying with the idea if investing in US. You know any channel that provides real time data and at least 3 levels of market depth data. Preferably channel that charge the lower brokerage fees who provides the above capability.

Posted by keatdash73 > 2021-07-15 10:20 | Report Abuse

maybank steady ... not affected

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 13:23 | Report Abuse

Sam: i am right now using robo like Wahed & stashaway to test only as i was not confident and in the early period i went in with 5 figures.. lost some and withdraw half. So my knowledge is limited. I dont do crypto and my risk is moderarte only as i want to preserve my capital and grow moderately.

I am currently researching direct investment in US , but i have to be careful as transaction loss. double currency conversion and holding fees, tax and hidden cost are my worries. As i feel small amounts not significant and big amounts makes me worry .

And mind too that a superbull run has occured in Dow and i am afraid i am too late and might catch a bear market or retraction as i am risk averse. It it keeps going up ( which i think is not probable) the u are lucky. And i dont have the luxery or dollar cost averaging. SO i guess i am stuck in bursa at this moment.


So i am just starting small and robo is not the way as i found that my investment reurns are not growing much although the us mart is heading towards 35k. And compared with the 4.06 to 1 MYR now it is heading towards 4.20 and i expect weaker myr due to stability.

Anyway this is only my opinion and perhaps other sifus here can advise and give valued opinions.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 13:26 | Report Abuse

And do be aware some thoughts of taxing bank and gloves, and tiered divs on epf savings will produce different effects. Cant see the future, so i guess we just have to take risk and take one day at a time.

And bussiness and pandemic arent helpful either. So , wish u guys luck..

Posted by okooi32 > 2021-07-15 19:02 | Report Abuse

Maybank just for long term investment stock.
People just talk about dividend ......

Posted by bobvic96 > 2021-07-15 19:24 | Report Abuse

tollebunsmith Sam: i am right now using robo like Wahed & stashaway to test only as i was not confident and in the early period i went in with 5 figures.. lost some and withdraw half. So my knowledge is limited. I dont do crypto and my risk is moderarte only as i want to preserve my capital and grow moderately.

......

And mind too that a superbull run has occured in Dow and i am afraid i am too late and might catch a bear market or retraction as i am risk averse. It it keeps going up ( which i think is not probable) the u are lucky. And i dont have the luxery or dollar cost averaging. SO i guess i am stuck in bursa at this moment.


Tolle, I agree about crypto and being cautious.

As I said I sold 75% of my USA shares as I thought a correction was coming. Had I waited a few days I would have cashed an extra $3k.

To my credit, I have always predicted a crash or correction, it's just that my timing is hopeless.

I suggest you consider keeping your money in MY until the correction comes, you may even get a better exchange rate then - you could look up historical exchange rates with USA market dips.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 21:16 | Report Abuse

Thanks bob.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 21:38 | Report Abuse

u know know why the price is so drepped right now, even though u see some funds sapu, it is because they pakat-pakat and pass thru to KPAP, who suddenly magically appears as a substantial shareholde. They get maybank cos in Aug there will be div distributin of 20-25 sen.. and KPAP will use that to pay the retirees. smart right?

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-15 21:38 | Report Abuse

Direct (units) 542,108,390
Direct (%) 4.64
Indirect (units) 44,339,649
Indirect (%) 0.38
Total (units) 586,448,039
Total (%) 5.02
Date of Notice 15-Jul-2021

Posted by Lawman > 2021-07-15 22:10 | Report Abuse

Ñext dividend is around the corner people. Accumulate around RM7.8x if it dips further and wait to collect another round of dividend ~10-15 cents expected to declare around Merdeka time. Good to have solid dividend paying share in these volatile times.

Posted by angkc11 > 2021-07-15 23:13 | Report Abuse

what is the reliable platform to buy NYSE or sgx

Posted by bobvic96 > 2021-07-16 04:00 | Report Abuse

angkc11 what is the reliable platform to buy NYSE or sgx

You can do this via Maybank's Powerbroker2u: https://www.powerbroking2u.com.my/webcms/default.aspx

Which I have used but the interface is a bit clunky and not the cheapest in terms of charges.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 09:53 | Report Abuse

8.01 .. i think that was insider/special offer for KWAP so cap gains and div yield higer

Posted by JJFinn > 2021-07-16 11:07 | Report Abuse

good morning everyone

Posted by JJFinn > 2021-07-16 11:08 | Report Abuse

tolle : what do you think is a good price to enter at the moment ?

Posted by Lawman > 2021-07-16 12:12 | Report Abuse

Maybank Powerbroker Global Platform charges minimum USD25 per trade for US equities. So for people buying small amounts USD1-2k it won't be worth it to use this platform.

Posted by staypositive > 2021-07-16 13:38 | Report Abuse

Etoro ok I've used it and got back my money in full. TD is ok also but not convenient and their customer srv slow. Etoro got spread but quite small unless crypto

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 14:22 | Report Abuse

thanks for all the info guys, it helps a lot.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 14:30 | Report Abuse

JJFinn: if u mean maybank, i will enter at 8.01-8.02 , park early NUT dont buy a lot as the price might slide if there were unplesant news on banks profit.
If u are looking at long term like 2 to 3 yrs, i will just buy it staggered like 10% now, and it price goes up a bit like 8.20.. buya a bit more, but it if falls beloe 7.0, buy 20-30 % and start loading as it stays around any price bit by bit.. so if run up also u can money, run down also cab top up and when economy shoots up, u will be in front of most.

These people were holding maybank when it was rm9, and also when it was RM10. and most of us here avarage round 7.35-7.55 and some lucky ones at 6.99. If u see MBB at 6.99 something , just sapu like 30%, and go somewhere and dont look at it for a year or two, then come back and see the price.

As a disclaimer, i am not a professional and i dont do any analysis but for my point of view. Any performan of MBB may not be how we expect it to perfom. So risk involved and consult ur rimiser/broker for any financial decision.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 14:31 | Report Abuse

if KWAP can load it at this price why not us? simple logics. LOL

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 14:54 | Report Abuse

and one more sweetener, if all goes well, and i assume moderate profit, we will get a divided of about 15-25 sen at qtr result announcement in Aug and payment in Sept ( usually) so hope for the best and most probably in DRIP form where we get hares at discounted prices If we want in the form of shares * at 5% discount from market price) and we can also forgo the shares in lieu of cash payments. So best of both worlds.

Posted by JJFinn > 2021-07-16 15:52 | Report Abuse

tolle : Thank for the advise. will split in several tranches... No hurry...

Posted by Cslee1215 > 2021-07-16 20:43 | Report Abuse

Sifu tolle, will price drop back 7.80 in September?

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-16 23:15 | Report Abuse

Cslee : the quantum drop will be equal to the amount aid as devidend, as it usually happens in any ex date of dividend. But how the price drifts depends on sentiment and usually as KWAP and EPF want to gorge themselves with cheap shares ( as they did on the 20th drip where they kept the price so low that our drip was at 7.55). Do remember that pakat-pakat/manipulation by big fund manager is normal. But we cannot predict the market too accurately. if we can even a 60% accuracy will make us millions.

The short answer is depends on sentiment, so buy in trances, so you dont miss the boat.

*just my opinion

Posted by Cslee1215 > 2021-07-17 10:38 | Report Abuse

Alrite.

Posted by keatdash73 > 2021-07-19 08:57 | Report Abuse

wah , like this i ma need to sell ?

Posted by keatdash73 > 2021-07-19 08:58 | Report Abuse

i have few lot at RM8 , sifu please enlighten me

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 11:24 | Report Abuse

just my opinion: if get at rm8. very good i will keep for the dividend. I wont sell now if i dont need the money. I will wait when dividend declared and many people rush to buy and price will go up.. if price reach my target, i sell then buy back when it reached my target price on the way down.


Just my opinion and i am just a regular investor. No buy or sell call. COnsult ur remiser/broker and due deligence.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 11:26 | Report Abuse

If 1 or few sen no need to buy or sell as the risk is not worth it.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 11:31 | Report Abuse

If buy 8 sell 8.10 make about RM20 for investing RM8040... even if buy 100k shares also not worth it as i kira loss of oppurtunity cost.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 11:52 | Report Abuse

Actually all those prices you see ar agent controlled prices and if u are smart , during off season period when they offer cheap, buy and keep as there is no expiry date adn used by date. LOL

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 11:53 | Report Abuse

There is no imitation or duplicate product to fear. Hahahahaha

Posted by staypositive > 2021-07-19 12:19 | Report Abuse

As long as not warrant, can keep for 10 20 years also no problem haha

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 12:22 | Report Abuse

Buy at their price sell at their set price. You think unfair, just leave. LOLOLOLO

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 12:24 | Report Abuse

They sell cheap , u cannot ask why, they sell hig price also u cannot ask why..!!!! They keep at this price for 3 months also u keep quit. U blow wat?

Posted by staypositive > 2021-07-19 12:37 | Report Abuse

Should expect a price hike gradually once they announced dividend for next QR. Usual play. 20 cents would be good!

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 15:20 | Report Abuse

There is a big fund king who wants to maintain the price at 8.09 the whole day, deswai u see him add a few lots at a time at 8.09. The moment people buy some he adds more at 8.09... so only if HE wants the price to change , only then the price will change, else maintian at 8.09 cos he has millons of shares and he only wants to sell at 8.09. Wait and see,

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 15:26 | Report Abuse

see , he adds and adds and adds and adds and adds, non stop. You know why, just because he can and i is not his own money.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 15:30 | Report Abuse

since that monkeyheard my comments, he is doing it at 8.08. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 15:37 | Report Abuse

so best thing to do is "do nothing" wait for significant price drop, like 7.80-7.90, then buy in tranches, When the goreng up, make sure u sell all and collect back at the lower price like this now, Should have sold when it was 8.50 and laugh all the way to the bank.

Posted by tollebunsmith > 2021-07-19 15:45 | Report Abuse

now he angry , he want to sell off 8.05