YINSON HOLDINGS BHD

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Last Price

2.57

Today's Change

+0.13 (5.33%)

Day's Change

2.46 - 2.60

Trading Volume

6,548,500


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5,003 comment(s). Last comment by JediMaster1 3 hours ago

Posted by HaroldHuong > 2022-06-03 18:11 | Report Abuse

Thanks, yewnamhung

James Ng

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Posted by James Ng > 2022-06-05 21:42 | Report Abuse

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Brutus

314 posts

Posted by Brutus > 2022-06-07 11:40 | Report Abuse

Today submitted my Rights Issue via Bursa Anywhere. Fast and convenient. See if they approve my excess subscription as well.

kl_guy

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Posted by kl_guy > 2022-06-07 16:17 | Report Abuse

when can we know for right issue . i subscribed excess right.

hng33

20,463 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2022-06-07 17:11 | Report Abuse

Unlikely get excess as right share already fully underwrite by investment bank, it will be 100% fully subscribe.

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-07 18:49 | Report Abuse

confirm 100% fully subscribed. If all things goes according to plan, yinson profit will triple in 2025. Projected free cash flow this calendar year.

rl68

180 posts

Posted by rl68 > 2022-06-08 10:22 | Report Abuse

@DannyArcher,please share link regarding Yinson profit in 5 years..

DannyArcher

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Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-08 14:01 | Report Abuse

It is just an estimate. Currently, 60% of their profit comes from 1 FPSO, which is most probably FPSO JAK. The total value of all existing 6 FPSOs are about RM3.1B.

FPSO Marlim 2 will be ready in 2022 (2.6B)
FPSO Enauta will be ready is 2023 (500m)
FPSO PDB will be ready in 2024 (4B)

Total estimated value for the 3 FPSO is about RM7.2B. By 2025, the estimated total value will be approximately RM10B. A 3X from today's value. Naturally, profit will go up by 3X if everything goes according to plan.

Again, dont take what I wrote as investment advice. Do your own due diligence.

Posted by bullmarket1628 > 2022-06-10 07:13 | Report Abuse

Petronas ups annual capex to RM60 bil, makes first allocation for clean energy
SyafiqahSalim/theedgemarkets.com
June 09, 2022 16:20 pm +08

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/petronas-plans-rm60b-capex-2022-says-group-cfo

KUALA LUMPUR (June 9): Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) is allocating about RM60 billion for capital expenditure (capex) in financial year ending Dec 31, 2022 (FY22) compared with RM30.5 billion a year earlier as the Malaysian national oil company prepares for the resumption of business activities, which were earlier disrupted by Covid-19-driven movement restrictions, and as the group sets aside money for clean energy or non-hydrocarbon-related ventures.
"This year, we expect to almost double that [capex] amount which is RM60 billion, because of catch-up and the return of [business] activities. This is also the time we have to make inroads in some material steps into the non-hydrocarbon side of things," Petronas chief financial officer Liza Mustapha said on Thursday (June 9) at the MIDF Conversations event, which was held virtually.
MIDF group managing director Datuk Charon Mokhzani was the moderator for the event.
Liza said that out of Petronas' planned RM60 billion capex allocation for FY22, about RM40 billion has been earmarked for the oil and gas business besides non-hydrocarbon–related operations while the balance of the capex allocation has been earmarked to finance Petronas Chemicals Group Bhd's (PetChem) wholly-owned subsidiary Petronas Chemicals International B.V. (PCIBV) proposed acquisition of the entire stake in Sweden-based specialty chemicals group Perstorp Holding AB for €1.54 billion (about RM7.02 billion) from Financiere Foret S.A.R.L.
Petronas owns a 64.35% stake in PetChem, according to PetChem's latest annual report.
Looking ahead, Liza said non-hydrocarbon-related income is expected to account for about 30% of Petronas' revenue.
"[About] 30% of our revenue should be coming from something which is not related to hydrocarbons.
"We have to factor in [business] growth, otherwise, we will not be able to manage the energy transition and we will miss our target of achieving [net] zero [carbon] emissions by 2050," she said.
According to her, about 10% of Petronas' RM60 billion capex allocation for FY22 will be earmarked for non-traditional businesses such as specialty chemicals and solar energy.
"Previously, I think there was never a plan on what rate it should be [for the clean energy segment] because there was no allocation from the top. So, it didn't really take off.
"So, we need to rethink our decision on the capital allocation [for the clean energy segment] and put it aside, because if we leave it at that and let them go with the flow, we are going to be a year behind the target again," she said.
Petronas' financials improved in 1QFY22. In a statement on May 31, 2022, Petronas said profit after tax rose to RM23.44 billion in 1QFY22 from RM9.22 billion a year earlier while revenue climbed to RM78.75 billion from RM52.55 billion.
"Despite favourable [first quarter] performance, the high oil and gas prices are expected to remain vulnerable with increased volatility due to geopolitical and macro-economic uncertainties.
"Petronas will continue to strengthen our operational excellence to maximise value creation whilst intensifying our growth and sustainability agenda in Malaysia and internationally,” the company said.

Edited By: Chong Jin Hun

rl68

180 posts

Posted by rl68 > 2022-06-13 19:27 | Report Abuse

@DannyArcher,thanks..

kl_guy

1,607 posts

Posted by kl_guy > 2022-06-17 10:03 | Report Abuse

Walau , already so low still got RSS . Look like RSS seller can hold borrow share up to 1 year duration. Yinson will stay at this level for a long time.

Mabel

24,266 posts

Posted by Mabel > 2022-06-21 10:25 | Report Abuse

More catalyst cumming...

President Biden said on Monday that he was considering seeking a gas tax holiday to ease high fuel prices, a major political dilemma for the White House as it struggles to address record inflation.

Meow Meow Meow

Mabel

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Posted by Mabel > 2022-06-22 21:51 | Report Abuse

In a bull market, anybody with a finger can press the green button and make money. "Analyst" and "Gurus" get to get away even if they are wrong because the trend is on their side.

Bursa Techs Index is currently bearish due to development in Wall Streets. When it comes to bear markets, investors can take comfort from history, which suggests that where there’s a beginning, there’s always an end.

The market now is good for those who want to grow their money, definitely not good for those who want to make money trading.

Those TP are for long term investors. Hence, speculators don't see value in the research as the TP won't be reflected in short term.

Mabel adventure in the EV Investment

Front End - Dnex
OSAT - MPI and Inari
Charging Infra - Tenaga and Yinson
ATE Automation Specialist - Greatech, Vitrox and PentaMaster

Double-digit growth continues unabated & stronger - The tenth consecutive month of double-digit export growth in May 2022 reflect continued double-digit growth in manufacturing exports (May 2022: +27.3% YoY; Apr 2022: +17.3% YoY), agriculture exports (May 2022: +43.9% YoY; Apr 2022: +29.8% YoY) and mining exports (May 2022: +54.9% YoY; Apr 2022: +64.5% YoY). Now you know why Techs Digital Economy is very important in Mabel's Value Investing Portfolio. Beside some of the above companies has multi business like Dnex..

To Our Success !

Meow Meow Meow

Brutus

314 posts

Posted by Brutus > 2022-06-23 22:06 | Report Abuse

Excellent QR! Second highest PAT recorded, just shy of last years 126M. Looking forward to their next QR with dividends. If by tomorrow no refund from the excess rights issue, then good game!

flytothemoon

4,837 posts

Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-23 23:01 | Report Abuse

EPS dropped about half still excellent? the share had been diluted alot

Posted by BursaVulture > 2022-06-23 23:23 | Report Abuse

flytothemoon, no, that is why you should sell your shares and leave yinson alone.

flytothemoon

4,837 posts

Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-24 11:17 | Report Abuse

no means what? you cant accept the fact?lol

Posted by BursaVulture > 2022-06-24 12:14 | Report Abuse

you never factor in the split? lol

flytothemoon

4,837 posts

Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-24 15:15 | Report Abuse

share price tells story la, dai goh

noob2021

40 posts

Posted by noob2021 > 2022-06-24 15:53 | Report Abuse

you think no earning potential, sell.
simple as that
why bother barking here?

Posted by cruger12345 > 2022-06-24 16:55 | Report Abuse

The eps is calculated after bonus issue .

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-24 19:15 | Report Abuse

Flytothemoon is right, share price do tell the real story, i do own yinson and i dont think we should tell people to keep quiet. The worse thing a person can do is to live in their own bubble not knowing what is the truth, like glove supporters in TG telegram group, only listen to one side and dont know what is the truth, those that spoke the truth in the group and immediately kicked out. I3 here got no admin that ban people from saying negative things, so you need to filter out what is good and bad.

Yinson problem is their debt, perpetual debt. If they can reduce their debt, then one day it will fly, i dont understand why they kept on doing share buyback when the money can be used to just clear some of their debt. Well, am not the ceo, since his entire family bought billions of the rights issue, and have skin in the game, they know what is best for the company.

Posted by cruger12345 > 2022-06-24 21:01 | Report Abuse

Danny . If you check the foreign exchange gain this quarter profit is 651 mil which I have no idea what they can do with the excess money

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-24 21:28 | Report Abuse

I think the gains are in ringgits, as in paper profit, unless they plan to bring all of their money back to Malaysia, which I doubt they want to since some of their debts are in USD, therefore if they bring back and ringgit weakens due to fed raising rates, then it is double whammy.

I much prefer they reduce their debt than do SBB

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-24 21:35 | Report Abuse

yea, thanks danny . noob2021 you are no manner but i still respect your feedom of barking, so please mutual respect , thanks. can you guys imagine if yinson no share buy back that huge amount, what would the price now? why ppl keep selling if this is so precious?

Posted by bullmarket1628 > 2022-06-25 07:22 |

Post removed.Why?

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-25 11:42 | Report Abuse

in 10 days from 139.13 to 109 usd, then rebounded abit to 113.19usd , you said spike up like mad , lol

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-25 11:43 | Report Abuse

bullmarket1628 dont know what he is talking, oil price has nothing to do with yinson. oil price does not effect yinson's profitability. oil at USD1000, yinson profit is more or less the same. goodness, do you know what you are investing in?

Peace99

2,264 posts

Posted by Peace99 > 2022-06-25 12:28 | Report Abuse

@DannyArcher, Really no relation? If oil price continue on the high, would you not expect Yinson can get more contracts and seek a higher margin too?

DannyArcher

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Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-25 12:44 | Report Abuse

Peace99, Yinson can raise their fee by 1% if I am not mistaken, that's all. Get more contracts? They are kind of at max capacity already, out of the 4 FPSO they are bidding, they will only take up 1 job, which is probably the Angola FPSO. The CEO already mentioned this in AGM, they will not build more than 3 FPSOs at the same time, they cannot handle it. FPSO Anna Nery is sailing soon, will achieve first oil in 1Q2023, thus they will accept 1 more project. FPSO Maria Quiteria will be ready around end of 4Q2024 and FPSO Atlanta will be completed by Drydocks World in 3Q2023. Until both FPSO are ready, do not expect any new projects from Yinson.

In the AGM, the CEO said if they take up too many projects, it will post a systemic financial risk to the group and as a small team, they cannot handle this many projects. What they will do is nego with the oil company so that they win the bid but will only start construction of the FPSO when an existing FPSO is completed.

So, to your answer, you wont see many new projects, and the margin is fixed with 1% adjustment to inflation.

noob2021

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Posted by noob2021 > 2022-06-25 20:13 | Report Abuse

@dannyarcher you have a totally wrong perception, i am not saying negative comment is not allowed, all constructive comment is very appreciated. problem is some people behave like a desperate housewife, mumbling husband not giving enough pocket money, but content is 0.

flytothemoon

4,837 posts

Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-26 00:23 | Report Abuse

yaya, your content is 100%, me is 0, satisfy? but this forum got any rules to ban ppl talk with content with 0? no right ? then both of us can continue bark with content 0 :D

flytothemoon

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Posted by flytothemoon > 2022-06-26 00:24 | Report Abuse

noob2021, from what you said i can feel your anger and sense that you are more like desperate housewife loss alot of money in this share, gambateh, tomorrow will be better ya :D

noob2021

40 posts

Posted by noob2021 > 2022-06-26 14:02 | Report Abuse

continue talk cock and you can make your 1st million, good luck since you really need it.

Peace99

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Posted by Peace99 > 2022-06-27 12:02 | Report Abuse

@DannyArcher Many thanks for the clear explanation! Very helpful sharing of info from the AGM. I see why now. Perhaps, one way high oil price "benefits" Yinson is just that its customers, having made profits from high oil price, will pay whatever fees due to Yinson in a timely manner?

Brutus

314 posts

Posted by Brutus > 2022-06-27 14:27 | Report Abuse

844,207,538 Rights Shares issued pursuant to the Rights Issue with Warrants will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Tuesday, 28 June 2022.

Still not gotten any refund from my excess Rights Issue application. Tomorrow will be DDay to know whether can get or not.

Peace99

2,264 posts

Posted by Peace99 > 2022-06-27 17:07 | Report Abuse

From my estimate, can get 2-3% of one's bid at best! Refund comes a week or so later.

rl68

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Posted by rl68 > 2022-06-27 17:43 | Report Abuse

@Peace99, Yinson will earn a fixed fees for the services rendered irrespective of the oil price. The agreement bounded contract is on the odd site of Yinson. They are well protected by the agreement.

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-27 18:24 | Report Abuse

Peace99, even with high oil price, Petrobras was fussy with FPSO Maria. The good thing about high oil price is more contracts available, and more likely for oil company to pay for the FPSO, this will greatly benefit yinson as yinson cannot load up on debt anymore and rights issue or PP is already out of the question. FPSO Atlanta was paid by the oil co if I am not mistaken, thus, yinson expect the same for future fpso wins.

the good thing is, whatever the oil price or global economy is, yinson income is pretty much fixed. the down side is you dont expect them to suddenly make huge profit and expect the stock price to fly. not a stock for traders.

simply put it this way, their current profit from their FPSO is about RM77m, when all 3 FPSOs completed and achieved first oil in 2023, 2024, and 2025, yinson profit will most likely 3X, or 2.5X.

all you need to do is wait.

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-27 18:33 | Report Abuse

for those worried about their high RM9 Billion debt, they need to understand this, once all the 3 FPSOs completed and achieve first oil, their equity will rise too, estimated to be about RM10 to RM11 Billion, as oppose to current RM5 billion. So, pray nothing bad happens and 3 years down the road their equity will be higher than their debt, which I doubt so, because they will keep on seeking new FPSO projects, therefore their gearing will be high, but hopefully it will go down to 1:1 eventually.

Posted by HuatHuatHuatLa > 2022-06-27 20:12 | Report Abuse

Hi, guys, any idea what is the warrant conversation price?l have 70,000 right shares, do l get 30,000 warrant shares for free?

DannyArcher

1,258 posts

Posted by DannyArcher > 2022-06-27 20:22 | Report Abuse

HuatHuatHuatLa, nothing is free. it is priced into it.

Posted by Fabien _the efficient capital allocator > 2022-06-27 20:32 | Report Abuse

their capital management strategies is a little bit complicated and not easy to comprehend for a lay person due to their usage of perpetual securities. on paper, the high level of debt will scare you off. unless you care to deep dive and understand their rationale of using these bonds.

i think the main risks investors need to care of is execution risk and counterparty risk. we can't anticipate future risks with much certainty, the only certainty investor can relied on is their track record and reputation over the years. and provided your risk appetite is up for it.

Posted by HuatHuatHuatLa > 2022-06-27 22:08 | Report Abuse

Shit, l bought 20,000 before X @ 2.60, I get 8,000 shares after payment of RM1.41, now l have 28,000 shares.

Based on 1.99, I lose RM7,560. l only get 3÷7x8,000=3,428 warrants.

Warrant price has to hit RM2.20 in order to break even....SURE KAPUT LAH

imvu

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Posted by imvu > 2022-06-28 08:01 | Report Abuse

hijau ? gap up limit up ?

yinson-wa
expired date : 21/6/2025
sector : energy
share issued : 361.802m
market cap : 1.809m
price : 0.005
gearing : 396 ?

imvu

7,888 posts

Posted by imvu > 2022-06-28 09:08 | Report Abuse

yinson-wa -> limit up

expired date : 21/6/2025
sector : energy
share issued : 361.802m
market cap : 1.809m -> 110.349m
price : 0.005 -> 0.305
gearing : 396 -> 6.59
change : +6000%

Peace99

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Posted by Peace99 > 2022-06-28 14:44 | Report Abuse

@rl68 Thanks for your comment on contract....Think you mean "add side" of Yinson, not "odd site"?

Peace99

2,264 posts

Posted by Peace99 > 2022-06-28 14:49 | Report Abuse

@DannyArcher Good analysis. I like company bosses who are ambitious but know how much they can handle. Yes, I will keep my Yinson, wait for 2-3 years, and see the progress on the building of the FPSOs.

kl_guy

1,607 posts

Posted by kl_guy > 2022-06-29 09:16 | Report Abuse

apply excess ..tak jadi. going to hold on what left and wait to collect cheap. don't be surprise yinson might drop to right issue price due to panic seller when market crash.

Brutus

314 posts

Posted by Brutus > 2022-06-29 14:42 | Report Abuse

@kl_guy, same here. No excess rights share. No waiting for refund only.

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